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  • @Majj Great find! This is the first news mention of them using a building as a storage pond. I had a reporter tell me they were considering this at one point.
    by Nancy 5/26/2011 12:35:59 PM

  • Hudebnik, as jt pointed out yesterday, blue and pink "flash"/cast can appear due to IR cut filter switching in and out.
    by Markfm 5/26/2011 12:49:50 PM

  • CNN picked up the contaminated seafood story news.blogs.cnn.com
    by Nancy 5/26/2011 12:57:03 PM

  • The "Cerenkov" glow could also be due to cut filter operation. From jt's post yesterday: "Pink/blue transition in morning and blue/pink transition at night is an IR Cut Filter on the webcam. Not mysterious." Google "IR cut filter" and "blue cast" or "pink cast"
    by Markfm 5/26/2011 1:08:46 PM

  • 26 May vs 25 May 6:00 changes: #1 showing drop in S/C pressure from 100 down to 35 kPa absolute -- they've added a note for "monitoring" (not sure if it's accurate). #1 D/W B big drop, from 204 Sv/hr down to 39 Sv/hr today. #1 other parameters pretty stable. #2 all parameters pretty stable. #3 pretty stable, though DW temps still rising, to 147/113C, from 140/107C yesterday.
    by Markfm 5/26/2011 1:22:36 PM

  • Thicket of differing views, explanations await nuclear accident investigators mdn.mainichi.jp
    by Markfm 5/26/2011 1:25:50 PM

  • TEPCO says it continued seawater injection at reactor without interruption
    mdn.mainichi.jp
    by Markfm 5/26/2011 1:26:40 PM

  • TEPCO fears leaks after level of contaminated water in disposal facility drops mdn.mainichi.jp "level of contaminated water kept in the basement of a building within the central waste disposal facility near the crippled nuclear reactors had dropped by about five centimeters in one day. The water was transported to the building from the No. 3 nuclear reactor. TEPCO said its analysis showed no change in ground water on the premises, and therefore it said, "The possibility is low of the water leaking out of the facility."" Do they think mysterious aliens are coming in and taking the water at night? Of course it is leaking.
    by Markfm 5/26/2011 1:29:41 PM

  • @Markfm Depending on what building they mean by "disposal facility". There is a waste treatment facility north of #4 and down near the docks. There was smoke or green mist seen in that area on the TEPCO cam yesterday. I thought it might have been spraying that green dust inhibitor, others thought it was smoke or steam. Either way, interesting if this is the building that was leaking. The other buildings it might be seem less likely since they are multiple small buildings. bravenewclimate.files.wordpress.com

    by Nancy via Bravenewclimate.files.wordpress 5/26/2011 1:36:11 PM

  • @markfm - I've updated the flashwiki to read "The pink and blue effects have been explained as being caused by the camera switching between settings for day and night."
    by hudebnik 5/26/2011 1:39:26 PM

  • @hudebnik After watching the videos from yesterdays morning light show, I am forming the opinion that what we saw was a direct beam of light being shot into the camera. The light came on gradually from the right of the screen, like it was "looking" for something, and got brighter as it neared the camera. Through the light and in tilt screen, the smoke is visible, and there was a lot of it. My guess is they did something, they didn't want us to see. I went back and compared the current visual of the reactors with screen shots from past days, and there is no "new" damage that would indicate an explosion. Camera guy showed us the smoke/steam/fog bank when he panned out, showing us a "tornado" like stream coming up from the plant area. There was also a lot of steam coming out of the towers by 2 & 3. It makes sense for TEPCO to do the massive releases under cover of dark, when their country is sleeping vs. doing this during the day when it can be seen and feared. With video's showing up on youtube of these smoke shows, it also makes sense for them to find a way to stop that as well.
    by deb 5/26/2011 1:40:49 PM

  • Greenpeace sent samples from Fukushima offshore to professional labs in France and Belgium. "The results of the details analysis are back – and we can say that the situation in the ocean along the Fukushima coast is worse than we originally thought." www.greenpeace.org
    by Ian 5/26/2011 1:40:58 PM

  • Thanks.
    by Markfm 5/26/2011 1:41:06 PM

  • Morning all! The water storage facility is leaking......... TEPCO probes into possible leak at Fukushima
    The operator of Japan's troubled nuclear plant is trying to determine where contaminated water from a waste disposal facility is leaking to, after finding that the water level inside the facility has dropped.

    Tokyo Electric Power Company has been removing highly radioactive water from the Fukushima Daiichi plant's crippled reactors to the waste disposal facility within the compound.

    The utility suspended the transfer from the No.3 reactor on Thursday and checked the water level in its section of the disposal facility.

    Engineers learned that the water level had dropped by 4.8 centimeters over a 20-hour period, meaning some 57 tons of water has been lost.

    The utility says it inspected inside the disposal facility and found contaminated water leaking to a passageway leading to another building.

    TEPCO attributes the problem to a failure to stop the water leaking before the transfer began.
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by LM 5/26/2011 1:41:38 PM

  • @Markfm Sorry..you beat me to it! haven't had my coffee yet.
    by LM 5/26/2011 1:42:34 PM

  • dog reunited with family 50 days after evacuating www.japanprobe.com
    by Nancy 5/26/2011 1:42:49 PM

  • Greenpeace is the only NGO I've seen really responding to Fukushima.
    by Ian 5/26/2011 1:43:24 PM

  • TEPCO started with the leaky hoses to pump fresh water. They then managed to leak water while doing the transfer out of one of the basements. Now the place they store water is leaking.
    by Markfm 5/26/2011 1:43:31 PM

  • @Ian If Greenpeace can send samples to France and Belgium, one would think the farmers in Fukushima could send in soil and other samples for testing to the same labs?
    by Nancy 5/26/2011 1:43:50 PM

  • @Nancy New article today on Fuku beef cattle..forgive me if you've seen it already..... Fukushima farmers auction off their beef cattle
    Livestock farmers who have been urged to evacuate from areas near the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant sold off about 400 heads of cattle at an extraordinary auction on Thursday.

    The farmers who took part in the auction in Motomiya City came from Iitate Village and Kawamata Town located about 30 to 40 kilometers northwest of the plant. The government is urging the residents to evacuate by the end of this month for safety reasons.

    After the auction, market officials said the calves were sold for slightly below their going price but adult cattle fetched market prices.

    One farmer from Iitate Village said he will sell 2 remaining heads of cattle, close his business and evacuate to Fukushima City, located west of the village.
    Thursday, May 26, 2011 19:25 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by LM 5/26/2011 1:44:11 PM

  • @deb - yes I'd agree with that. I couldn't detect the same effect yesterday as on Sat/Sun though. Would you be able to grab a couple of good frames from your 'blue period' Sat night movie and post them to the rough 'flashes seen' page fukushimafaq.wikispaces.com ? I'm hoping to do some accurate comparisons with help from others.
    by hudebnik 5/26/2011 1:44:15 PM

  • @Nancy, you'd think so. The article says GP wasn't able to find a lab in Japan willing to test! Amazing the dynamics of collective suicide.
    by Ian 5/26/2011 1:44:55 PM

  • I was dreaming about the water leaks last night!
    by LM 5/26/2011 1:45:25 PM

  • Greenpeace's radiation testing database : www.greenpeace.org
    by Ian 5/26/2011 1:45:34 PM

  • @deb - I'd also expect Tepco to be monitoring both this site and the TBS/JNN camera
    by hudebnik 5/26/2011 1:45:35 PM

  • Er - @LM you don't wish to rephrase that??
    by hudebnik 5/26/2011 1:45:57 PM

  • @hudebnik Fuku and it's water problems dominated my dreams last night...
    by LM 5/26/2011 1:47:57 PM

  • Fukushima No. 1 eyed as site for nuke fuel graveyard search.japantimes.co.jp "The Atomic Energy Society of Japan is discussing a plan to make the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant a storage site for radioactive waste from the crippled station." Yeah, obviously a nice site to store things, good location, no likely weather or geological issues...
    by Markfm 5/26/2011 1:48:21 PM

  • @deb @nancy - One effect I think we're seeing is increased prominence of clouds of steam as the air temperature drops overnight at Fuku. Does anyone have a view about how much more visible the steam would be in cool air?
    by hudebnik 5/26/2011 1:48:54 PM

  • @LM That is really sad...of course, I can't say much, I dream of making videos that wake me up to check that the PC is recording and the screen does not freeze, lol
    by deb 5/26/2011 1:49:02 PM

  • @markfm - well if the area is likely to be sealed off in perpetuity then I can see why that might be suggested.
    by hudebnik 5/26/2011 1:50:00 PM

  • Cooling pipe breach now laid to temblor search.japantimes.co.jp "Tokyo Electric Power Co. admitted Wednesday that one of the critical cooling pipes at its Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant's reactor unit 3 may have been damaged in the March 11 megaquake....But if the temblor had actually damaged the High-Pressure Core Flooder system — which is used to supply coolant water to a reactor core in emergencies to keep nuclear fuel from overheating — power suppliers across the country might be forced to reconsider the quake resistance designs for their reactors."
    by Markfm 5/26/2011 1:50:37 PM

  • @hudebnik True that! Read an article yesterday about a 13 year old boy who posted a "negative" comment on FB about Obama. The FBI showed up at his school and interrogated him (without parent permission). The trolls are everywhere!
    by deb 5/26/2011 1:52:39 PM

  • @hudebnik My unscientific view of the steam vs. weather is the "hot tub theory". If you have ever seen a hot tub outdoors in the winter, it puts of quite a bit of visible steam. I don't think this phenomenon fully explains the steam shows. What we know now, I think it is bits of melted rods hitting water somewhere in containment at 3.
    by Nancy 5/26/2011 1:53:36 PM

  • @deb I'd like to have better dreams tonight...I just woke up to find that the storage facility is leaking too..Yikes. I like the story about the rescued dog much better!
    by LM 5/26/2011 1:54:41 PM

  • @Nancy - with the excellent new graphs in preparation (ty Edano and others) we may be able to better correlate the steam shows with reactor events.
    by hudebnik 5/26/2011 1:57:56 PM

  • @all This was posted late PST and I'm not sure if any of you have seen it. Containment vessel may be damaged as well..... www.yomiuri.co.jp
    by LM 5/26/2011 2:02:57 PM

  • The new Greenpeace data is very disturbing:
    "The new data shows that some seaweed contamination levels are not only 50 times higher than safety limits – far higher than our initial measurements showed – but also that the contamination is spreading over a wide area, and accumulating in sea life, rather than simply dispersing like the Japanese authorities originally claimed would happen.
    Other samples showed lower than expected concentrations of caesium, but much higher levels of iodine than expected, which raises serious concerns that contaminated water is continually leaking from the nuclear plant.
    "
    Here are the original lab reports:
    www.greenpeace.org
    www.greenpeace.org
    by Rob in SF edited by elainekirk 5/26/2011 2:03:54 PM

  • Greenpeace slams Japan response to nuclear crisis
    TOKYO | Thu May 26, 2011 5:14am EDT

    TOKYO (Reuters) - Environmental group Greenpeace on Thursday slammed Japan's "continued inadequate response" to the nuclear disaster at a power plant after new data showed seaweed radiation levels 50 times higher than official limits.

    The new information raised "serious concerns" about long-term risks from contaminated seawater, it said, more than two months after the Fukushima-Daiichi plant was destroyed by an earthquake and tsunami.

    "In contrast, Japanese authorities claim that radioactivity is being dispersed or diluted and are undertaking only limited marine radiation monitoring," it said.

    "Our data show that significant amounts of contamination continue to spread over great distances from the Fukushima nuclear plant," a statement quoted radiation expert Jan Vande Putte as saying.

    "Despite what the authorities are claiming, radioactive hazards are not decreasing through dilution or dispersion of materials, but the radioactivity is instead accumulating in marine life. The concentration of radioactive iodine we found in seaweed is particularly concerning, as it tells us how far contamination is spreading along the coast, and because several species of seaweed are widely eaten in Japan."
    www.reuters.com
    by hudebnik 5/26/2011 2:04:19 PM

  • And a different angle on the same story: Greenpeace warns of radioactive sea life off Japan
    By Yuka Ito, AFP
    TOKYO (AFP) - Environmental group Greenpeace warned Thursday that marine life it tested more than 20 kilometres (12 miles) off Japan's stricken Fukushima nuclear plant showed radiation far above legal limits.

    The anti-nuclear group, which conducted the coastal and offshore tests this month, criticised Japanese authorities for their "continued inadequate response to the Fukushima nuclear crisis" sparked by the March 11 quake and tsunami.

    Greenpeace said it detected radiation levels in seaweed 50 times higher than official limits, which it charged raised "serious concerns about continued long-term risks to people and the environment from contaminated seawater".

    It also said that tests, which it said were independently verified by French and Belgian laboratories, showed above-legal levels of radioactive iodine-131 and caesium-137 in several species of fish and shellfish.

    "Our data show that significant amounts of contamination continue to spread over great distances from the Fukushima nuclear plant," said Jan Vande Putte, a Greenpeace radiation expert, at a Tokyo news conference.

    Japan's seafood safety limit for caesium-137 is 500 Becquerels per kilogram (227 per pound).

    Greenpeace said it found levels of 740 Becquerels per kilogram in oysters, 857 in a fish species, 1,285 in sea cucumber and 1,640 in seaweed.

    The maximum iodine-131 limit is 2,000 Becquerels per kilogram for seaweed, but Greenpeace said it found a level of 127,000 Becquerels per kilogram in the seaweed species Sargassum Horneri.

    The group said that "eating one kilo of highly contaminated seaweed sampled by Greenpeace could increase the radiation dose by 2.8 millisievert -- almost three times the internationally recommended annual maximum".

    "Despite what the authorities are claiming, radioactive hazards are not decreasing through dilution or dispersion of materials, but the radioactivity is instead accumulating in marine life," Vande Putte added.

    "The concentration of radioactive iodine we found in seaweed is particularly concerning as it tells us how far contamination is spreading along the coast, and because several species of seaweed are widely eaten in Japan."

    Vande Putte accused Japan of doing to little to measure and share data on marine life contamination and said "Japan's government is mistaken in assuming that an absence of data means there is no problem.

    "This complacency must end now, and (the government must) instead mount a comprehensive and continuous monitoring programme of the marine environment along the Fukushima coast, along with full disclosure of all information about both past and ongoing releases of contaminated water."

    The tests were conducted by Greenpeace monitoring teams on shore and from its Rainbow Warrior flagship, which was only allowed to test outside Japan’s 20-kilometre (12-mile) territorial waters.

    Japan has said ocean currents and tides are rapidly diluting contaminants from the tsunami-hit atomic plant, and Fukushima prefecture told AFP on Thursday that no fishing is going on at the moment in its waters.

    "We have exercised self-restraint as (prefectural) safety tests have not been conducted yet," said a Fukushima official. "We will make a decision after confirming the results of the tests, which will take place shortly."

    The official added: "People do not bother fishing now. If you caught fish or other marine products in waters near the plant, they wouldn't sell."

    Japan's fisheries agency, and neighbouring prefectures, have been checking marine products at different spots, and the government has prohibited fishermen from catching some species found to have elevated radiation levels.
    en.news.maktoob.com
    by hudebnik 5/26/2011 2:07:14 PM

  • back for awhile before traveling home
    by dean 5/26/2011 2:08:31 PM

  • @dean Hello
    by fitter 5/26/2011 2:09:00 PM

  • gm fitter.. did you get those links I left for you
    by dean 5/26/2011 2:09:16 PM

  • I can bring them up here again if you didn't @ fitter
    by dean 5/26/2011 2:09:54 PM

  • @dean yes thanks. were you able to find out if the reactor actually
    by fitter 5/26/2011 2:10:03 PM

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