After you read all that stuff at allthingsnuclear.org , then ask questions here.
by Ralph Unger 3/28/2011 4:38:38 AM
@Patrick Kelley According to Reuters Edano is implying in happened right after the power went out and hasn't happened since.
by Jojo 3/28/2011 4:39:19 AM
@Patrick Kelley Still present Patrick.....jokes were made due to temporary situation statements...that's about it :-)
by VeenOui 3/28/2011 4:39:33 AM
@jojo Some of the measured, short half-life isotopes are created by the decay of other isotopes, not necessarily a product of fission, but of decay.
by Bev 3/28/2011 4:39:49 AM
@Jojo - They're either lying or inept. I'm going with inept.
by Hank Scorpio 3/28/2011 4:39:52 AM
@JoJo lol, that's pretty ridiculous
by Patrick Kelley 3/28/2011 4:39:58 AM
I tend to think they meant it's not continuing. Not that it's not. Just that's what I think was meant.
by radioguy 3/28/2011 4:39:58 AM
@Pat I am a little bit pregnant? It's BS, a meltdown is a one time event. It can happen again but once it has happened, it has happened.
by Ralph Unger 3/28/2011 4:40:23 AM
"There is not 0% chance of criticality" again? *sigh*
by Patrick Kelley 3/28/2011 4:40:47 AM
Maybe "temporary" is a translation for some other word like "transitory" or a verb tense in Japan that expresses a past action that is no longer continuing. I'm just speculating here.
by Sky 3/28/2011 4:40:59 AM
@Bev - The isotopes Jojo refers to can only be created through fission, not through decay.
by Hank Scorpio 3/28/2011 4:41:03 AM
Not as I have heard from anyone reliable Pat.
by Ralph Unger 3/28/2011 4:41:27 AM
@Lethbridgean I didn't say their children weren't born with six eyes and two tails. :-) Plutonium is incredibly toxic. But I found the results of the Manhattan Project participants interesting to say the least.
by Bev 3/28/2011 4:41:43 AM
@Patrick: There was a Chemistry class this afternoon. I cut, lol. Xenon in No. Korea. Another 6.1 and tsunami warning (later lifted). Edano is attempting to come clean. Everyone expect TEPCO to find the plutonium... I could go on, but I'll spare you... :-)
by Karen Warren 3/28/2011 4:41:54 AM
@Bev - Lol, thank you for that.
by Lethbridgean 3/28/2011 4:42:39 AM
@Hank Ah! Which are we referring to specifically?
by Bev 3/28/2011 4:42:44 AM
@Ralph - I think the term "meltdown" is the source of confusion. A meltdown (the true definition) is a mass of corium breaching all containers and hitting dirt. It's really the media's fault. It should be referred to a core melting, either full or partial.
by Hank Scorpio 3/28/2011 4:42:57 AM
CNNInternatDesk International Desk by BreakingNews The temperature is rising inside the No. 1 nuclear reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant
by VeenOui 3/28/2011 4:43:48 AM
Good point Hank, I consider it to be a loss of control of the core that leads to uncontrolled reactions.
by Ralph Unger 3/28/2011 4:44:08 AM
@Bev - Cl-38. Radioactive chlorine. It has a half-life in the minutes and is only created by fission. It was listed as detected in the water from the turbine room of #1. It was never specifically retracted like #2. I haven't seen any further sample results, so I don't know whether it's real or not.
by Hank Scorpio 3/28/2011 4:44:40 AM
And I think VeenOui's post indicates that fission is the likely culprit in #1's temp rise.
by Hank Scorpio 3/28/2011 4:45:27 AM
Ahem, for those on FaceCrook, on the IAEA site, last post.there is a DR Strangelove tearing it up........juuust for fun www.facebook.com
by VeenOui 3/28/2011 4:47:42 AM
I love good satire.
by Hank Scorpio 3/28/2011 4:48:45 AM
I hate to say this, but I think this will be like the BP disaster, Big interest and then little interest as the disaster unfolds. And that is when the real disaster happens.
by Ralph Unger 3/28/2011 4:52:28 AM
@Ralph Unger Let's hope it doesn't get any worse than it already is.
by Natalie 3/28/2011 4:53:06 AM
@Veen: I think that you should befriend Mike D Ypsidelic and ask him to join us... :)
by Karen Warren 3/28/2011 4:53:20 AM
The webcam looks so ... normal ...
by Sky 3/28/2011 4:53:33 AM
@Ralph - I predicted on the Reuters blog when they closed it that it'd be reopened in 3 days. That was 2.5 days ago. I think I'm damn close to the money.
And don't you think sometimes that Reuters is looking in on this live blog??
by MaryW 3/28/2011 4:57:16 AM
@Hank I can't offer any clarification on the 138Cl measurement. It looks like TEPCO forgot to scrub it when they scrubbed Cs138. And I think that's been the most frustrating thing about this "accident", the omission of data has made it very difficult to quantify harmful effects and sequence of events.
by Bev 3/28/2011 4:57:41 AM
Not officially , I had links to Reuters reporters that made replies to my comments, gone now.
by Ralph Unger 3/28/2011 4:59:10 AM
@Bev - They were two different samples. No I-134 was detected in #1 but was detected in #2 (initially, then gone). No Cl-38 was detected in #2 but was detected in #1. There has been no official change to the #1 sample that I'm aware of, and it would certainly explain the current reheating of #1.
by Hank Scorpio 3/28/2011 4:59:47 AM
@Karen Warren Why me ???......I hate everyone :-O
by VeenOui 3/28/2011 4:59:59 AM
@Mary If they do, it confirms their original position. Without active moderation the ratio of chatter to relevant discussion is high. It took me an hour to figure out what had happened today, the "noise" level was too high. I had to really dig to find the facts.
by Bev 3/28/2011 5:01:15 AM
@Bev "a +"
by Ralph Unger 3/28/2011 5:02:02 AM
And now from our dearest most ever popular Head Honcho Doctor an interlude
by VeenOui 3/28/2011 5:03:11 AM
by VeenOui 3/28/2011 5:03:30 AM
Well, I just did the rounds. Nothing new
by marie rich 3/28/2011 5:07:10 AM
Radioactive water removal underway, fresh seawater pollution found - Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
by Patrick Kelley 3/28/2011 5:12:05 AM
@Hank And increased pressure. I can't remember who it was, but one of the nuclear experts recently said "watch the pressure in #1."
by Bev 3/28/2011 5:12:14 AM
@Bev I'm flattered but I think that was just me :) Here's a pretty good article lewis.armscontrolwonk.com
by marie rich 3/28/2011 5:13:16 AM
Am I being snarky ? Dean is never here when I am. I might not be as charming, but we go to the same sources. He has much more background then I do, so he should be comfortable with me online as well as I am a noob to nuclear questions. My only talent is looking up things on the net.