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@momof3 I don't know if I have seen it much worse but that is a pretty good steam cloud for 4. 3 seems to be at it again. I would say it is 2 notches below what it did at the worst point on Saturday. We probably should keep an eye on it, this is how Sat. started off.by Nancy 5/11/2011 5:10:10 PM
yes they do es and there is a designated diesel generator separate from the 2 main ones called a STATION BLACKOUT DIESEL GENERATORby dean 5/11/2011 5:10:34 PM
@momo3 there does seem to be a more consistant stream'o'steam todayby elainekirk 5/11/2011 5:10:44 PM
@Edano Oops... let me check where they areby Pedro Jesus 5/11/2011 5:11:43 PM- THE problem in USA is.. assumptions of restoring power within some time frame.. or getting other diesel generators hooked up etc.. and .. remember .. all those running diesel generators have to have utility water to cool the jacket water and lube oil heat exchangers.. all of which fukushima didn't haveby dean 5/11/2011 5:11:50 PM
@elainekirk @Nancy-I was thinking that was the case. I've popped in and out to look at their output before but what is going on now seems pretty substantial. Will be watching.by momof3 5/11/2011 5:12:03 PM- Tornado or flood would never slow that down? :-)by Ralph Unger 5/11/2011 5:12:28 PM
- elaine did you come to check us out whilst you sip your coffeeby dean 5/11/2011 5:12:33 PM
- Or a hurricane?by Ralph Unger 5/11/2011 5:13:03 PM
- @elainekirk They should be venting #1 to prepare work inside the building. Could that be the source of that steam?by Pedro Jesus 5/11/2011 5:13:04 PM
- right Ralph..by dean 5/11/2011 5:13:33 PM
- The gennies have a water jacket just like your car, but if they are underwater?by Ralph Unger 5/11/2011 5:14:01 PM
- if the NPP near phoenix arizona had a 4 foot tsnunami it would be toast..by dean 5/11/2011 5:14:10 PM
- right Ralph and the super charge air admin system.. no power no airby dean 5/11/2011 5:14:36 PM
- I think they started or the diesels started on their own.. and ran to destruct..by dean 5/11/2011 5:14:55 PM
@es @Pedro Jesus 66 km SW Murcia (pop 406,807 ; local time 18:47:26.8 2011-05-11)
6 km SW Lorca (pop 86,119 ; local time 18:47:26.8 2011-05-11)by Edano 5/11/2011 5:15:02 PM- they had no cooling which would over heat quicklyby dean 5/11/2011 5:15:32 PM
- They should be built to work fine even after 48 hours without power, no US plants can do that, but the new designs can do that.by Ralph Unger 5/11/2011 5:15:37 PM
- right Ralph.. and the GEN IV reactors are passively designed to be walk away reactors and cool them selves with no human intervention..by dean 5/11/2011 5:16:22 PM
- I am pro nuke, but not with cold war tech.by Ralph Unger 5/11/2011 5:16:30 PM
- HTR-10 and HTR-PM www.world-nuclear.orgby Ralph Unger 5/11/2011 5:17:23 PM
- Lorca has called the state of emergency in the city following some Spanish sources.by Edano 5/11/2011 5:17:29 PM
- @Edano Cofrentes Nuclear Power Plant is not so far away from Cartagena. That is bad news. I hope it's all OK. I'll keep an eye on Portuguese news and keep you all
posted.by Pedro Jesus 5/11/2011 5:18:45 PM 
@Edano Coo. Thanks. Felt nothing here - c. 200kms away.by es 5/11/2011 5:19:02 PM- ty Pedroby dean 5/11/2011 5:19:10 PM
- UPDATE 17:12 UTC : We are trying to get some more news close to the epicenter, but we can predict that this last shock will probably be very damaging. Too soon to predict any injuries. earthquake-report.comby Edano 5/11/2011 5:19:11 PM
@Edano 1km deep. The 5.3 is misleading.by radioguy 5/11/2011 5:19:14 PM- Cofrentes NPP has a BWR reactor.by Pedro Jesus 5/11/2011 5:19:58 PM
- @Pedro Jesus : mark 1 ? ;)by Edano 5/11/2011 5:20:47 PM
- is time I must leave for awhile.. ty allby dean 5/11/2011 5:24:23 PM
- @dean, Gee thanks, I live in Phoenix. Palo Verde is the "bastard" stepchild in the nuclear industry as it runs totally different reactor designs than everybody else.by wtm 5/11/2011 5:24:47 PM
- The big quake was supposed to be in Rome. news.blogs.cnn.comby Ralph Unger 5/11/2011 5:26:09 PM
- cofrentes is about 200 km from epicenter.by Edano 5/11/2011 5:26:38 PM
- See where #3 is steaming a lot from the reactor area. Makes you wonder....if they are injecting the water directly into the RPV, then how is steam escaping out the top...unless it is breached or is leaking from the RPV seals ???by wtm 5/11/2011 5:27:22 PM
- @Edano Doesn't specify. It's a BWR comissioned in 1985. They started construction of Cofrentes NPP in 1975. "624 fuel assemblies of the 8x8 design with 62 fuel rods and 2 water rods". It stands at 185km from Cartagena.by Pedro Jesus 5/11/2011 5:27:44 PM
@ralph....he missed the big quake by two days last time, maybe this time he missed it by 2 countriesby wrshpr 5/11/2011 5:28:04 PM- "commissioned"by Pedro Jesus 5/11/2011 5:28:05 PM
- 5.3? that would not even move my wine glass much. Did I miss something?by Ralph Unger 5/11/2011 5:28:06 PM
- @Ralph Unger : do you know the magnitude of the haiti quake ?by Edano 5/11/2011 5:28:36 PM
- Do you know that it is a logarithmic scale? 6 is ten times larger then a 5?by Ralph Unger 5/11/2011 5:29:24 PM
- @nancy@dean are you still looking for plant parametersby elainekirk 5/11/2011 5:30:02 PM
- @elainekirk for th 11th yesby Nancy 5/11/2011 5:31:10 PM
- UPDATE 17:24 UTC : People in Lorca and in the surrounding villages are on the streets and are not willing to go inside again as they fear additional aftershocks.
UPDATE 17:22 UTC : The second earthquake (aftershock) shook the area approx. 2 hours after the first one. Also the second shock was centered near Lorca, a city with at least 80,000 people. earthquake-report.comby Edano 5/11/2011 5:31:15 PM - LOL I was in a 6 and I thought it was a pothole, I was in my car. The 6.5 that is was in later was a lot bigger deal.by Ralph Unger 5/11/2011 5:32:51 PM
- But only because it lasted for a few minutes. I watched telephone poies dance across the valley. I was in LA.by Ralph Unger 5/11/2011 5:34:24 PM
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