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I followed the BP mess closely, I got sources on the gulf and even a source from BP crew, until they shut down their internet. I am too far away from Japan to get any sources except those who post here.
by Ralph Unger 5/27/2011 4:50:40 PM

@elainekirk Amen. please!
by Diane_NJ 5/27/2011 4:50:40 PM

If I lived in Japan, I would only look at this site . Radiation in the food and land. www.mext.go.jp
by Ralph Unger 5/27/2011 4:52:07 PM

this manipulation damages our reliability. @Nancy: people who know how are able to vote 1000 times.
by Edano 5/27/2011 4:53:18 PM

Ed, you are correct, so lets do an online vote.
by Ralph Unger 5/27/2011 4:54:36 PM

Last I'll say on the subject- I'd personally like to know who voted for fukuleaks. I only know of one regular poster who did...
by Maureen Burke 5/27/2011 4:55:38 PM

Let's just set a time, 7:00 AM Fukushima time perhaps and take a vote.
by Ralph Unger 5/27/2011 4:56:54 PM

@Maureen Burke I didn't... the one I voted for is not under discussion. Whatever everyone else decides is fine with me. I'm not looking forward to having an important for in the project. I'll just keep providing the little help I can, like I've been doing on these two scribbles.
by Pedro Jesus 5/27/2011 4:58:56 PM

@jay @ALL The point I think EDANO is making is "manipulation" of the name, not the name... he is very justified in his comments concerning that point... HE and no one should be ignored or belittled.... and in regards to the "one" vote that is not correct.. I was able to go to the results without voting and that's why I did not vote for my name, and any one here know I am in no way capable of manipulation a PC, except by defult... but again my point is not the name used, but the process used... we tried somethiing it seems to have had some quirks... there seems to be some diagreement.. So address it in a diplomatic way... as I have said in the past "Let us not become what we so often accuse TEPCO of. A revote or runoff is not a big deal?? whats the problem???
by fitter 5/27/2011 4:59:13 PM

(for=part)
by Pedro Jesus 5/27/2011 4:59:16 PM

@Edano I agree. It's the principle. I also think the results were skewed by announcing the running counts. Not sure why this was done other than to manipulate votes - I chose not to vote after I'd seen the pre-results published here.
by es 5/27/2011 4:59:44 PM

@Ralph Unger sounds good to me!!!
by fitter 5/27/2011 4:59:48 PM

G-8 urges atomic safety standards search.japantimes.co.jp
by Markfm 5/27/2011 5:00:33 PM

@es its like voting in California, if your canidate can't win why go to the polls?
by fitter 5/27/2011 5:00:39 PM

@fitter Yeah. Same old same old. I thought things might be differet here...
by es 5/27/2011 5:01:17 PM

WOW, CHILDISH.......Content vs. polish.......you gotta be kidding.......gone
by Veenie 5/27/2011 5:02:10 PM

@es Not that i want to stay up later, but never could figure out why they let the polls, out be for the whole country closes!
by fitter 5/27/2011 5:02:35 PM

@es @fitter : exactly, thank you for your understanding. it seems to be very hard to understand ...
by Edano 5/27/2011 5:06:15 PM

@all what ever did happen to George??????? Just wondering not important
by fitter 5/27/2011 5:07:43 PM

@Edano I also understand your point of view but I didn't quite follow the voting thing because I had a lot of work so I can't really have an opinion on that. Like I said, whatever is decided I'll agree with. The two names under discussion seem OK to me. I have no problem with them.
by Pedro Jesus 5/27/2011 5:12:17 PM

Folks, if you are really determined to demand a 'recount' on the group name - please suggest/arrange a polling method that meets your standards, and agree to stick with the result of that method whether it's what you wanted or not. Otherwise this argument will never end, and it will continue to eat up valuable news & tech space on this blog.
by jay 5/27/2011 5:14:56 PM

@mods: please do not delete the poll discussion, because i would like to have it archived and there were some remarkable posts. ty. :)
now techi and news, please.
by Edano edited by elainekirk 5/27/2011 5:17:45 PM

Polls should ideally be secret ballot and not counted until they are closed. But you have to have a way to ensure no-one votes more than once. And that is presumably where this process has become unstuck.
by jt 5/27/2011 5:18:22 PM

sorry: now techi and news i meant !
by Edano 5/27/2011 5:18:38 PM

In my opinion Nancy and others did the work hosted the site , and obtained the domains on the understanding they were the chosen names,so I for one won't be complaining I am damned grateful for all the work people have put into the site
by elainekirk 5/27/2011 5:19:00 PM

uh, what an embarassing typo. srry. ;)
by Edano 5/27/2011 5:19:38 PM

if i was nancy, i would choose a completely different name now.
by Edano 5/27/2011 5:20:36 PM

@Ed, anyone who knows you, knows that was a typo.
by Ralph Unger 5/27/2011 5:21:28 PM

@Ralph Unger @Edano Absolutely. =) Not embarrassing at all. Happens to anyone.
by Pedro Jesus 5/27/2011 5:22:47 PM

Regarding high radiation levels detected in rainwater www.youtube.com , it should be noted that there are natural sources of radiation in rainwater (see for example www.lsc-international.org ). I suspect the measures in the first link exceed natural levels, but I don't know for sure and this needs to be vetted because those readings a very high. Here's a quote from another paper:

"The naturally occurring radionuclides 210Pb and 210Po are present in the atmosphere as decay products of the gas 222Rn. The 222Rn is replenished in the atmosphere by emanation from the surface of the earth where it is produced by decay of 226Ra in geological materials. The 210Pb and 210Po return to the earth as dry fallout or are washed out in rain."
by Ian 5/27/2011 5:26:50 PM

@elainekirk I don't disagree that others did the work and I am also grateful, but I don't think (IMOP) that is what we are discussing... Nancy herself said she did't care... she took a nine o'clock shot... they is only one that can be the winner... but maybe the best solution is to throw out 1 &2 and then just use #3 (don't know what it is) and then it is netrual.. But again I think the conversation is about how we pick, not what we pick... don't really understand why one of the solutions seems to be such a issue.. I vote for #3 and I don't know what it is... but see no reason to lose more people over it.
by fitter 5/27/2011 5:30:11 PM

We are not the only ones who use fission, nature does as well. "A natural nuclear fission reactor is a uranium deposit where analysis of isotope ratios has shown that self-sustaining nuclear chain reactions have occurred. The existence of this phenomenon was discovered in 1972 at Oklo in Gabon, Africa, by French physicist Francis Perrin. The conditions under which a natural nuclear reactor could exist had been predicted in 1956 by Paul Kazuo Kuroda.[1] The conditions found were very similar to what was predicted." en.wikipedia.org
by Ralph Unger 5/27/2011 5:30:19 PM

@elainekirk looks like me and ralph have been shopping at the same store!
by fitter 5/27/2011 5:35:16 PM

i think it can't possibly matter what name we have. i mean the number one search tool is called "google" what matters is that we all work together and do what little we each can to further the dissemination of truth regarding this horrible catastrophe.
by billmcd 5/27/2011 5:35:58 PM

@Markfm I pointed to it at the top of The Latest category on the blog, but links don't seem to work there so I pointed to the Blogroll link.
by radioguy 5/27/2011 5:38:43 PM

from japanfocus.org, by Hirose Takashi: "The Nuclear Disaster that Could Destroy Japan...": "(Nuclear) Power Corrupts
A puzzle for our time: how is it possible for a person to be smart enough to make plutonium, and dumb enough actually to make it?
by Dom 5/27/2011 5:53:16 PM

How dumb is it to not recycle nuke fuel? We cannot because it might be used in a bomb. Any nuke fuel could be used in a "dirty" bomb. The stupidity is huge.
by Ralph Unger 5/27/2011 5:57:52 PM

May 27 pic of building #3 and IAEA team members. www.tepco.co.jp
by Bobby1 via Tepco.co.jp 5/27/2011 5:59:00 PM

It's a good thing that the IAEA is there to see the obvious.
by Ralph Unger 5/27/2011 6:00:35 PM

From Mythbusters, my favorite quote, " Well there your problem!".
by Ralph Unger 5/27/2011 6:02:00 PM

"Hmmm, c'mon guys, get your heads together, how are we going to make this look like there is nothing to worry about?"
by Bobby1 5/27/2011 6:06:30 PM

Saturday, May 28, 2011
Tepco disclosure said lacking from get-go
Kyodo
Tokyo Electric Power Co. did not fully disclose radiation monitoring data after its Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant was crippled by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, the government revealed Friday.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano, after being informed by Goshi Hosono, a special adviser to Prime Minister Naoto Kan, told reporters that he instructed Tepco to sort out the data, make it public and make doubly sure no more information-withholding occurs.

Coming a day after he blasted Tepco's flip-flop over the injection of seawater into the plant's reactor 1, Edano said the government "cannot respond to this matter on the premise" that no more undisclosed information will emerge.

"There is a distinct possibility that there is still more," he said, urging Tepco to accurately and swiftly report the truth to the government.
Hosono also noted Tepco's delay in revealing this fact, 2? months after the nuclear crisis started.

The government will look into how this happened, the two officials said.
search.japantimes.co.jp
by estacion 5/27/2011 6:09:44 PM

@Bobby1 And some of them don't look very happy to be even that close, from body language.
by radioguy 5/27/2011 6:14:20 PM

@all does anyone know if this Kyodo headline means a 300km north-south or a 300km east-west: High radiation found on seabed in 300-km stretch off Fukushima
by jt 5/27/2011 6:16:20 PM