Japan Earthquake | Page 797

  • @Nancy K, well if you need anything just send me mail.
    by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 1:31:13 AM

  • Sites pretty much on autopilot now.
    by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 1:32:06 AM

  • Air coolers to be used? www.theatlantic.com
    by Nancy 4/22/2011 1:32:29 AM

  • NRC chair claims Fukushima can't happen here www.wbaltv.com
    by Nancy 4/22/2011 1:33:17 AM

  • @Nancy No, but something else could. They are not seeing that every accident is different. That's what we train for as pilots, to look at the chain.
    by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 1:34:54 AM

  • @Nancy Going to air cooling at any reactor apparently will mean they can't fix the leaks...
    by Rob in SF 4/22/2011 1:36:36 AM

  • @Jim Carver It struck me as over confidence in our system. Over confidence usually precedes something unfortunate
    by Nancy 4/22/2011 1:36:37 AM

  • This accident had a crazy chain. Break one link and it doesn't happen.
    by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 1:36:37 AM

  • @Jim Carver Did you see Sully on Bill Maher? www.youtube.com
    by Rob in SF 4/22/2011 1:38:34 AM

  • @Nancy That's another thing we train to avoid. Flying is as much mental as physical. Attitude and awareness is as much or more important than just knowing how to fly.
    by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 1:38:51 AM

  • @Rob in SF I'll check that out. Good ole Bill huh? be funny
    by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 1:39:56 AM

  • I am trying to figure out, are 5 and 6 on lower land or higher land? I can't remember and don't seem to have a side view of the entire plant.
    by Nancy 4/22/2011 1:40:16 AM

  • 3.4 in No. California, by Eureka
    by Debra Beckham 4/22/2011 1:42:13 AM

  • @Nancy That remids me. I need to get some maps stored.
    by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 1:42:42 AM

  • The few images I can find look like 5 & 6 are up on a berm. If they are why would water be coming up in them?
    by Nancy 4/22/2011 1:46:37 AM

  • by Nancy via Photodharma.net 4/22/2011 1:49:12 AM

  • @Nancy not sure on that. Their map service has some good topos. Pictures can be decieving but it does look like 6 is higher than 5. and both higher than 1-4.
    by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 1:51:13 AM

  • will check it out marie
    by dean 4/22/2011 1:52:22 AM

  • You can see 7-8 constuction site in background. Better place.
    by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 1:52:33 AM

  • @marie/Nancy.. where is the post that marie wanted to put up?
    by dean 4/22/2011 1:54:33 AM

  • Looks innocent in that picture, huh?
    by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 1:54:37 AM

  • @Jim Carver If you happen across a topo map on that let me know what you find out. Today's TEPCO nonsense is that groundwater is filling up 5 & 6. If they are lower it could be all this leaking radioactive runoff. If they are higher either TEPCO is making up stories again or they have one major water problem under all the buildings.
    by Nancy 4/22/2011 1:54:49 AM

  • @dean Have not seen it yet. been waiting.
    by Nancy 4/22/2011 1:55:06 AM

  • Jim.. I have a new scale for comparable to the accident level ... for companies... TEPCO.. IS HANGIN IN AT A 6...
    by dean 4/22/2011 1:55:07 AM

  • ok nancy
    by dean 4/22/2011 1:55:12 AM

  • @Nancy "NRC chair claims Fukushima can't happen here" I sincerely hope he doesn't have to eat those words...

    I hear that early containment dome design imperviousness to jumbo jets is WAY outdated, (ie: Indian Point near NYC), and getting the helm of a decent sized cargo-plane is not out of the realm of possibility.

    I also hear there are AA missiles at Indian Point...
    by Rob in SF 4/22/2011 1:55:41 AM

  • @Nancy Yeah I've got that site. I'll go get some things from there and put it in a new folder, 'maps'
    by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 1:56:27 AM

  • South Texas nuke 3-4 got cancelled :)
    by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 1:58:06 AM

  • @Nancy Do you already have this site? Looks like a ton of useful information cegrp.cga.harvard.edu
    by James Ward 4/22/2011 1:59:10 AM

  • @Jim Carver The story I read on it today mentioned Toshiba having an investor back out. I cross checked it and TEPCO was the investor.
    by Nancy 4/22/2011 1:59:59 AM

  • BTW, click on the link to see the full-size version of the pic Nancy just suggested. It's a striking aerial...
    www.tepco.co.jp

    by Rob in SF via Tepco.co.jp 4/22/2011 2:00:10 AM

  • @Nancy Yeah, they were partners. And going to get funds from the Fed. It's toast..turns out we didn't need it. Wind has taken up the slack in five years. Tell me alternatives don't work--aren't enough!
    by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 2:02:12 AM

  • @James Ward thanks, looks like a good site. I noticed NOAA's map on there is quite different than what I had seen elsewhere for fallout paths.
    by Nancy 4/22/2011 2:02:35 AM

  • Here's the Zhu abstract, FWIW...
    Available online 13 March 2000.

    Soils contaminated with radionuclides, particularly 137Cs and 90Sr, pose a long-term radiation hazard to human health through exposure via the foodchain and other pathways. Remediation of radionuclide-contaminated soils has become increasingly important. Removal of the contaminated surface soil (often up to 40 cm) or immobilization of radionuclides in soils by applying mineral and chemical amendments are physically difficult and not likely cost-effective in practicality. Reducing plant uptake of radionuclides, especially 137CS and 90Sr by competitive cations contained in chemical fertilizers has the general advantage in large scale, low-level contamination incidents on arable land, and has been widely practiced in central and Western Europe after the Chernobyl accident. Phytoextraction of radionuclides by specific plant species from contaminated sites has rapidly stimulated interest among industrialists as well as academics, and is considered to be a promising bio-remediation method. This paper examines the existing remediation approaches and discusses phytoextraction of radionuclides from contaminated soils in detail.
    www.sciencedirect.com
    by Rob in SF 4/22/2011 2:03:35 AM

  • @James Ward Yeah, James, I use that all the time, good link list and that's where I found the geography, geolgy , etc. too.
    by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 2:04:06 AM

  • @Jim Carver We have so much untapped wind potential in South Dakota. Our state and Xcel energy won't let transmission lines be built. On the MN side of the border huge wind farms have gone up in the last 8 years. I noticed that, they said there isn't enough demand.
    by Nancy 4/22/2011 2:04:07 AM

  • So Phytoextraction was proposed by cannabis, eh... Gonna' need to beef up security.
    by Rob in SF 4/22/2011 2:05:20 AM

  • @Nancy Geez, short-sighted toads. They had a power outage here because wind was putting out too much and they weren't ready. They fixed that now.
    by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 2:06:04 AM

  • Press Release (Apr 22,2011)Urgent installation of generation facilities for securing power supply - Installing new facilities at the site of TEPCO, Kawasaki Thermal Power Station in Kanagawa Prefecture - www.tepco.co.jp
    by NHK Listener 4/22/2011 2:06:24 AM

  • @Jim Carver we can't grid tie for solar or wind here because Xcel holds so much sway over our state govt.
    by Nancy 4/22/2011 2:06:59 AM

  • @Nancy That sucks TXU owns everything here. I got $72 back for using wind. i have my own small generator too.
    by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 2:08:21 AM

  • NHK.. I hope they don't goof up bringing in the LNG for running that plant.. I've seen the huge ships up in alaska way off the coast in case they have an accidental explosion...
    by dean 4/22/2011 2:09:20 AM

  • I think Xcel in the nuke business too.
    by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 2:10:06 AM

  • www.foxnews.com artice on LNG tanker explosion affects
    by dean 4/22/2011 2:12:47 AM

  • @Jim Carver Yes they run Monticello, another one in MN and ran Pathfinder down here when it was still a nuke plant.
    by Nancy 4/22/2011 2:12:53 AM

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