Japan Earthquake | Page 733

  • @Peter Melzer A doubling of a Geiger counter reading does not indicate a doubling of the health risk, which is likely to be considerably more.
    by Bobby1 4/16/2011 7:51:38 PM

  • Petition for release of info and transparency airborne radioactivity petitions.criirad.org . Don't know if this will amt to anything but the more this is publicized the better chance of making it happen.
    by ch 4/16/2011 8:01:18 PM

  • @Bobby1 Hi everyone, I'm lurking, just wanted to comment that local farmers around here store all their silage etc. ouside.
    by ia 4/16/2011 8:01:37 PM

  • by Debra Beckham via I1097.photobucket 4/16/2011 8:02:08 PM

  • by Debra Beckham via I1097.photobucket 4/16/2011 8:02:23 PM

  • @ia Hey, do you know if they are stored in piles outside, or is it more spread out?
    by Bobby1 4/16/2011 8:04:46 PM

  • @debra excellent it does happen :)
    by elainekirk 4/16/2011 8:05:01 PM

  • @Bobby1 They roll it up in huge bales and stack them.
    by ia 4/16/2011 8:05:30 PM

  • @elainekirk This was from just a few drops of saltwater :(
    by Debra Beckham 4/16/2011 8:05:38 PM

  • @ia Then you have to worry about the top layer, which will be soaked by rain. Contaminated air would get in, but not much, depending on the density of the bales.
    by Bobby1 4/16/2011 8:06:54 PM

  • @Bobby1 The round bales are best guess 5ft. in diameter, the ends of all of them are exposed.
    by ia 4/16/2011 8:09:18 PM

  • @ia It might be prudent to move the bales into barns, or at least cover them with tarps.
    by Bobby1 4/16/2011 8:10:39 PM

  • @Bobby1 Few barns around anymore, and there are thousands of the bales, they'd need huge hangers of some sort, and the corn/beans they are made from have grown in contaminated ground/water. And the farmers have gone to hoop covered feeding areas that give cover from sun and rain but are open on the sides. Frequently get blown down in wind storms. Most of them just break open the bales on the ground to feed.
    by ia 4/16/2011 8:15:03 PM

  • @ia Sorry, power failure... the corn and beans currently on hand are probably ok, right?
    by Bobby1 4/16/2011 8:37:53 PM

  • @debra @dean wil be back soon point him to pic:)
    by elainekirk 4/16/2011 8:41:39 PM

  • @Bobby1 My guess is everything is in the elevators, they run huge fans thru those things, so that's a problem. Not all the trucks that transport the grains are covered.
    by ia 4/16/2011 8:48:35 PM

  • @ia Rain would be a bigger problem than air at this point.
    by Bobby1 4/16/2011 8:49:19 PM

  • Nothing is in the field around here yet, but we've been getting hit with plumes with torrents of rain the last few days.
    by ia 4/16/2011 8:50:47 PM

  • Nasty storm moving in here, high winds.
    by Bobby1 4/16/2011 8:53:19 PM

  • Just checking, are we on the right board for this topic?
    by ia 4/16/2011 8:53:45 PM

  • @Bobby1 Same here - are you in the northeastern US?
    by pj 4/16/2011 8:53:46 PM

  • Iowa
    by ia 4/16/2011 8:54:02 PM

  • While we're here in the conversation, let me mention this again. There's a MONSTROUS hidden player in the information war: Food Inc. Their entire model is built upon VAST tracts of open ari farms. They can't afford a radiation scare, and they can afford to pay to hide one.
    by radioguy 4/16/2011 8:54:15 PM

  • @pj Maryland
    by Bobby1 4/16/2011 8:54:21 PM

  • @ia Ah, I know some peeps out towards Omaha...and Bobby, I'm further north but same chain of storms.
    by pj 4/16/2011 8:54:50 PM

  • @radioguy Oh yeah, I do wonder about the effects on foods grown for consumption, either by humans or by animals that are then consumed as well.
    by pj 4/16/2011 8:55:55 PM

  • @ia Yes. Garden time. We scrapped ours. all flowers this year. Herbs in pots in an inside window. No room for much, either way.
    by radioguy 4/16/2011 8:59:44 PM

  • I've seen the grass numbers, which are more relevant than the spinach numbers to accumulation. I wouldn't trust anything I grew outside this year.
    by radioguy 4/16/2011 9:00:53 PM

  • 25 years on and the fallout from Chernobyl still affects some farm land near to us in the UK. Here is an article from 1996 with some more details if you are interested.
    by madrat 4/16/2011 9:03:33 PM

  • by madrat 4/16/2011 9:03:44 PM

  • @ia Well you got air, water, and food to worry about. You can take nutritional supplements to defend yourself somewhat.
    by Bobby1 4/16/2011 9:07:04 PM

  • Interesting article. Sea salt and baking soda, best all natural remedy for curing radiation exposure and cancer. presscore.ca
    by JMV 4/16/2011 9:10:29 PM

  • @Bobby1 My ex was allergic to both milk and wheat. Thai was a godsend, not only because I love it, but because it showed me that coco milk subs in so many recipes.
    by radioguy 4/16/2011 9:11:55 PM

  • Dr. Rima Laibow Recommends What to Do About Radiation www.infiniteunknown.net
    by Bobby1 4/16/2011 9:12:51 PM

  • FYI, on Aseptic milk, I notice Organic Valley sells 12 packs of liters. Others too I'm guessing. I know Horizon sells the 8 ouncers.
    by radioguy 4/16/2011 9:27:10 PM

  • @radioguy Grass Numbers... which continent are you talking about. Asia, North America?
    by Mid Valley 4/16/2011 9:27:46 PM

  • I live in the SF Bay area, so I'm looking at the Berkeley numbers. They're not that high, but are 5 times any of the vegetables and are increasing steadily. We had rainfall here, with (comparatively) high Cs-137 measurements and 5 days later milk spiked. Cause and effect. Cows eat a LOT of grass.
    by radioguy 4/16/2011 9:29:59 PM

  • @Debra Beckham Jumping in mid conversation. The rust on the blade in your tank. Photos I was working on yesterday and today. Noticing rust that seems to have been in between the inner and outer roof on the reactor buildings, in the wall/roof connections etc. I found an indoor shot of roof panels rusting over near the walls. One would think a building next to the sea with open water pools on the work deck would have ALL of the steel treated with rust inhibitors.
    by Nancy 4/16/2011 9:51:03 PM

  • Japan orders nuke plants to up readiness: The China Post Updated Sunday, April 17, 2011 10:29 pm TWN, By Mari Yamaguchi , AP - The crisis at the Fukushima plant has forced tens of thousands of people to evacuate to avoid exposure to radiation. On Friday, TEPCO announced plans for 1 million yen (US$12,000) to each evacuated household in an initial round of compensation, which it expects to cost 50 billion yen (US$600 million). As costs mount for the utility, TEPCO President Masataka Shimizu said the company would consider cutting executive salaries as well as a number of its more than 52,000 employees. www.chinapost.com.tw
    by Tenzing 4/16/2011 10:12:36 PM

  • @Tenzing "As costs mount for the utility, TEPCO President Masataka Shimizu said the company would consider cutting executive salaries" . o O (OK, we considered it for a second... let's move along)
    by radioguy 4/16/2011 10:18:11 PM

  • Spike in iodine levels may signal new leak "Hidehiko Nishiyama of the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said the level of radioactive iodine-131 spiked to 6,500 times the legal limit, up from 1,100 times over the limit the day before. Levels of cesium-134 and cesium-137 rose nearly fourfold." search.japantimes.co.jp
    by Ralph Unger edited by elainekirk 4/16/2011 10:26:27 PM

  • www.japanfocus.org has posted an updated paper: "Hubris Punished: Japan as Nuclear State" by Gavan McCormack: At Fukushima the reactor cores may have survived intact, but the management practice of leaving highly toxic and long-lived wastes in ponds beside the actual reactor, has proven a terrible mistake. According to atomic specialist Robert Alvarez, such pools contain radioactivity between five and ten times greater than that of one reactor core, with one pond holding “more cesium-137 than was deposited by all nuclear weapons tests in the Northern Hemisphere combined” and “a major release of cesium-137 from a pool fire could render an area uninhabitable greater than that created by the Chernobyl accident.”
    by Dom 4/16/2011 10:28:18 PM

  • I love the seawater quotes. It is safe because it does not sink and mix with the water. It is safe because it mixes and is diluted with all the seawater,
    by Ralph Unger 4/16/2011 10:40:41 PM

  • Gavan McCormack: "For the country whose scientific and engineering skills are the envy of the world to have been guilty of the disastrous miscalculations and malpractices that have marked the past half-century - including data falsification and fabrication, the duping of safety inspectors, the belittling of risk and the failure to report criticality incidents and emergency shut-downs – and then to have been reduced to desperate attempts with fire hoses and buckets to prevent a catastrophic melt-down in 2011, raises large questions not just for Japan but for humanity. Could the rest of the world, for which the US government holds out the prospect of nuclear renaissance, do better?" www.japanfocus.org
    by Dom 4/16/2011 10:45:12 PM

  • Looks like unfavorable winds for several days going forward, blowing inland.
    by Markfm 4/16/2011 10:46:39 PM

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