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@elainekirk mine can be removed or consolidated. We could move Ian's video to the wiki
by Nancy 5/27/2011 4:01:33 PM

@Nancy nice job on the pics.... can you tell on the first one if the blue object is a tank, there is a "backwash supply tank on the bp for #1, if three has the same its long gone? also can you tell if the long item is a "crane" or the duct work, its not circled so I'am not sure what item people are refering to ?
by fitter 5/27/2011 4:02:49 PM

@Nancy Excellent. I have a meeting at the station, but if I have a chance I'll try to figure out the rest of the labels on that readings page. The translation we had was for R3, but the readings for temp are different on all three.
by radioguy 5/27/2011 4:03:11 PM

A Kinship Circle Disaster Animal Response Team searches roads and homes in the Yamakiya District of Kawamata, the most recent part of Fukushima Prefecture under mandatory radiation evacuation. Thousands of animals are already trapped without food, water or care in Futuba District ghost towns closer to a nuclear plant damaged in Japan's 3/11/11 earthquake-tsunami. When Yamakiya empties under nuclear emergency law - along with Hirono, Kawauchi, Naraha, Iitate and parts Minami Soma and Iwaki City - a police-barricaded 20km zone widens to 30km. The team races against the clock to prevent another death camp for left-behind animals.

Read more: www.sfgate.com
by Panserbjorne9 5/27/2011 4:03:22 PM

i would like to know exactly which members decided the group's name. i myself wasn't asked.
by Edano 5/27/2011 4:06:17 PM

@fitter the long greenish thing up on the work deck area is the big overhead crane. The blue thing could be a tank, it looks to be maybe 3 feet across the short sides based on other objects.
by Nancy 5/27/2011 4:06:25 PM

I will probably be back later, feeling like garbage.
by Nancy 5/27/2011 4:06:56 PM

what happens here ? i ask questions about the group's name, immediately i get moderated and afterwards deleted ? is this the kind of democracy you want ?
by Edano 5/27/2011 4:09:03 PM

@Nancy ty hope you feel better
by fitter 5/27/2011 4:10:13 PM

Report from Tokyo: Who to Believe?

Since the beginning of the Fukushima nuclear crisis in Japan, the question of who to believe has been of great concern. The Japanese government has shown better transparency in recent weeks and is even distancing itself (at least publicly) from Tokyo Electric Power Company

(TEPCO). Yet as the weeks roll by and the news keeps getting worse, it gets more difficult to trust reports from those who have a vested interest in making things sound worse than they are.

www.huffingtonpost.com
by Panserbjorne9 5/27/2011 4:12:14 PM

i would like to know which group members exactly made the decision for the group's name. as to myself, i was not asked.
there was a poll @edano
by Edano edited by elainekirk 5/27/2011 4:12:17 PM

@you :yes, but the group name is now "simply info". like "simple minds".
by Edano 5/27/2011 4:14:43 PM

Can any tech i person please put the Ian video pinned above onto the wiki please
by elainekirk 5/27/2011 4:15:32 PM

High radiation found on seabed in 300-km stretch off Fukushima
TOKYO, May 28, Kyodo
english.kyodonews.jp
by LM 5/27/2011 4:19:06 PM

why is the group's name not "fukuleaks" ?
It is called both @edano I don't know the techi bits'n'bobs but this is @Nancy's post
I have the domains registered. It could take 12 to 48 hours for the redirect to send them to the group web page updates. www.simplyinfo.org and fukuleaks.org I grabbed both so we had the fukuleaks one if we chose to use it for showcasing certain information or to encourage people to tip us off to news. email addresses are info@simplyinfo.org and tips@fukuleaks.org. I will make sure RadioGuy has login for the email accounts.
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So it looks like either link takes you there so if you are in fuku context use fuku if general then simply info
by Edano edited by elainekirk 5/27/2011 4:19:59 PM

Edano i believe that SimplyInfo won the poll, and we are going to use fukuleaks as a subheader for this particular topic.
by Panserbjorne9 5/27/2011 4:21:46 PM

@Panserbjorne9
Group Name Vote
Fukuleaks.org Domain: fukuleaks.org 36% (39)
SavingFukushima.org Domain: SavingFukushima.org 0% (0)
@all domain: atallgroup.org 1% (1)
Global Analytics Group domain: Globalytics.org 6% (6)
Worldwide Analytics Group domain: WORAN.org 1% (1)
Insight Analytic Group domain: INALgroup.org 0% (0)
Coordinated Insight Analysis domain: CINAN.org 2% (2)
InsightAnalysisCoalition domain: Inlyst.org 0% (0)
World Energy Action Network. domain available: worldenergyaction.org 6% (7)
SYSYNFO domain: sysynfo.org 0% (0)
Global Intelligance Research Domain: globalintelligenceresearch.org 0% (0)
Simply Info domain available: SimplyInfo.org 28% (30)
INSA - International Nuclear Safety Alliance domain: internationalsafety.org 4% (4)
Collaborative Information Network collaborativeinfo.org 5% (5)
Collaborative News Community collaborativenews.org 2% (2)
Crowd-Sourced Information Analysis, crowdsourceinfo.org is available 11% (12)
Total votes: 109
houseoffoust.com
by Edano 5/27/2011 4:22:24 PM

i believe that happened after the deadline of 9 pm, if i recall correctly. Rob or RadioGuy or Nancy could probably explain, but i seem to remember someone saying that votes came in after the fact.
by Panserbjorne9 5/27/2011 4:23:16 PM

@Edano Make sure you check Nancy's screenshot at the time the vote closed. There have been many Fukuleaks votes since then.
by radioguy 5/27/2011 4:25:08 PM

so this poll was manipulated, as i suspected.
by Edano 5/27/2011 4:25:23 PM

I doubt that. Polls always close. I voted against Fukuleaks becasue it's a one trick pony and can be incorporated under a loose, easy to find banner like SimplyInfo... which to me has its own issues, but not as many as pinning all of this to Fukuleaks. If BP Deepwater happened tomorrow, how would that fit?
by radioguy 5/27/2011 4:27:17 PM

@radioguy you voted against something ? how did you do that ? how often did you vote ?
by Edano 5/27/2011 4:28:27 PM

By choosing one, you are, by definition, choosing against others.
and i chose SimplyInfo for the same reason. If we want to keep using our powers for good, in other situations not related to Fukushima, the name FukuLeaks would be problematic.
by Panserbjorne9 5/27/2011 4:29:39 PM

i noticed quite exactly that "simple minds" more than doubled its votes in the last hour, from 14 to 29 votes. fukulealks always had more votes before that.
by Edano 5/27/2011 4:29:50 PM

@Panserbjorne9 , the absolute measures are besides the point, since most GM detectors probably are not accurately calibrated anyway. Yet, differences between measurements can be important.
by Peter Melzer 5/27/2011 4:30:15 PM

@Peter Melzer Sorry? was that regarding one of the news posts i dropped?
by Panserbjorne9 5/27/2011 4:31:17 PM

@Edano Just the one time. But to me it came down to Fukuleaks and SimplyInfo... both strong names, one in a domain name sense and one in a recognizability sense. Neither of them had the gravitas I would have liked, but it was obvious they were streaking away from the others. Given that neither of them was perfect to me on its own merits, I had to decide to vote based on preponderance of negatives. So yes, basically I voted against Fukuleaks for being too limiting. That was the one argument I couldn't get around..
by radioguy 5/27/2011 4:33:48 PM

Sounds just like political elections that way.
by radioguy 5/27/2011 4:34:52 PM

i really think that a minority here wants to rule the whole group. it makes me more than suspicious. maybe this has become a sock puppet forum. i am very much in doubt about this now.
by Edano 5/27/2011 4:36:26 PM

sounds great! Fukuleaks is in essence a 'project' of SimplyInfo... leaving room for other future SimplyInfo projects. Excellent. Now back to the news & tech... :) Conspiracy theories about the group name should move to the other page...
by jay 5/27/2011 4:38:09 PM

this is just like typical politics. first we manipulate the opinion, then we make elections, then we don't care about that and do what we always wanted.
by Edano 5/27/2011 4:38:35 PM

@Edano I didn't vote for the name, I just post here. My main concern is archiving the posts here, so the archive can be searched. Jim Carver was doing this, but then he got banned or something.
by Bobby1 5/27/2011 4:38:55 PM

and afterwards: "shut up, everyone."
by Edano 5/27/2011 4:38:56 PM

@Bobby1 : you should be careful when posting here, like i will be from now on, just my opinion.
by Edano 5/27/2011 4:40:15 PM

@Edano- I agree with much of what you're saying. That said, I voted for simplyinfo. Once.

by Maureen Burke 5/27/2011 4:40:43 PM

@edano this group remains in the form George created it in. The website created to ensure all the valuable info doesnt disappear into the mists of time is a child that will grow and evolve.
by elainekirk 5/27/2011 4:43:03 PM

I voted 37 times for fukuleaks.guess oly two liked it besides me :-O
by Veenie 5/27/2011 4:43:55 PM

@Maureen Burke and @Edano - I also voted once, for SimplyInfo. But it's the content that I like to see -- I'm not particularly interested in the name.
by Diane_NJ 5/27/2011 4:44:15 PM

I didn't vote, so have no opinion. I'm interested in this particular activity (Fukushima nuclear crisis). My only comment is that this page, perhaps just today, has gone far astray from news/tech.
by Markfm edited by Markfm 5/27/2011 4:44:16 PM

@All- I voted ONCE (as I assumed was what everyone was supposed to do). For Simply Info. I don't really care about the name, but about the purpose and content. That said, I find it ODD that there was an ability (or urge) to vote more than once. We can't vote multiple times in regular elections so why here? Odd. That's all I have to say about that.
by Meretisa 5/27/2011 4:45:57 PM

@Markfm - "perhaps just today"???? Where have you been?
by Maureen Burke 5/27/2011 4:46:17 PM

I will change my vote to simplyinfo( from Collabra). For what thats worth. :-) There will be other things that happen that we all will be interested in, and flexibility would be a good thing.
by Ralph Unger 5/27/2011 4:46:52 PM

@Markfm @Diane_NJ There are all sorts of nuggets of info on this site that I haven't seen in any other sites, it would be a shame to lose it. Maybe there is a way to search it that I haven't heard about. @Edano Sockpuppets have been an issue from the beginning, I just assume that all sites like this have their share of them.
by Bobby1 5/27/2011 4:48:02 PM

i did not want to discuss the name. i just wanted to point out that there was a massive manipulation by a minority. maybe just one person, maybe more. this is not good for ---- us.
by Edano 5/27/2011 4:49:06 PM

Nobody could vote twice because once it had registered your vote further visits took you straight to the results!
There is a mother written asking for help today for people to make the world aware of the FACTS re FUKUSHIMA and bloody nit picking over a web addy has taken up more space
by elainekirk 5/27/2011 4:49:53 PM