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These are the latest monitoring post readings for Fukushima Daini www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 4/16/2011 6:55:15 PM

Video Maps Spread of Radioactivity in Real Time Believe this is different from EPA site.
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by ch 4/16/2011 6:58:36 PM

Don't know if this one was posted yet.... www.foxnews.com Especially on the news on this paragraph... Meanwhile, the newspaper Asahi Shimbun reported, without citing its sources, that a secret plan to dismantle Tokyo Electric Power Co., which runs the radiation-leaking Fukushima plant, was circulating within the government. The proposal calls for putting TEPCO, the world's largest private electricity company, under close government supervision before putting it into bankruptcy and thoroughly restructuring its assets. Most government offices were closed Saturday, and the report could not be immediately confirmed.

Read more: www.foxnews.com
by wtm 4/16/2011 7:04:22 PM

pop quiz.. some of the photos recently have show rusty objects found strewn about,,, and have said. .they could be fuel elements.. so.. qstn.. how did they get all rusty looking?
by dean 4/16/2011 7:04:41 PM

@radioman @Bobby ! @peter Thanks, all. Iam/will be continuing to check out all the good links.
by marie rich 4/16/2011 7:05:12 PM

the seawater they sprayed was already polluted ? @dean
by elainekirk 4/16/2011 7:07:18 PM

idk, but I noticed the same color in the re-sealed cabling pit
by marie rich 4/16/2011 7:07:43 PM

pollutants in seawater remaining after evaporation?
by elainekirk 4/16/2011 7:08:25 PM

well .. I think it's a combination of all that and the temperatures caused some to begin oxidation... in a normal spent fuel pool.. they have rigid chemistry controls.. to keep the water the same as the chemistry in the reactor.. so even tho the fuel elements are old.. they are still good to use in the reactor..
by dean 4/16/2011 7:09:19 PM

List of many different links to monitoring sites. Some I haven't seen before. Don't know how to past to info section here. Thanks blog.alexanderhiggins.com
by ch 4/16/2011 7:09:32 PM

amazing to think that much rust or oxidation has occured in such a short time... I doubt the dry storage cask elements look like that
by dean 4/16/2011 7:10:14 PM

What was the initial seawater pumped through?
by elainekirk 4/16/2011 7:11:40 PM

@dean, perhaps the proximity to the ocean does accelerates oxidation. Cars rust like crazy on the beach.
by Peter Melzer 4/16/2011 7:13:02 PM

YEH Peter... I had thought the oxidation would have been sort of a whitish color on stainless. intersting
by dean 4/16/2011 7:13:59 PM

Marie where are you located? I missed something- where are the dangerous levels?
by inCalifornia 4/16/2011 7:14:18 PM

@Peter Melzer :i think it's the chloride from salty water - HCL.
by Edano 4/16/2011 7:14:28 PM

@Bobby1 I tend to agree. "Look Squirrel!!!" usually points AWAY from the action. Since TEPCO (et al) are masters of the lie of omission, for plausible deniability's sake, looking what is NOT being reported is key.
by radioguy 4/16/2011 7:14:50 PM

I know in ferrous metals that oxidation can make a rust color but now sure about the material for fuel elements..
by dean 4/16/2011 7:15:58 PM

Remember, sea water is not simply salty water. It's far more caustic to metals.
by radioguy 4/16/2011 7:16:04 PM

elaine, the sea water is desalinated and treated to make the chemistry requirements for the vessel
by dean 4/16/2011 7:17:06 PM

I meant the emergency dosing with hoses dean that wasnt purified ..or is it possible the redness was already present?
by elainekirk 4/16/2011 7:18:39 PM

@radioguy The old bait-and-switch. Nobody is talking about Ru-103 and Ce-141 either.
by Bobby1 4/16/2011 7:20:01 PM

elaine.. correct.. there had to have been some burning or near burning in the spent fuel pools which could have discolored and then the yuky seawater came in with all the polutants and make added to the chemistry to turn them rust looking
by dean 4/16/2011 7:21:27 PM

@inCalifornia That's what we were trying to figure out- When/where. idk
by marie rich 4/16/2011 7:22:08 PM

Uranium was also used in photographic chemicals (especially uranium nitrate as a toner),[7] in lamp filaments, to improve the appearance of dentures, and in the leather and wood industries for stains and dyes
by dean 4/16/2011 7:25:43 PM

@marie in the US? I think it is probably we will not know for 10 years and then we will finds pockets of high levels of cancer and then we will say "not safe"
by inCalifornia 4/16/2011 7:26:44 PM

In another vein, I just read the www.bloomberg.com story. I essentially agree with it. However, Geiger counters will always be able to give you a rough idea. Recall the pictures from Japan, on which monitors hold the detector up to people's necks. You would notice, if there was iodine-131 in the thyroid. The GM tube would detect it. I am pondering to build a simple one myself just for the heck of it and found some instructions here: www.radiolocman.com .
by Peter Melzer 4/16/2011 7:27:53 PM

@dean, we had uranyl oxide in the lab for electron microscopy.
by Peter Melzer 4/16/2011 7:29:42 PM

www.zigersnead.com rusty creak in PA. sulfuric acid. www.zigersnead.com
by Edano via Zigersnead 4/16/2011 7:30:16 PM

@Peter Melzer A small increase in a Geiger counter reading would not indicate danger from external sources, but would indicate a higher concentration of radionuclides in the air and soil. It is a proxy for the real problem, at best.
by Bobby1 4/16/2011 7:32:08 PM

english.kyodonews.jp has everybody allready seen this on kyodonews from the 15Th never thought it would be in there. OPINION: How to minimize consequences of the Fukushima catastrophe
by e123 4/16/2011 7:35:20 PM

@Bobby1, we attribute danger to the readings.
by Peter Melzer 4/16/2011 7:47:35 PM

@Max Interesting. It only took PM Kan a little more than a month to make the Fukushima nuclear disaster his top priority.
by James Ward 4/16/2011 7:48:51 PM