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  • The Greenpeace original is here www.greenpeace.org
    by hudebnik 5/26/2011 2:10:37 PM

  • @dean sorry hit the wrong key... able to find out if the reactor actually has a "vertical growth" from expansion... if so, how is it acounted for if it has any significant growth... may be so minute that it has no bearing... i would expect the piping systems to have thier own "expansion design paramiters" just due to there own heat loads.... they do seem to contain enough bends that it would relieve some stress factors from vessel expansion, but have no info on the supports or anchors so that would only be a wild ass guess!
    by fitter 5/26/2011 2:15:22 PM

  • by Rob in SF 5/26/2011 2:17:35 PM

  • @dean have you looked at the instrumentatoin drawings on the US plants? some very confusing configurations!!!! Many double vavles, with INST AIr, ELEC. then secondary valves with DC... it would have been interesting to have been in the control rooms.... going by the US diagrams.... they must of had alarms going crazy!!!
    by fitter 5/26/2011 2:18:39 PM

  • @ fitter can you call right now?
    by dean 5/26/2011 2:20:26 PM

  • May 24th in 13 minutes:

    by deb 5/26/2011 2:21:12 PM

  • @dean ya
    by fitter 5/26/2011 2:21:17 PM

  • standing by
    by dean 5/26/2011 2:21:31 PM

  • Oceanographers know that the Kuroshio current sweeps west from Japan to the Central Pacific and then toward the U.S. West Coast, but they’re less certain how it behaves after it branches toward Alaska and California.

    Radiation still leaking into the sea from the damaged Fukushima nuclear power plant will help them document the ocean’s circulatory system.

    “By the time that current reaches the Central Pacific, there are branches heading more towards Alaska and the South—that gets harder to predict,” said Ken Buesseler, a senior scientist with the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute.

    “But that’s one of the things that several people hope to do by measuring these isotopes even at levels when they’re not harmful. We could actually track those ocean currents and better understand the circulation pattern in the Pacific.”
    blogs.forbes.com
    by Rob in SF edited by elainekirk 5/26/2011 2:21:35 PM

  • The Japanese government on Tuesday appointed Mr. Hatamura, an engineering professor emeritus at Tokyo University, to head an independent investigation into what propelled the Fukushima Daiichi disaster.

    The mission at hand falls into the 70-year-old academic’s sweet spot. Mr. Hatamura runs a consulting group, the Association for the Study of Failure, which studies how to apply lessons from past blunders to prevent future recurrences. He also heads up the government-financed Failure Database Project, which similarly investigates and draws lessons from famous foibles. Over the years, Mr. Hatamura’s failure-focused organization has also compiled several past analyses on nuclear-power plant accidents, including a study on Fukushima Daiichi and another Tepco-operated plant.
    blogs.wsj.com
    by Rob in SF 5/26/2011 2:25:08 PM

  • A Hatamura invetigation on Fukushima Daiichi...
    Case Name Fraud related to air-tight test reactor containment Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station Unit 1
    translate.google.com
    by Rob in SF edited by elainekirk 5/26/2011 2:26:13 PM

  • The input box has changed can anybody else see a twitter button?
    by elainekirk 5/26/2011 2:34:36 PM


  • @elaine - no
    by hudebnik 5/26/2011 2:41:39 PM

  • ok ty @hudebnik I am probably in some parrallel universe I can cope I can pop in see my mate captain kirk of the starship....
    by elainekirk 5/26/2011 2:46:29 PM

  • @dean have you got this timeline of the water injection in #1 www.tepco.co.jp
    by elainekirk 5/26/2011 2:50:47 PM

  • by deb 5/26/2011 2:51:36 PM

  • sorry was away.. I'll copy it elaine ty .. :)
    by dean 5/26/2011 3:02:49 PM

  • Another plant Tepco won't have running for awhile
    We are announcing the status of major inspections and restoration works
    and nonconformances at TEPCO's Kashiwazaki-Kariwa Nuclear Power Station
    after the Niigata-Chuetsu-Oki Earthquake.
    www.tepco.co.jp
    by elainekirk 5/26/2011 3:18:10 PM

  • NHK stories carried in today's JAIF Earthquake Report (good reading for a quick overview): (Fukushima NPP site) ●TEPCO suspects new leak at Fukushima ●Nitrogen injection into No.1 reactor stops again ●Quake may have damaged key piping at No.3 reactor (Environment) ●Radioactive substances detected in tea leaves
    (Other News) ●IAEA team visits Tokai Daini nuclear plant ●Japan pledges full cooperation with IAEA ●IAEA team briefed on Fukushima accident
    ●Kan to state nuclear safety ●Kan: Japan to reduce nuclear energy ●Switzerland heading for non-nuclear energy ●Japan to express concern over import restrictions ~~●DPJ calls to keep Fukushima cattle for research
    by Markfm edited by elainekirk 5/26/2011 3:20:26 PM

  • @mark this from yours "DPJ calls to keep Fukushima cattle for research " and @robs "Radiation still leaking into the sea from the damaged Fukushima nuclear power plant will help them document the ocean’s circulatory system." blogs.forbes.com
    makes me despair
    by elainekirk 5/26/2011 3:29:36 PM

  • Containment vessels also damaged. www.yomiuri.co.jp
    The Yomiuri Shimbun

    Not only the pressure vessels, but the containment vessels of the Nos. 1 to 3 reactors at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant were probably damaged within 24 hours of the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, according to Tokyo Electric Power Co.'s analysis of the nuclear crisis.
    by LM 5/26/2011 3:43:26 PM

  • I must travel.. see you all in about 4 hours.. KEEP UP THE EXCELLENT WORK
    by dean 5/26/2011 3:44:22 PM

  • @Elaine, I found this article. Reminded me of all the structural issues we found in the research batch. I think we may have enough to write out something about TEPCO's neglect on the reactors. I still can't find the web page from Chubu that shows the roof braces they considered on their old BWR units. Other than that I think we have enough to make a pretty bullet proof case now. depletedcranium.com
    by Nancy 5/26/2011 3:51:42 PM

  • I started a post on the group site for reactor technical documents - technical manuals on the Mark 1 reactor and any blueprints or schematics we have for the units at Daiichi. If you have material to add please ask me or radio guy for a login so you can add yours or contact one of us to add it in for you. houseoffoust.com
    by Nancy 5/26/2011 3:59:07 PM

  • @angie I will go hunt the chubu roof
    by elainekirk 5/26/2011 3:59:31 PM

  • Lookie what's first up on Google search, after the twitfeeds... www.google.com
    by Panserbjorne9 5/26/2011 4:09:32 PM

  • @Panserbjorne9 Wow, I just posted that a few minutes ago.
    by Nancy 5/26/2011 4:10:38 PM

  • @Nancy lOL it's above Tepco's own listing.... love it
    by Panserbjorne9 5/26/2011 4:12:23 PM

  • @Panserbjorne9 Mwahaha.
    by Nancy 5/26/2011 4:12:39 PM

  • I have Edano's static graphs of the reactor data on the website houseoffoust.com
    by Nancy 5/26/2011 4:13:12 PM

  • Reactor 1 Drywell Reading Hits All Time High 204 Sieverts/Hour

    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 05/25/2011 18:10 -0400



    Remember Fukushima, the worst nuclear catastrophe in the last 20 or so years which soon will surpass Chernobyl in total radioactive emissions into the environment? Well, the radiation in the now officially melted down Reactor 1 has just hit the highest ever reading since the crisis began, or 204 sieverts/hour, recorded in the drywell. Not Micro. Not Milli. Sieverts. It appears the "excuse" that the counters are broken isn't being used this time, although we are confident that the "spurious reading" allegations will fly.
    www.zerohedge.com

    by Veenie via Zerohedge 5/26/2011 4:16:38 PM

  • @veenie that is frightening @Nancy when does the site go live with its own name for tweeting fbook spreading?
    by elainekirk 5/26/2011 4:29:49 PM

  • I understand if I am the only one who didnt know this ..
    oles were punched in the roofs of units 5 and 6 to vent buildups of hydrogen gas, and the temperature in Unit 5’s fuel storage pool dropped after new water was pumped in, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said.
    businesscounsels.com
    by elainekirk 5/26/2011 4:30:56 PM

  • Only apply if you are small enough to fit in pockets
    recruitment.iaea.org
    Position and Grade: Safeguards Training Officer (NDA) (P-4)
    Organizational Unit: Training Section
    Division of Concepts and Planning
    Department of Safeguards
    Duty Station: Vienna, Austria
    Issue Date: 26 May 2011
    Application Deadline: 7 July 2011
    Type/Duration of Appointment: Fixed term, 3 years (subject to a probationary period of 1 year)
    by elainekirk 5/26/2011 4:35:54 PM

  • @elainekirk are these new holes in the roof? I know they put holes in the roofs when the others blew up.
    by Nancy 5/26/2011 4:41:09 PM

  • @elainekirk I am hoping to have the name stuff all done tomorrow morning. I am thinking going live Monday morning to allow the weekend to get some additional content and authors added.
    by Nancy 5/26/2011 4:41:54 PM

  • @Veenie, do you want login to the website to add eq reports etc?
    @Elaine, I need to get you a login as a back up even if your not wanting to post content.
    @all we will be gradually adding people who want to put content on the group web site, trying to do so in batches to lower the chaos level. If you want authoring ability contact me or radioguy
    by Nancy 5/26/2011 4:45:13 PM

  • @nancy I should think they mean the initial holes I guessed you would be aware of them if they were :)
    by elainekirk 5/26/2011 4:45:52 PM

  • Where is the group site located?
    by Markfm 5/26/2011 4:47:14 PM

  • Mark, temp location is www.houseoffoust.com that will change tomorrow and I will post the new addy when it is online.
    by Nancy 5/26/2011 4:47:50 PM

  • Good, curious to see if I'll be able to reach the new site.
    by Markfm 5/26/2011 4:48:15 PM

  • @veenie - the level reached 247Sv/hr on 25th, and then dropped back today to 'only' 44 Sv/hr or so. The readings are highly erratic, and the sensor is marked 'instrument failure'. Latest graph translate.google.co.uk Tepco figs at www.tepco.co.jp
    by hudebnik 5/26/2011 4:54:26 PM

  • @Markfm can you post the daily report over there if we get you a login and show you where to add it in?
    by Nancy 5/26/2011 4:54:39 PM

  • Depends on if I can reach it from work.
    by Markfm 5/26/2011 4:55:09 PM

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