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  • @edano ooops the mod gremlin got you again!!
    I believe the many tweeters from Japan who are saying the temp has exceeded 300 and has been for at least 24hrs
    by elainekirk 5/9/2011 10:54:55 AM

  • @ Dean - good morning! Can you make any sense of these reactor #3 temperatures? www.tepco.co.jp
    by hudebnik 5/9/2011 10:56:22 AM

  • @dean sry nearly buried yours with mod release will copy it here -
    www.arirang.co.kr GOOD MORNING.. not sure if this helps but there is a broadcast on temps
    by elainekirk 5/9/2011 10:56:32 AM

  • @Edano well no bigish ones lol just little ones www.jma.go.jp
    by Angie 5/9/2011 10:58:13 AM

  • meti have just done a run of tweets promoting this release of 3day old info www.nisa.meti.go.jp
    by elainekirk 5/9/2011 10:58:55 AM

  • @bo Late, but, as enviornmental controls get more stringent and depth increases, cost increases. Not a shortage really, just an increase in price of U.
    by RBeaner 5/9/2011 10:59:19 AM

  • @Ralph Unger Yes they made the decision to employ LN2, and doug a tunnel and excavated a space under the RV, but then changed their mind and filled with concrete instead. Will link for you later :)
    by RBeaner 5/9/2011 11:01:37 AM

  • hudebnk about all I can see of concern are the increasing temperatures on the RPV's
    by dean 5/9/2011 11:02:09 AM

  • can't read the headings tho
    by dean 5/9/2011 11:02:19 AM

  • @RBeaner ty
    by bo 5/9/2011 11:03:18 AM

  • @bo may be able to get them translated later. Any Japanese speakers on board at the moment?
    by hudebnik 5/9/2011 11:03:19 AM

  • I'm back now, and can get them translated, but not until tomorrow. I'm at home now, an English speaking zone
    by bo 5/9/2011 11:03:51 AM

  • @Ralph Unger Sorry, I am only able to visit for short times, Where did you see 700 mSv (per hour)? regarding your 2/3 of 1 Sv post.
    by RBeaner 5/9/2011 11:04:12 AM

  • @RBeaner I believe Ralph has gone to bed. He said good night about 40 minutes ago.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/9/2011 11:06:19 AM

  • @hudebnik I agree, TEPCO is NOT confused as to what a limit per yr or shift is, it is probably on a case by case pr.
    by RBeaner 5/9/2011 11:06:49 AM

  • @ RBeaner - @Ralph may have gone but the readings are on Kyodo Fukushima's No. 1 reactor building radiation up to 700 millisieverts
    TOKYO, May 9, Kyodo

    The operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant found that the radiation level of the building housing the troubled No. 1 reactor stood at up to 700 millisieverts per hour, the government's nuclear agency said Monday, citing the need for radiation shielding to proceed with work to bring an end to the nuclear crisis.


    The radiation level, which was around 10 millisieverts per hour at its lowest, was measured as Tokyo Electric Power Co. workers and agency officials entered into the No. 1 reactor building early Monday as part of preparations to start full-scale work to create a system to stably cool the damaged nuclear fuel inside.

    ''An area with a double-digit millisievert level, let alone three-digit figures, is quite tough as a working environment. So we have to do the work by using some shielding,'' Hidehiko Nishiyama, a spokesman for the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, told a press conference.
    english.kyodonews.jp
    by hudebnik 5/9/2011 11:07:02 AM

  • @bo - TY!
    by hudebnik 5/9/2011 11:07:44 AM

  • @Ralph Unger on that 648 mSv, you assume 24 hours a day for 60 days, this is bogus. They slept, early on, in a relatively shielded concrete room. These level are where some work is going on. They have probably been exposed to them at most 3-4 hrs per day. Rad levels vary greatly within even short distances, BB ~9:30.
    by RBeaner 5/9/2011 11:10:59 AM

  • If you want the headers translated, please post the specific links, as I have been away and did not track which docs were being discussed.
    by bo 5/9/2011 11:13:18 AM

  • by Pedro Jesus 5/9/2011 11:19:51 AM

  • @bo - the overall Japanese source page is here www.tepco.co.jp and the reactor-specific data appears about 2/3 the way down, below the box with the apology in it. There are separate PDFs for each reactor temps and water pressures. The page needs to be refreshed regularly as new updated PDFs are posted every few hours.
    by hudebnik 5/9/2011 11:23:57 AM

  • So is the same as @Pedro Jesus posted, or it is a specific link on the page that @hudebnik posted?
    by bo 5/9/2011 11:27:16 AM

  • @bo It suffices to translate one data page headings. The others should have the same headings.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/9/2011 11:29:07 AM

  • @Pedro Jesus got it. So the link you posted should suffice, no?
    by bo 5/9/2011 11:30:04 AM

  • meti units conditions temps 8th may
    www.nisa.meti.go.jp
    by elainekirk 5/9/2011 11:34:37 AM

  • @bo - the link @Pedro posted should cover all the different reactor temps. If your contact has time then a similar job on the pressures and internal radiation readings for instance www.tepco.co.jp could be useful. TY.
    by hudebnik 5/9/2011 11:41:52 AM

  • @all, roger. Got both docs and will be on it in the Nihon morning.
    by bo 5/9/2011 11:42:38 AM

  • @bo Actually, please translate both the pressure and temperature page's headings so there is no mistake. Thanks.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/9/2011 11:48:49 AM

  • @hudebnik Radiation readings are available on the English version. No need translating that one.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/9/2011 11:49:27 AM

  • @Pedro Jesus, to be sure, is that these two:pdfs\032_1F3_05091200.pdf ; www.tepco.co.jp
    by bo 5/9/2011 11:51:43 AM

  • by bo 5/9/2011 11:52:03 AM

  • @bo - those will do nicely thanks.
    by hudebnik 5/9/2011 11:56:25 AM

  • OK, good to go, will have them tomorrow
    by bo 5/9/2011 11:56:59 AM

  • Sleep well!
    by hudebnik 5/9/2011 11:58:17 AM

  • @hudebnik actually still sticking around for a bit, but good to go on the docs
    by bo 5/9/2011 12:01:25 PM

  • @bo well I hope they don't give you nightmares!
    by hudebnik 5/9/2011 12:03:52 PM

  • @bo Yes, the first is temperatures and the second pressures. Thanks again.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/9/2011 12:03:55 PM

  • @all no problem. My Japanese colleagues are eager to help.
    by bo 5/9/2011 12:04:32 PM

  • @bo, someone sent me a study on radiation uptake in crops. It seems to span from the 50's to about 2005 and mentions chernobyl also. I haven't read the entire translation. If that is something you might have interest in I can save a formatted copy to share it.
    by Nancy 5/9/2011 12:21:05 PM

  • @Nancy absolutely, thanks. You can also send to my email if you like.
    by bo 5/9/2011 12:22:02 PM

  • @bo will do.
    @elainekirk can you post METI's twitter account so I can follow it?
    Here's one to follow on twitter, posts fuku related papers from time to time hiroshisukagawa
    by Nancy 5/9/2011 12:24:06 PM

  • I posted this earlier but wanted to repost it when more people were on. It is an animation that a friend of mine made about nuclear testing that is amazing. It is an example of how art can communicate very complex information very easily. I have looked at data on the history of nuclear testing forever, but when I saw this animation I "got it" in a way I never had before. www.youtube.com
    by bo 5/9/2011 12:26:20 PM

  • good morning to al
    by dean 5/9/2011 12:27:48 PM

  • Hello Nancy: I'm very interested in a formatted copy of the study on radiation uptake in crops you mentioned in your @bo post. You can send in to me via email iwork44@mac.ocm or post a link here, which ever works for you, thanks and I do hope you have a lovely day :)
    by Tenzing 5/9/2011 12:29:23 PM

  • Morning dean
    by bo 5/9/2011 12:30:53 PM

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