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  • Agreed. I'm just trawling for news and delivering what I can find. Which is, as we all know, sparse.
    by Panserbjorne9 5/13/2011 1:32:06 AM

  • @Angela5pointo I've heard that too and I'll usually say that if we let this go and forget, it will continue and happen again. Funny thing how history has a way of repeating itself...especially when we deny it!
    by LM 5/13/2011 1:32:40 AM

  • @radioguy LOL! well, a comet DID hit the sun... Close enough
    by Panserbjorne9 5/13/2011 1:32:50 AM

  • @Veenie So true!
    by LM 5/13/2011 1:32:53 AM

  • @Veenie and don't think that the industry and government folks don't know that. Keep the current story on the down low, and the eventual news that comes out will have no traction. Once Libya was invaded, this story became the province of folks like us and folks who are exposed.
    by bo 5/13/2011 1:33:06 AM

  • @RadioGuy But some celeb says something insufferable it will be everywhere.
    by lillymunster 5/13/2011 1:33:25 AM

  • You watch. If the animal thing starts to get even an iota of traction, it will disappear from the news in a day.
    by RadioGuy 5/13/2011 1:34:12 AM

  • Anderson Cooper? You ask why he fell down the toilet. Americans in general are anti gay. Not a big deal usually, but who you going to watch. A blonde bombshell (fox) or a brit or gay(cnn).
    by RBeaner 5/13/2011 1:34:36 AM

  • Can't have people thinking of where they eat on the food chain.
    by RadioGuy 5/13/2011 1:34:43 AM

  • @bo NewsFlash....No one gives a ''' about Lybia or anything else down there anymore, trust me, i covered since Tunesia........and it all came to an end with OBL kill.....right now, it's Ashton Kutcher taking on Two and a half Men spot...
    by Veenie 5/13/2011 1:35:15 AM

  • @nancy looking #4 it has 6 panels along each side but on side you can see sea through four of the panel spaces so where is the sfp it isnt right in back corner is it?
    by elainekirk 5/13/2011 1:36:16 AM

  • @elainekirk two rows of panels horizontal
    before you get down to the work floor
    by lillymunster 5/13/2011 1:38:35 AM

  • @LM I live in the US and I think people I know think it's insane to think that Japan can affect us....even if I have tons of thinks to show them. I think people choose to be uninformed. Like when I was at my last job, everyone thought I was this "bra burning" female, because I was encouraging people to vote. I would explain the importance of voicing your opinions. I wasn't promoting one party over the other and the president of the company (who I was good friends with through working there) thought it was funny and would tell all of his "higher up" friends that I was this activist, which I am far from...
    by Angela5pointo 5/13/2011 1:40:00 AM

  • Kyodo flash is saying that water inside #1 is draining more than assumed.
    by LM 5/13/2011 1:40:22 AM

  • ah thanky @angie somehow that eases my panic but I cant think why
    by elainekirk 5/13/2011 1:40:48 AM

  • Reuters! How you've betrayed us! What a ridiculous title for this article, making it as interesting and critical as sliced bread. Fukushima reactor has a hole, leading to leakage. www.reuters.com
    by Panserbjorne9 5/13/2011 1:41:46 AM

  • Ok I am a little behind in the news have they said where this water is leaking to??
    by Angie 5/13/2011 1:41:54 AM

  • @LM operative word in that Kyoto headline: assumed.
    by bo 5/13/2011 1:43:46 AM

  • @lm cor you cant half tell those greenpease ocean stats are about to hit the internet 'lets pre empt them tell the world we have found the leak and it is fixed and hey presto we can declare greenpeace stats outdated'
    by elainekirk 5/13/2011 1:43:52 AM

  • @Angie They think it's leaking into the containment vessel,reactor building and turbine building. In other words...everywhere.
    by LM 5/13/2011 1:43:57 AM

  • @Angela5pointo perceptions,... they are still saying partial meltdown
    by RBeaner 5/13/2011 1:44:20 AM

  • @Angie um... not up. ;)

    Sorry. They were asked about the basement radiation levels and said since they have no access to the basement there's no way to deny it might have melted through and be leaking there. (That's a paraphrase of to separate sentences in the statement.)
    by RadioGuy 5/13/2011 1:44:52 AM

  • I really try and understand why everything has gone on as long as it has, however still don't ........
    by Angela5pointo 5/13/2011 1:45:40 AM

  • @angela5pointo I'm originally from New York and so I think most people here in Southern California just assume all right coasters are too opinionated. LOL.
    by LM 5/13/2011 1:47:00 AM

  • @Panserbjorne9 It's all so weak. If I hadn't seen these people write headlines that make sewage reports sound like gold you can't miss reading, they are working overtime to rob every bit of drama from this. You can't downsell a story so badly by accident.
    by RadioGuy 5/13/2011 1:47:01 AM

  • TEPCO drowning in dealing with tons of radioactive water

    2011/05/13

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    As if Tokyo Electric Power Co., the embattled operator of the crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, didn't have enough problems, another daunting task is what to do with an estimated 90,000 tons of radioactive water.

    This vast amount remains from the pumping of water to cool reactors after the plant's regular cooling systems were disabled in the March 11 Great East Japan Earthquake and seawater from the tsunami.

    The problem is growing by the day, as the volume of contaminated water keeps increasing.

    TEPCO needs to treat and recycle contaminated water escaping from the facilities to maintain the cooling of the reactors without increasing the volume of contaminated water.

    It signed a deal with France's Areva SA, a nuclear engineering company, to start treating the radioactive water in June. But Areva's equipment is capable of treating only 1,200 tons a day, and it is not clear if it can handle a total of 90,000 tons.

    In dealing with this volume of contaminated water, the plant's No. 2 reactor presents the most serious challenge of its four stricken reactors.

    Workers discovered on April 2 that highly radioactive water gushed into the sea through cracks close to a pit near an intake of the No. 2 reactor. Technicians spent a total of 93 hours before successfully plugging the leaks on April 6.

    The contaminated water came from buildings housing the No. 2 reactor and turbine as well as a trench.

    TEPCO is transferring the contaminated water to a disposal-and-treatment facility in the compound to prevent further overflow.

    The total amount of contaminated water at the No. 2 reactor was estimated at 25,000 tons before the transfer work got under way, equivalent to about 400,000 terabecquerels of radioactivity.

    When Japan's nuclear industry regulator, the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA), upgraded the severity level of the accident at the plant to a maximum 7 on the International Nuclear and Radiological Event Scale (INES) on April 12, it cited an estimate for the radiation emitted into the atmosphere at 370,000 terabecquerels as the basis for the raise.

    That means that radioactive water at the No. 2 reactor alone suffices to be classified as a level-7 accident.

    In another ongoing problem, TEPCO is trying to deal with about 300,000 tons of contaminated water that has already leaked into the sea and has been contained inside the port.

    Following the accident, some of the contaminated water found its way into the ocean. Other amounts, which were less radioactive, were discharged by TEPCO as it needed to free up storage space to hold more highly toxic water.

    The utility installed plastic curtain-like partitions, called silt fences, that hang from floats to near the sea bottom at six locations to help stop radioactive water from spreading farther in the ocean.

    But NISA said on May 11 that it was highly likely that almost all the radioactivity in the water had escaped into the sea by the time the utility installed the fences April 11-14.

    Sources within NISA said that installing the fences--five to eight days after the leak was stopped--came too late.

    The radioactivity level in the water contained by the fences is 100 terabecquerels at most, according to NISA calculations.

    TEPCO estimated that a total of 520 tons of contaminated water leaked into the sea containing 4,700 terabecquerels of radioactivity.

    That is 20,000 times the annual radiation level permitted by the government for release.

    Still, the utility plans to install filtration equipment to remove radioactive substances with the usage of zeolite, a mineral, this month.

    However, it is not known how effective the filter is and how much capacity the equipment has.

    * * *

    MARCH 12: Timing on decision to use seawater at Fukushima under scrutiny

    In the hours after the March 11 Great East Japan Earthquake, the most important challenge at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant was to cool down the fuel rods in the reactor pressure vessels to prevent the reactor cores from being damaged.

    This required a continued and massive injection of water. At the No. 1 reactor, where the situation was tense on March 12, the decision was made to pump in seawater. In the Upper House of the Diet, deliberations are focused on whether that decision came too late.

    At the No. 1 reactor, at around 2:50 p.m., all the available fresh water had been pumped into the reactor pressure vessel to cool down the reactor core.

    At that stage, according to Tokyo Electric Power Co., the plant operator, it hastily began preparing to switch to seawater.

    "I instructed them to begin injecting seawater at 2:50 p.m. when the injection of fresh water stopped," TEPCO President Masataka Shimizu told the budget committee of the Upper House as an unsworn witness.

    But before the pumping of seawater could begin, a hydrogen explosion occurred at the No. 1 reactor at 3:36 p.m.

    Industry minister Banri Kaieda told the Upper House Budget Committee that he, too, had been talking about pumping in seawater.

    "I spoke about it continually (after all the fresh water had been used) and I issued multiple instructions," he said.

    At around 6 p.m., about two and a half hours after the explosion, Kaieda ordered TEPCO, by way of the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, to inject seawater into the No. 1 reactor. However, problems at the facility resulting from the explosion delayed the immediate startup of pumping, which did not begin until 7:04 p.m.

    First, a 20-minute pumping test was conducted, Kaieda said. At 8:05 p.m., the prime minister issued a new order to pump in seawater and operations resumed at 8:20 p.m, after being interrupted for about one hour.

    Keiji Miyazaki, professor emeritus of nuclear reactor engineering at Osaka University, said the interruption may not have had much effect on the situation.

    "Water would have had to be injected proactively and uninterruptedly to prevent the fuel rods from being damaged," he said.

    "If fresh water is unavailable, you have to use seawater. Still, given that a hydrogen explosion had already occurred, the interruption of about an hour may not have had a large impact on what happened afterward."

    * * *

    APRIL 4: Contaminated water discharge into sea angered other countries

    When Tokyo Electric Power Co. discharged about 10,000 tons of low-level radioactive water from its Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant into the sea in early April, it made waves with its neighbors across the Sea of Japan.

    The release, from April 4-10, was deemed necessary when TEPCO had to make room for highly radioactive water transferred to an on-site wastewater treatment plant and had the blessing of the Japanese government.

    After the leak of highly radioactive water from the damaged pit at the No. 2 reactor was found April 2, Goshi Hosono, a special adviser to Prime Minister Naoto Kan-- who had opposed the water release at the end of March--reported to Kan on the handling of contaminated water at the plant. The Kan government then decided to allow the release of the water into the sea, saying it contained low levels of radiation.

    The planned release, however, was not fully conveyed to other countries.

    At 3:30 p.m. on April 4, TEPCO announced its plan to discharge the water into the sea, of which the Foreign Ministry was immediately notified. Thirty minutes later, the ministry held a regular briefing for all embassies in Japan, which diplomatic officials from 51 countries attended, regarding updates on the Great East Japan Earthquake.

    The Foreign Ministry, in a brief mention, informed these attendees of TEPCO's planned release. However, officials from neighboring countries across the Sea of Japan--China, South Korea and Russia--were not in attendance.

    The briefing ended around 6 p.m. Shortly afterward, TEPCO notified the Foreign Ministry of its renewed plan for the water release later that day. The ministry added to a report on the meeting a statement that the release of low-level radioactive water into the sea would begin that night.

    At 7:03 p.m., the release into the sea began. At 7:05 p.m., the Foreign Ministry sent the report to all embassies in Japan by fax and e-mail.

    It wasn't until April 6 that the ministry provided detailed information on the release to the Russian Embassy. The Russian foreign ministry considers this to be the date when its government was officially notified, saying the Japanese government handled the matter inappropriately.

    The South Korean government, which was given a detailed explanation on the release by the Foreign Ministry on April 6, was also upset at the delay. Major South Korean newspapers gave extensive coverage to the contaminated water release, while questions flew in the South Korean parliament regarding the way the Japanese government treated the issue.

    In China, the water release was also severely criticized by the media, saying the Japanese government did not thoroughly weigh possible consequences to the global community as a result of the contaminated water release.
    by Veenie 5/13/2011 1:47:02 AM

  • @angela it has dragged on because governments can only lean on governments and japan government are unable to interfere too much as their laws say the plant is responsible so leaning on goj just doesn't work
    by elainekirk 5/13/2011 1:48:37 AM

  • @Elaine, so it has to deteriorate, but is that just it TEPCO doesn't think the situation is truly deteriorating?
    by Angela5pointo 5/13/2011 1:49:59 AM

  • @Angie You're most welcome! I bet their master plan to fill the whole building just went up in smoke...no pun intended.
    by LM 5/13/2011 1:51:14 AM

  • Even though I posted it earlier, still want to post again. Sad. "Fukushima village on way to becoming ghost town" search.japantimes.co.jp
    by Panserbjorne9 5/13/2011 1:51:34 AM

  • @Panserbjorne9 ty. I am logging all of these human impact stories for work to be done later. Hadn't seen that one.
    by bo 5/13/2011 1:52:42 AM

  • @LM Yes for sure and it was a lot of water being pumped into there too if I remember right...........surely they would of noticed a leak
    before now?
    by Angie 5/13/2011 1:52:44 AM

  • @Angela5pointo maybe it's a 'can't see the forest for the trees' situation.
    by Panserbjorne9 5/13/2011 1:52:52 AM

  • Radioactive sewage sludge found in Tokyo (Japanese) sankei.jp.msn.com
    by Bobby1 5/13/2011 1:53:21 AM

  • @bo yw. I'll keep doing it then. It's not 'techy' but I think it's pertinent.
    by Panserbjorne9 5/13/2011 1:53:32 AM

  • @Veenie For scale, here you go. That figure (90,000 tons, or 90,000 cubic meters) went from 26 Olympic swimming pools of water to 36 pools in a single week.
    by RadioGuy 5/13/2011 1:53:48 AM

  • @RadioGuy I was wondering how much that is....thanks
    by Veenie 5/13/2011 1:55:07 AM

  • @Angela5pointo We already identified the TEPCO definition: Stable = Deterioration hasn't accelerated.
    by RadioGuy 5/13/2011 1:55:50 AM

  • @Panser, that is only what I can hope the reasoning is.....
    by Angela5pointo 5/13/2011 1:56:06 AM

  • Prof. Kosako was threatened with confidentiality agreement AND 1-year jail time. Headline of "Josei Jishin" magazine 5/24.
    He was the Advisor to Kan, that resigned.....
    by Veenie 5/13/2011 1:56:55 AM

  • @Angie If I were a gambler I'd place a sizable bet that they already knew. They mentioned the possibility and then went ahead with the plan. I think they were hoping they could outrun the leak without anyone knowing. Just my 2 cents.
    by LM 5/13/2011 1:58:08 AM

  • @Radioguy, but what is accelerated???lol...it turns into a vicious circle. I guess it's just amazing what the eyes and ears in the forum have seen (which I have lurked upon since the beginning of Reuters)
    , however we are looking from outside of the box.
    by Angela5pointo 5/13/2011 1:58:18 AM

  • Well finally sunshine here after days of downpour. Off to ride my bike to work, through the Peace Park and past the Atomic Dome, another testament to horrific actions long forgotten. But hey, how 'bout that local sports team?
    by bo 5/13/2011 2:00:20 AM

  • @Angie With all the water everywhere else, if they managed to somehow pump in more than was leaking out in reactor 1 then they could blame water leaks on the other reactors and claim at least one big victory.
    by LM 5/13/2011 2:02:16 AM

  • @LM You have a very good point there...........
    by Angie 5/13/2011 2:03:50 AM

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