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  • @UKVal um. news to me. What wiki entry had it. There are a couple of them on the plant.
    by lillymunster 2/8/2012 10:24:36 PM

  • Birds Near Fukushima Hit Harder Than at Chernobyl. Bird populations in Japan's Fukushima Prefecture appear to be more whacked by the effects of low-level radiation than expected—based on responses by the same species around Chernobyl after that nuclear power plant disaster. motherjones.com
    by Majj 2/8/2012 10:26:11 PM

  • by dean 2/8/2012 10:26:56 PM

  • This doc has some good info & diagrams & photos I haven't seen before: netfiles.uiuc.edu
    by UKVal 2/8/2012 10:27:02 PM

  • youtube fire at st petersburg
    by dean 2/8/2012 10:27:12 PM

  • @lillymunster en.wikipedia.org
    by UKVal 2/8/2012 10:28:01 PM

  • @lillymunster Re Wiki - sorry - I was trying to check the source - if you scroll up you'll see the article
    by UKVal 2/8/2012 10:29:00 PM

  • @UKVal that is bizarre. The MOX loaded #3 was the first run. But there is the unacounted for Kashiwazaki MOX we have wondered about being there.
    by lillymunster 2/8/2012 10:30:21 PM

  • @lillymunster I wondered whether this was the location of the MOX we have not yet located...
    by UKVal 2/8/2012 10:32:55 PM

  • @lillymunster check out the link I posted below for diagrams & photos. some were new to me...
    by UKVal 2/8/2012 10:33:35 PM

  • @dean Does that look like a basement fire at the nuclear institute in Russia to you?
    by MaryW 2/8/2012 10:34:18 PM

  • @MaryW St. Petersburg is really far from Moscow....
    by lillymunster 2/8/2012 10:34:49 PM

  • Radiation is higher than normal in whole southern coast of Finland
    www.stuk.fi
    by Puc 2/8/2012 10:35:02 PM

  • @Puc there's definitely a leak from somewhere, but source is still unclear
    by UKVal 2/8/2012 10:36:13 PM

  • @UKVal I am not sure how whomever put that in the wiki came to that conclusion. They cite 2 sources for the SFP information. The Japan Times article and a NISA report. The NISA report shows numbers for new fuel in the SFP at each unit (but not central). NISA doesn't note the fuel type. So I don't know if someone had more knowledge or just assumed there would be mox in the common pool?
    by lillymunster 2/8/2012 10:37:21 PM

  • The EU Iodine leak is looking like an almost identical repeat from the last one. The same locales were reporting spikes
    by lillymunster 2/8/2012 10:38:08 PM

  • EURDEP is offline.....
    by lillymunster 2/8/2012 10:43:40 PM

  • Russia's radiation network doesn't look to have any jumps in last 30 days at any stations on the west side.

    BTW all the EU radiation networks our in the library page on our website
    by lillymunster 2/8/2012 10:47:29 PM

  • @lillymunster I tried the Japan Times article but could find on mention of MOX in the common pool
    by UKVal 2/8/2012 10:47:35 PM

  • on =no.. someday my typing will improve
    by UKVal 2/8/2012 10:48:21 PM

  • Finland radiation map www.stuk.fi
    by lillymunster 2/8/2012 10:49:41 PM

  • @lillymunster highest readings at Haapasaari in front of Sankt Petersburg, wind from northeast in the morning
    by Puc 2/8/2012 10:50:23 PM

  • Looking at Finland rad map and putting in long date ranges like Nov or Dec of last year and levels seems consistently that high.
    by lillymunster 2/8/2012 10:51:05 PM

  • @Puc where did you find that info? I can't get a rad station at St. peterberg even though it is on the map
    by lillymunster 2/8/2012 10:51:49 PM

  • This explains the increase saying they found it in late January. Maybe it is too low to show on a graph? They mention finding it in the air filter.
    by lillymunster 2/8/2012 10:54:24 PM

  • Haapasaari is an island near Helsinki in Finland but "only" 0.158µSv / h
    by Puc 2/8/2012 10:56:26 PM

  • @Puc do a graph on Haapasaari for Aug 2011 to today.
    Total radiation detected is on the downturn but they are still or again finding low amounts of 1-131. My guess is they didn't find the EU leak after all or they restarted the reactor in Budapest and it is still leaking. What is frustrating with this is it is too low to register on the meters so we can't isolate it.
    by lillymunster 2/8/2012 10:57:36 PM

  • back for a bit
    by dean 2/8/2012 11:46:56 PM

  • @mary.. it looks more like a transformer yard electrical arcing and then a flash fire ... the huge transformers are typically oil cooled and that was probably the black smoke
    by dean 2/8/2012 11:49:19 PM

  • @dean
    hi
    by elainekirk 2/8/2012 11:57:58 PM

  • Tepco's interim report www.tepco.co.jp provides the most detailed account on the operator's effort to work the IC of Unit 1 in the hours after the quake that I have seen to date on pp. 53. They make it sound as if the decisions to actuate the IC were harmoniously taken and uncontroversial. However, we know that the plant's director Yoshida claimed that he was not informed that an operator had switched the IC off before the tsunami struck.
    by Peter 2/9/2012 12:04:11 AM

  • 9 groups filing federal court injunction against licensing the 2 new reactors at Vogtle (AP 1000) www.ens-newswire.com
    by lillymunster 2/9/2012 12:29:08 AM

  • Russia's atomic lighthouses englishrussia.com
    by lillymunster 2/9/2012 12:38:45 AM

  • I wonder what the total dollar amount for all these abandoned reactor projects is? US only, some almost completely done. link I forgot en.wikipedia.org
    by lillymunster 2/9/2012 12:46:22 AM

  • @lillymunster just read that russian one I think I will have nightmares
    by elainekirk 2/9/2012 12:52:55 AM

  • @elainekirk I wish they would have had a picture of the reactor or identified if one of those structures was part of it. Cool in a sci-fi way. Not cool in an environmental one. I don't think they ever did any decommissioning they literally abandoned them one day.
    by lillymunster 2/9/2012 1:03:16 AM

  • @lillymunster I am gobsmacked
    by elainekirk 2/9/2012 1:05:10 AM

  • More on the lighthouses. From 2002 it sounds like there was a plan to clean them up www.bellona.org

    The US had a few too www.uscg.mil

    Details on the reactor design en.wikipedia.org
    by lillymunster 2/9/2012 1:08:09 AM

  • @lillymunster I feel sick the contamination spread...............
    by elainekirk 2/9/2012 1:10:37 AM

  • I think this is a pic of one of the lighthouse reactors. upload.wikimedia.org

    by lillymunster via Upload.wikimedia.org 2/9/2012 1:15:55 AM

  • by Ian 2/9/2012 1:21:57 AM

  • @lillymunster you are rooting out some horrors
    by elainekirk 2/9/2012 1:22:09 AM

  • back for a bit...hmmmm wonder what's going on
    by dean 2/9/2012 1:28:38 AM

  • @elainekirk I am sure the Soviets never thought they would collapse overnight and that those lighthouses would be abruptly abandoned.

    This is what irks me so much with the NRC's current mindset on spent fuel. They lack creative thinking about the vast possibilities where we could be in 50,100 or 200 years. All of their current plans are dependent on active maintenance of fuel in casks not kept in a repository.
    by lillymunster 2/9/2012 1:29:58 AM

  • @dean Hi, just scaring the bejeezus out of Elaine with Russian atomic lighthouses I stumbled across.
    by lillymunster 2/9/2012 1:30:21 AM

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