Japan Earthquake | Page 1143

  • The tried to copy the BP response plan. But someone forgot to tell them nukes last a while.
    by RadioGuy 5/13/2011 2:05:32 AM

  • @Angie I've become so cynical. This has really opened my eyes.
    by LM 5/13/2011 2:09:42 AM

  • wel I think I was living under a rock until this all happened! It has opened my eyes as well to a lot of things.
    by Angie 5/13/2011 2:11:16 AM

  • just looking at webcam and it is steaming just as merrily it is just more difficult to see
    hey has fitter been on today?
    by elainekirk 5/13/2011 2:13:04 AM

  • @elainekirk have not seen fitter.
    hope he/she is ok
    by Panserbjorne9 edited by elainekirk 5/13/2011 2:15:08 AM

  • How did the General Electric (GE) Mark 1 BWR reactors create such a world-wide tragedy? www.faDepeirewinds.com
    by Majjham Zazen edited by lillymunster 5/13/2011 2:37:49 AM

  • Same here... Still just trawling the web for news... Feeling a little Quioxotic.
    by Panserbjorne9 5/13/2011 2:47:45 AM

  • TEPCO drowning in dealing with tons of radioactive water www.asahi.com
    by Majjham Zazen 5/13/2011 2:48:20 AM

  • Hey techies, a listener to my radio interview in Oz this morning sent in a question that I can't answer with authority and probably someone here can. I repost: Is thorium a
    safe alternative to uranium and can existing power stations be used with
    thorium?
    by bo 5/13/2011 2:50:42 AM

  • cc.readytalk.com

    This is the playback link to the American Medical Association Japan Webinar on
    Medical and public health implications of a radiation emergency

    With the potential for a nuclear disaster at Japan's Fukushima Dai-ichi power plant, learn about the medical and public health implications of radiation events by participating in this American Medical Association (AMA) webinar.

    "Crisis in Japan: medical and public health implications of a radiation emergency," explores scenarios involving individual- and population-based exposures. The program also addresses the different types of ionizing radiation, relative medical and public health consequences of radiation exposure, and diagnostic and treatment considerations for acute radiation syndrome. The program provides information for physicians and other health professionals to advise patients and the public on necessary steps to prepare for a radiation emergency.

    Upon completion of this webinar, participants will be able to:
    - Identify the different types of ionizing radiation and relative medical implications
    - Discuss the diagnosis of and treatment considerations for acute radiation syndrome
    - Advise individual patients and citizen groups of the necessary steps to prepare for a radiation emergency
    - Identify both the immediate and long-term public health roles in a radiation emergency
    by ALBLEE 5/13/2011 2:53:38 AM

  • @Angie I sure hope they come back...What I've truly valued from the beginning is the varied points of view...and the ability of people with different backgrounds to approach this crisis from different angles :-)
    by smoss 5/13/2011 2:56:44 AM

  • @bo....Wired magazine had a pretty awesome article on Thorium reactors a few months back that probably wouldn't be too hard to dig up
    by wrshpr 5/13/2011 2:57:01 AM

  • @bo Depends on who you ask. From what I researched Thorium doesn't have a good track record, a couple of bad test runs. It gets promoted heavily by people with vested interest as a perfect solution. Wikipedia actually has a good write up on thorium along with the German experimental plant. I do not think existing plants could be easily retrofitted because thorium requires a uranium sort of a jump start to the reaction. The German reactor used spheres or thorium so it sounds like the entire reactor configuration is different. IE: they can't just replace urnanium rods with thorium and be off and running.
    by lillymunster 5/13/2011 2:57:05 AM

  • @wrshpr and @lillymunster thanks, I will pass these things on to the listener.
    by bo 5/13/2011 2:58:22 AM

  • They will come back......different time zones mean its quiet at different times lol I think we are all from every where around the world! And I agree with everything you have just said!
    by Angie 5/13/2011 2:58:32 AM

  • Another spectacular example of ridiculously boring headline. Sheesh. "More-than-expected damage found at Japan reactor" hosted.ap.org
    by Panserbjorne9 5/13/2011 2:59:07 AM

  • The German thorium reactor en.wikipedia.org Wiki on thorium en.wikipedia.org
    by lillymunster 5/13/2011 2:59:50 AM

  • @lillymunster Does a Thorium reactor have to be sodium cooled?
    by smoss 5/13/2011 2:59:56 AM

  • @smoss I don't think so but they mention it is the more successful way?
    by lillymunster 5/13/2011 3:00:27 AM

  • @Pedro Jesus Legal e eu Brasileiro. Um Prazer
    by Majjham Zazen 5/13/2011 3:06:05 AM

  • I had this Wired article in my history: www.wired.com
    by radioguy 5/13/2011 3:14:23 AM

  • Thorium
    by radioguy 5/13/2011 3:14:32 AM

  • @all I had not seen these satellite images before...dated March 19th...please forgive if they are repetative www.fukushima-nuclear.com
    by smoss 5/13/2011 3:20:20 AM

  • AP article on reactor problems..... hosted.ap.org
    by wtm 5/13/2011 3:21:38 AM

  • @r
    adioguy ty
    by bo 5/13/2011 3:23:28 AM

  • Hi all! Finally finished cleaning up after dinner. Forgive if this was posted already. Found an article with the full monty on it. www.theatlanticwire.com
    by LM 5/13/2011 3:31:00 AM

  • Wow... The Atlantic. They join the stunning group of what, three intrepid journalists on this?
    by radioguy 5/13/2011 3:36:15 AM

  • And with a real headline. Only downplayed a little. (Passive voice)
    by radioguy 5/13/2011 3:37:22 AM

  • @radioguy did you see my AP post??(shakes head)
    by Panserbjorne9 5/13/2011 3:40:50 AM

  • @radioguy I know...pathetic isn't it. For two months they've been trying to calm people by saying it was only a partial meltdown. You would think the press would go for the jugular. Oh well.. I guess it's just not as sexy as war.
    by LM 5/13/2011 3:40:58 AM

  • why is it that all of these headlines seem so surreal? It is as if "The Onion" wrote them- " Full meltdown made official" or "Worse then previously reported".
    by inCalifornia 5/13/2011 3:42:47 AM

  • "worse than expected damage"
    by Panserbjorne9 5/13/2011 3:43:58 AM

  • pointscope01.jp

    Teppycam 2011/05/13 12:00 JST
    Nice blue sky after days of grouchy foggy misty views.

    by ALBLEE via Pointscope01.jp 5/13/2011 3:43:58 AM

  • @all Last August, Beyond Nuclear’s radioactive waste watchdog, Kevin Kamps, was invited by Green Action Japan and their local Fukushima anti-nuclear environmental allies to travel to Fukushima specifically to speak about the risks of storing MOX high-level radioactive waste in storage pools.

    “If the citizen groups had not been successful, there would have been a 33% load of MOX at Fukushima Daiichi 3 instead of the current 5% and there would have been MOX in the spent fuel pool,” said Kamps. “The activists have saved countless lives by preventing what might have been a worse disaster than is already taking place.”

    nuclearhistory.wordpress.com Question to pose for consideration is this: If only 5% had been loaded into the reactor, where would TEPCO be storing the remaining MOX assemblies, and would these be kept on site?
    by smoss 5/13/2011 3:45:14 AM

  • @Panserbjorne9 That one was particularly pathetic!
    by LM 5/13/2011 3:45:59 AM

  • @Panserbjorne9 "The rods are probably not in their original configuration." That still has to be the classic.
    by radioguy 5/13/2011 3:50:05 AM

  • @radioguy That definitely takes the prize......The Fukushima Razzies.
    by LM 5/13/2011 3:51:54 AM

  • @Panserbjorne9 They banked on that (literally) when they self-insured in June of 2010 (after seeing how well it worked out for BP) just before installing MOX in September.
    by radioguy 5/13/2011 3:52:38 AM

  • Despite the bombshell revelation that fuel rods at the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant have been fully exposed since the early days of the disaster, that reactor number 1 is officially in meltdown, along with news that reactor 4 is on the verge of collapse, the corporate media is largely disinterested in the story amidst continued fearmongering about terror attacks and endless coverage of the Bin Laden carnival act. globaltechfirm.com
    by Majjham Zazen 5/13/2011 3:53:42 AM

  • @Majjham Zazen Legal terrorists have no fear.
    by radioguy 5/13/2011 3:55:46 AM

  • @all bye for now
    by smoss 5/13/2011 3:56:09 AM

  • Bye, @smoss. Thanks a lot.
    by ALBLEE 5/13/2011 3:56:32 AM

  • Bye smoss
    by Panserbjorne9 5/13/2011 3:56:35 AM

  • @all I would say this. In many ways we are not as dependent on the mainstream media as we might think. They have never covered nuclear issues well. Even while the US press sang triumphantly about the bombing of Hiroshima, many people had more complicated feelings. People didn't learn the truth about TMI for years, and many never heard the final truth about the fuel melt. But still, no new licenses were issued after that. These issues have an indirect way of penetrating into people's consciousnesses. Even if all the headlines screamed "Meltdown!" today people would forget tomorrow. But humans have a very deeply rooted fear of poison and contamination, and this incident will stick in everyone's head, no matter how accurate the details. Everyone knows the name Fukushima by now. It has joined the all-star groups of names they know: Chernobyl, Three Mile Island. That is a done deal. We should all continue our work here and trust that it will all enter into the group consciousness and discourse in varied and indirect ways. Regardless of what the press does, this will have a devastating impact and will be part of our culture for a long time. This knowledge has a longer half-life than the GOJ or TEPCO knows, or can affect. My two cents.
    by bo 5/13/2011 3:58:11 AM

  • @radioguy "Although the scale of the Fukushima disaster has been put on a par with Chernobyl and latest developments suggest the crisis is only getting worse, the mass media has collectively decided to virtually ignore the story altogether, proving once again that Americans are being fed on a diet of bread and circuses that leaves them dangerously ignorant of what really matters in the world."
    by Majjham Zazen 5/13/2011 3:58:18 AM

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