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I'm not saying it won't have severe heath effects, just that the LD50 figure of about 4.5 Sv refers to WHOLE BODY exposure.

@NiDan Again, how do you have whole body exposure from SOIL? Are you saying radioactive soil is not harmful at all because it's not whole body?

@Jojo Is there a possibility that this has in some sense already happened? What would the chemical signatures be?

Regarding TEPCO's Pu measurements...

Excerpt from:
Toxicological Profile For Plutionium, U.S. Department Of Health And Human Services, November 2010, page 176
www.atsdr.cdc.gov

Average plutonium concentrations in surface soil from fallout range from about 0.01 to 0.1 pCi/g (4x10-4 – 4x10-3 Bq/g) (DOE 2005a). Essentially all of the plutonium found in the surface of the Earth’s crust is a product of human activity occurring over the past 60 years (Ketterer and Szechenyi 2008).

The above cited range (4x10-4 to 4x10-3 Bq/g) are Bq/gram. Converted to Bq/kg the level is 4x10-1 to 4x10. I am not a scientist, but the math seems to suggest that TEPCO numbers reflect "natural" fallout values.

I concur with Hank. I think they knew two weeks ago.

@Pedro Jesus: true; science defies common sense sometimes. I just didn't 'buy' the information I was being fed. Especially about statements like that the measurements in the sea water weren't necessarily from the plant. Argh. I'll keep reading the 'news', see how creatively they word their statements, then come here to try to understand.

@NiDan That is a good explanation.. I have tried to point it out but it is hard to explain to people.

@Hank Scorpio That's what he's talking about.

The mentioning of Roibots.......They had Robots for over a week from Germany and we have NOT heard a word about that either

JoJo - the issue with soil contamination as I understand (again, no expert), is that it means people are likely to ingest contaminants in their food, water, air, etc. This is the real danger, because iodine gets stored in the thyroid, cesium can get stored in bone, etc... Then people are exposed over time, which is really bad.

@George Gibb: How do I attach a still shot I Grabbed/Captured off a video of an injured Fukushima worker that shows a large burn to his left brachium?

@Tenzing Photobucket it (or something) then link it.

@sheilatoulouse I understand your stress. I've been spending a lot of time trying to figure out what is going on but I've found a lot more disinformation in some news channels, particularly CNN and NHK, that I've found discrepancies in TEPCO's reports. So I still trust the official reports more than the news head lines. I check the credibility of the reports comparing different statements from different sources. When they match then you know they're telling the truth - when they don't someone is making some mistake.

TYPE, YES - LOCATION NO. The Sv normalizes SOURCES (i.e. types) of radiation - not all aspects of exposure. It is different to be exposed to a dose of radiation to your hand or to your chest.

@Meretisa The experts I have seen (near unanimously) are siding with your spirituality.

It they had drunk the water, the exposure wouldn't have been just to their feet! That's the whole point!

@NiDan Yes, of course. But when they are talking about surface contamination/soil contamination, they assume the contamination is going to concentrate from your feet up.

@NiDan See I told you they don't understand

@NiDan But you don't have 2-6Sv to their feet, .1 Sv to their eyes, .2 Sv to their liver, etc. It's just 2-6 Sv.

jojo - my comment was about the workers exposed to water in the turbine room - NOT about the soil contamination