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@dean when looking at steam lines they should have "high point vents and low point drains or returns to the condensate system... vents would have to ty into a system... (due to rad) but still needs to follow the same principals.. as regular steam..by fitter 5/3/2011 11:50:14 AM
will do fitter... at the plant I worked out.. red was firewaterby dean 5/3/2011 11:50:28 AM
NEWS ADVISORY: Gov't assumed worst-case scenario at Fukushima nuclear plant 1 day after quake 19:30 3 May english.kyodonews.jpby Edano 5/3/2011 11:50:47 AM- @dean correct ,I think the fire system is "uninsulated red painted" that would be standard FIRE is always red, that i have seen... but they paint the pipe red... the steam lines I have been looking at are insulated with the RED stripe on them...by fitter 5/3/2011 11:52:51 AM
- @dean trying to eliminate the obivious lines... then go from there... Drawing is here...by fitter 5/3/2011 11:53:31 AM
Dying for Tepco www.atimes.comby Bobby1 5/3/2011 11:53:38 AM- red stripe probably means hot...by dean 5/3/2011 11:54:35 AM
- www.pteinc.com fitter check this out... ANSI color coding.. maybe some helpby dean 5/3/2011 11:57:34 AM
- @dean since I been doing all this on the web... I was thinking of buying some of the books i have been looking at but cn't or don't want to print due to volume or cost... REAL brain fart... I forgot all about the free liabiary.... not sure they will have to much though..by fitter 5/3/2011 11:57:41 AM
- @dean good site, has a question box... need to get verified info on some of this... the one plant we do work at has been bought out by international company and is or has change the color system.... its not as simple as people would think... you need to know what "code/spec" has the finial athority.. (so wish i read japense) one is easy "gray is concrete" my gray pencil is very short these days!!!by fitter 5/3/2011 12:04:23 PM
Morning all! So much info so early in the morning. :-) Good news that info is finally coming out. The TBS cam seemed blurry, maybe just due to time of day or is it always that bad?by Nancy 5/3/2011 12:05:01 PM- true.. fitterby dean 5/3/2011 12:05:10 PM
- gm Nancy welcome aboard .. coffee over there >>>> on snack tableby dean 5/3/2011 12:05:24 PM
@Nancy it was clear this arvo! its just cause its dark.by Angie 5/3/2011 12:06:49 PM- @dean at your plant have you hear or seen the vendor" graylock" they make very high pressure/seal seals (mating gaskets) pretty sure that's what on the reactor head but they have a wide selections of them... e-mailed a request to them but due to National Securoty and Company rights sought they will respondby fitter 5/3/2011 12:07:01 PM
any one seen this photo?
by dean 5/3/2011 12:07:07 PM
@Dean, I grabbed a few images of 4 per the conversation last night. www.houseoffoust.com www.houseoffoust.com
by Nancy via Houseoffoust 5/3/2011 12:07:16 PM
@Dean, I grabbed a few images of 4 per the conversation last night. www.houseoffoust.com www.houseoffoust.com
by Nancy via Houseoffoust 5/3/2011 12:07:16 PM- Tsuruga reactor may be shut down af.reuters.comby Bobby1 5/3/2011 12:07:34 PM
- 1 - fuel rods from one assembly?
2 - wider water tube from center of assembly?
3 - bottom of assembly?
4 - racks from spent-fuel pool?
5 - sleeve of assembly?
6 - sleeve of assembly, burst open, oxidized on outer side?
7 - water in/out pipes from spen-fuel pool?
Item 7 seems to match a model of the SPF shown on NHK. Items 6 of course are more likely to be metal roof panels (but where from?)by dean 5/3/2011 12:07:51 PM - @dean not seen that numbered photo. Is there a big version and a key for it?by Nancy 5/3/2011 12:07:54 PM
- @dean do you have a link for itby fitter 5/3/2011 12:08:21 PM
- fitter.. yes I have seen graylocks for the hight pressure.... typically the top head flange from what I"ve seen where I worked uses a double --ring standard flange.. with studs and nuts..by dean 5/3/2011 12:09:24 PM
by dean via Spiegel.de 5/3/2011 12:10:04 PM- check that out..by dean 5/3/2011 12:10:07 PM
- @dean double ring round metal gasketsby fitter 5/3/2011 12:10:15 PM
- www.physicsforums.com link for the physics forum.. is where I found thatby dean 5/3/2011 12:10:41 PM
- no fitter.. just the o-rings no metal gaskets on the reactor vesselby dean 5/3/2011 12:11:08 PM
- @dean if I understand you you are saying the o-rings ARE not a Metal 0-ring... "some form of rubber/sythentic.. would that be correct..by fitter 5/3/2011 12:13:23 PM
- @Dean, something I noticed looking at that back/north wall shot of #4. There is a clear blast hole down lower and then the black marks or goo people were talking about. Could be coincidence that a hole blew out there and that is also the corner of the worst damage on 3. Makes me wonder what equipment was in that corner below the work deck that might have added to the destruction.by Nancy 5/3/2011 12:13:38 PM
- @dean any ideal what systems are using the graylocks... they can be easier to identifiy in pics, they have dictinct housing connectings...by fitter 5/3/2011 12:14:30 PM
- I will try to grab close ups of those numbered items and post them today.by Nancy 5/3/2011 12:15:06 PM
- @Nancy I have been marking up a drawing on the equipment... can you give me a better ideal what floor/section (ie two panels in etc.. I'll check the drawing)by fitter 5/3/2011 12:15:58 PM
- fitter.. yep.. just a big ole rubber o-ring gasketby dean 5/3/2011 12:16:47 PM
- 2 of themby dean 5/3/2011 12:16:51 PM
- good point Nancy, fitter may be able to shed alittle light on that with her markups on the drawings... it's like some collection point perhaps from water chemistry area for the SFP or maybe fresh irradiated fuel as posed to old fuelby dean 5/3/2011 12:18:55 PM
- @fitter somewhere around that air inlet and filter sludge receiver. I can't tell on the other view but it would be the seaside corner about that level.by Nancy 5/3/2011 12:20:26 PM
- nancy.. maybe you could go to the physics forum and link with jorge stolfi who posted the photo... I will have to register up with physics forum to gain access ..by dean 5/3/2011 12:20:42 PM
- @dean I will see if I can get in contact with Stolfi today.by Nancy 5/3/2011 12:21:14 PM
- @dean @nancy the ground elev.. is 10000... the slude reciver starts at 187000 on the north side, according to some info i was reading yesterday (not confirmed) the sludge residuale may be "able to produce hydrogen gas along with nitous oxide, and needs to be vented... but they also show it as a flat tank????by fitter 5/3/2011 12:23:11 PM
- @fitter Hmm could that sludge make a black goo after it explodes?by Nancy 5/3/2011 12:24:09 PM
- @Nancy @dean I think I have figured (about) were the cut section on the "looking west" starts... But need a second person to "think and correct my assumptions"by fitter 5/3/2011 12:24:56 PM
- hey.. "m going to dress and slip off to the coffee shop and come back on line for a nice couple hours...by dean 5/3/2011 12:25:12 PM
- @Nancy Yes most sludege i have seen is "black" and "nastey" were have to do alot of saferty work and "costly clothing" just to send our guys into the pits of "non-nuke" sludge... the guys really do not like these projects.. they are Nastyby fitter 5/3/2011 12:27:11 PM
- @Nancy : stolfi has not made any plots since april 27.by Edano 5/3/2011 12:27:51 PM
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