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  • @elainekirk Yes. A stronger argument is made by considering both sides.
    by Rob in SF 5/23/2011 11:44:38 PM

  • Label it as Industry PR if you're concerned the audience is inept.
    by Rob in SF 5/23/2011 11:45:13 PM

  • @Rob in SF agreed - that's news - in the same way as TEPCO's plans are news
    by UKVal 5/23/2011 11:45:39 PM

  • this blog is not a pr platform though is it ?
    by elainekirk 5/23/2011 11:45:55 PM

  • If you don't think TEPCO releases are PR you're dreaming...
    by Rob in SF 5/23/2011 11:46:13 PM

  • rob where are there 4 tepco pr video's
    by elainekirk 5/23/2011 11:46:44 PM

  • @elainekirk No. I selected a few statements from scores of them released by NEI to convey their positioning post Fukushima. I should have captioned them better perhaps. Feel free to do so...
    by Rob in SF 5/23/2011 11:47:30 PM

  • I'm fascinated by the spin from those who are foisting this stuff on us & I want to know their thinking so I can try to outmanouevre their publicity machine
    by UKVal 5/23/2011 11:47:54 PM

  • @LM blast missed the closeups
    by UKVal 5/23/2011 11:48:29 PM

  • @elainekirk I'm saying every statement released by TEPCO is effectively a PR release.
    by Rob in SF 5/23/2011 11:48:38 PM

  • @Rob in SF I agree. although I wouldn't want this blog swamped by such videos!
    by UKVal 5/23/2011 11:49:38 PM

  • linking and commenting is different from embedding propaganda.
    by Edano 5/23/2011 11:49:40 PM

  • @UKVal They had a great close-up of 4 once and it another of 3 but not aimed where we needed it. they're still moving it.
    by LM 5/23/2011 11:50:11 PM

  • FWIW, I posted those "releases" without comment to see people's reaction to the content within. But it's also worthwhile to consider that they even exist...
    by Rob in SF 5/23/2011 11:50:22 PM

  • @Edano Not in the context we have here, IMNSHO.
    by Rob in SF 5/23/2011 11:50:41 PM

  • @LM my pic had gone dead. Now refreshed
    by UKVal 5/23/2011 11:51:23 PM

  • @Edano I like it out in the open, so you can kick it around. YMMV.
    by Rob in SF 5/23/2011 11:52:30 PM

  • @Hi I should have gone to be loong time ago. ;) But just wated to share this linnk before I close my eyes. Sweet dreams. www.pacificfreepress.com
    by Mona 5/23/2011 11:52:38 PM

  • I'm not sure about 3...there seems like a little something. I'm fairly sure there's a fire in 4 to the lower left just above tree line. It looks like a circular area has been eaten away by it with smoke still coming out. I guess time will tell.
    by LM 5/23/2011 11:55:09 PM

  • Look at all the steam coming out of those roof seams on R2
    by radioguy 5/23/2011 11:56:22 PM

  • They're getting great close-ups of 2...why not the others?!
    by LM 5/23/2011 11:56:29 PM

  • there's 3
    by radioguy 5/23/2011 11:57:57 PM

  • see that. orange in 3
    by LM 5/23/2011 11:58:09 PM

  • I think fire is inside on 4
    by LM 5/24/2011 12:02:49 AM

  • ok the orange on 3 is a ptzie arm. The blob at the bottom of 4 is asl osomething like that. Don't know about $'s innards, but I can't see why that roof hasn't slipped down yet!
    by UKVal 5/24/2011 12:03:55 AM

  • @radioguy yeeah saw that yesterday - the whoel roof edge is buckled & steam coming out all round
    by UKVal 5/24/2011 12:05:05 AM

  • @UKVal I'm throwing my arms up..you are probably right..just me being paranoid. 4 puzzles me though... Thanks for your input!
    by LM 5/24/2011 12:06:30 AM

  • @UKVal And on the center pylon you can see the light they hung up there and the wires hanging down from it.
    by radioguy 5/24/2011 12:07:39 AM

  • gosh typing's getting worse as I get tired. 2 - steam along all the steams. 3 - didn't see anything different. 4 - possible smoke inside but I'm not sure. Those roof beams has slipped more & it appears to have nothing holding it up at the front
    by UKVal 5/24/2011 12:07:46 AM

  • @radioguy - yeah I saw that too! I thought it ws technically feasible -especially with that crane
    by UKVal 5/24/2011 12:08:25 AM

  • Well..we can be sure they're in bad shape!
    by LM 5/24/2011 12:08:38 AM

  • Looks like a pretty thick cable bundle. Wonder what else they have up there... a cam?
    by radioguy 5/24/2011 12:08:50 AM

  • Ohhh, howe convinient right in time for IAEA gathering :-O

    TEPCO Stating the Obvious After 2 Months: Reactors 2, 3 Total Meltdown More Likely

    Here we go. It's official now. All three reactors at Fukushima I Nuke Plant had a total meltdown. What a surprise. We're so shocked, aren't we?

    Yomiuri Shinbun (3:03AM JST 5/24/2011):

     東京電力は23日、福島第一原子力発電所2、3号機について、地震発生直後の原子炉の各種データをもとに解析を進めた結果、1号機と同様に核燃料がメルトダウン(炉心溶融)していたとする報告書をまとめた。

    TEPCO reported on May 23 that the Reactors 2 and 3 at Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant had a core meltdown just like the Reactor 1, based on their analysis on the reactor parameters right after the earthquake on March 11.

     経済産業省原子力安全・保安院に提出する。

    The company will submit the report to METI's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency.

     報告書では、2、3号機について〈1〉炉内の水位が水位計の表示通りだった〈2〉水位計のデータは信頼できず、1号機と同じ様に核燃料が全露出し ている――の二つのケースに分けて、模擬計算を行い、結果を示した。それによると、いずれの場合にも核燃料が溶融して、原子炉圧力容器底部に崩落した状態 になっていると評価。特に、水位計が故障しているケースでは、核燃料全体が溶融して、崩壊しているとした。

    In the report, TEPCO did two simulations regarding the Reactors 2 and 3: 1st, based on the assumption that the water level was what the water gauge had been showing all along; 2nd, based on the assumption that the data from the water gauge were not to be trusted, and the fuel rods were completely exposed, as in the Reactor 1. In both cases, the result showed that the nuclear fuel had melted and dropped to the bottom of the Reactor Pressure Vessel. In the 2nd case where they assumed the faulty water gauge, the result showed the entire fuel rods had melted, according to the report.
    by Veenie 5/24/2011 12:08:51 AM

  • * NEWS ADVISORY: Most fuel melted 101, 60 hrs after Nos. 2, 3 reactors crippled: TEPCO (09:04)
    * NEWS ADVISORY: Pressure vessels may be damaged at Nos. 2, 3 reactors: TEPCO (09:02)
    * NEWS ADVISORY: TEPCO says meltdowns at Nos. 2, 3 reactors unlikely to worsen crisis (08:49)
    * BREAKING NEWS: Tokyo Electric confirms partial meltdown of Nos. 2, 3 reactors (08:43) [Kyodo]
    by Edano 5/24/2011 12:09:15 AM

  • OHMYGODNO! Oh...wait...we knew that...nm...
    by radioguy 5/24/2011 12:09:29 AM

  • Morning! I see I picked a good time to log on!
    by Angie 5/24/2011 12:10:16 AM

  • @Veenie Do you suppose NOW we'll start hearing some realistic planing about how to contain this clusterfrack?
    by radioguy 5/24/2011 12:10:24 AM

  • Contaminated Water Storage Reaching Capacity at Fukushima Daiichi
    Tokyo Electric Power Co. officials told reporters that a building converted to store 10,000 tons of irradiated water contained 8,700 tons of water as of Monday morning, Japan time. At the current transfer rate of 12 tons per hour, the facility will reach its capacity in about five days, at which point the water removal operation will stop until a treatment facility is completed, Japan Today reported.
    by Rob in SF 5/24/2011 12:10:27 AM

  • @Angie Hi! You certainly did!
    by LM 5/24/2011 12:10:50 AM

  • Ling for below nuclearstreet.com
    by Rob in SF 5/24/2011 12:10:53 AM

  • @radioguy a cam to view the tippycam perhaps??
    by UKVal 5/24/2011 12:11:02 AM

  • @Edano Don't you absolutely LOVE this one? "NEWS ADVISORY: TEPCO says meltdowns at Nos. 2, 3 reactors unlikely to worsen crisis (08:49)"
    by radioguy 5/24/2011 12:11:38 AM

  • Nope...they melted down a while ago. not getting much worse from the admission.
    by radioguy 5/24/2011 12:12:05 AM

  • @radioguy I hadn't noticed the roof seems on 2. Thanks for catching that!
    by LM 5/24/2011 12:12:20 AM

  • @radioguy oh dear you have to laugh! I suppose it's another way of saying 'it's as bad as it gets'
    by UKVal 5/24/2011 12:12:38 AM

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