Japan Earthquake

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www.houseoffoust.com
by Nancy 5/27/2011 8:34:38 PM

@Nancy i think its in ther could you put the link up and ill go look
by fitter 5/27/2011 8:34:44 PM

@Nancy @Nancy ty gooing to look
by fitter 5/27/2011 8:35:06 PM

@fitter, the link below is my pic from TEPCO, this is the iaea flicker photos www.flickr.com
by Nancy via Flickr 5/27/2011 8:35:51 PM

@Nancy yes top right of the large photo, stands alone... looks like what the tippy cam show as a light a night (or a reflection) what do you think?
by fitter 5/27/2011 8:38:01 PM

@Nancy Thanks for the info on the tank, the size and suporrts system looks like it could be the backwash if that building has one... we know its not on the top of the building steel under the roof, because that's long gone
by fitter 5/27/2011 8:39:52 PM

Is it close to his helmet or on that back wall?
by Nancy 5/27/2011 8:40:06 PM

@Peter Melzer The Japanese have a well-recorded history of selecting for sweet-sounding birdsong in their long-standing nightingale breeding programs and I know spectral analysis has been done in Japan previously on birdsong. I'm not aware of any current or post-Fuku studies however - agree it would be very interesting to see comparative recordings.
by es 5/27/2011 8:40:48 PM

@Nancy scan all the way to the right on the pic, looking at the south side, the very top of what is remaining of the concrete coluums... looks like the sun reflecting back top right the sky is the only thing above the square framing
by fitter 5/27/2011 8:42:09 PM

@Nancy you added a lot of pics that i have not seen before yesterday they look good
by fitter 5/27/2011 8:42:59 PM

fitter.. basically on the bottom head of the reactor there are cylindrical tubes made of the vessel material that go down roughly a few feet with a flange on the bottom .. the control rod or safety rod drive mechanism then slide up in that tube,, (some times called the guide tube) and bolt to the bottom of the flange..
by dean 5/27/2011 8:43:11 PM

@all sorry off topic- What happened to live cam? I just get solid light blue- not like sky- just solid???
by ch 5/27/2011 8:43:52 PM

@dean the connection to the vessel is what??? weld or flange??? could not decide what was vessel components or the rod drive configuration
by fitter 5/27/2011 8:45:01 PM

@dean ekianekirk is going to get the ladies to take me shopping, i think i've been hanging aroud in my pj's all this time
by fitter 5/27/2011 8:46:32 PM

AND ALL ROADS LEAD TO
Global Nuclear Fuel’s (GNF’s) Japanese arm (GNF-J) has been awarded a contract by Chubu to provide mixed oxide (MOX) fuel for the utility’s Hamaoka 4 power reactor, a 1137MWe BWR.

Global Nuclear Fuel is a joint venture between General Electric, Hitachi and Toshiba. GNF-J will lead the MOX fuel design and engineering, fuel component supply, quality oversight, programme management and licensing support activities for the project.

GNF-J will subcontract the production of MOX fuel pellets and a part of the fuel assembly fabrication to Commox, a French business consortium for marketing MOX fuel that is beneficially owned by Areva NC through its Cogema subsidiary (60%) and by Belgonnucleaire (40%).
www.cranestodaymagazine.com
those interested in fuel journeys should read the rest of the article
by elainekirk 5/27/2011 8:53:29 PM

radioactive iodine found in Hong Kong fish
28/05/2011 7:56:00

A small amount of radioactive iodine-131 has been found in a sample of fish taken from a wholesale market in Hong Kong, the government said on Friday.
Hong Kong has been monitoring radiation levels in the city's food and water supply and atmosphere in the wake of the crisis at Japan's Fukushima nuclear power station.
The level of radiation found in the sample of grey mullet by Hong Kong's Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department - 7.7 becquerels per kilogram - was well below the government guideline of 100 becquerels per kg.
"Based on risk assessment, normal consumption of grey mullets at this low radiation level will not pose any health risk to the consumer," the government said in a statement.

The statement did not say whether the iodine could be traced to the Fukushima plant, which released radioactive material into the air and water after it was badly damaged in Japan's earthquake-tsunami disaster.

www.newstalkzb.co.nz
by Panserbjorne9 5/27/2011 8:56:04 PM

@elainekirk OMG, MEGAfacepalm! I thought Toshiba was getting out of the nuke biz!?
by marierich 5/27/2011 8:56:20 PM

Radioactive Iodine 131 Found Near Kashiwazaki Kariwa Nuclear Plant – Cobalt 58 Found At Hamaoka Nuclear Plant
www.infiniteunknown.net
by Panserbjorne9 5/27/2011 8:57:30 PM

fitter the bottom of that tube has a flange and the drives are bolted on
by dean 5/27/2011 8:59:18 PM

@elainekirk any idea when that story came out, I didn't see a date.
thats '06 Nancy www.cranestodaymagazine.com I have one here that I don't know if UK val has seen.
Hamaoka didnt load unit 4 because they wanted to do more work on it (seismic) I am still trying to find that and these are just bits I find on the way
by Nancy edited by elainekirk 5/27/2011 9:00:00 PM

@Nancy this one is from 12/2010: Chubu postpones MOX fuel program for Hamaoka unit 4

Chubu Electric postponed its MOX fuel program for Hamaoka Nuclear Power Station Unit No. 4. The program was to be implemented this fiscal year but decided not to load the MOX fuel until it assesses Unit 4's seismic safety.

asian-power.com
by Panserbjorne9 5/27/2011 9:01:59 PM

@ukval have you got this -
. A call for the plant and its costs to be investigated has recently been made to the UK’s National Audit Office. SMP’s current overhaul at Japanese expense and with French technical know-how will include the replacement of much of its failed production line.
www.corecumbria.co.uk
by elainekirk 5/27/2011 9:03:53 PM

On the same page where Reuters promotes a video titled "TEPCO confirms triple meltdown" they refer to Fukushima as the "second-worst nuclear accident." www.reuters.com
by bo 5/27/2011 9:04:16 PM

Not only are they all in bed together there seems to be a certain amount of 'bonding' going on -
by elainekirk 5/27/2011 9:05:05 PM

by RadioGuy via Pointscope01.jp 5/27/2011 9:05:08 PM

i53.tinypic.com

Here it is white-balanced.
by RadioGuy via I53.tinypic 5/27/2011 9:09:37 PM

@Panserbjorne9 whew! They would have to be insane to still want to run those reactors and with MOX in them after all that has happened
by Nancy 5/27/2011 9:09:49 PM

It is really strange to read a mainstream commercial news story that is so honest about what is going on in Fukushima. www.bloomberg.com
by Nancy 5/27/2011 9:10:30 PM

www4.ncsu.edu for fitter.. check figure 2-11 and 2-13 and 2-12 and 2-10,,, there is also an explanation of how the safety rod and control rod drives work..

by dean 5/27/2011 9:11:14 PM

nancy.. if fitter isn't here could you post that link with my comment to pick up later
by dean 5/27/2011 9:11:38 PM

@dean saved it
by Nancy 5/27/2011 9:13:29 PM

Nancy.. have you heard anything about pieces falling from the destroyed structures still standing?
by dean 5/27/2011 9:17:14 PM

@Nancy From the Bloomberg story: Tepco knows more than they’ve said about the amount of radiation leaking from the plant,” Jan van de Putte, a specialist in radiation safety trained at the Technical University of Delft in the Netherlands, said yesterday in Tokyo. “What we need is a full disclosure, a full inventory of radiation released including the exact isotopes.” <- In other words, Tepco knows about strontium, plutonium etc. and they haven't told anyone.
by Bobby1 5/27/2011 9:19:51 PM

be back.. snack time.
by dean 5/27/2011 9:22:06 PM

@Bobby1 exactly.
by Nancy 5/27/2011 9:22:26 PM

@dean yes I have. There are worries at #3 for falling objects. They told workers to mind for falling debris. Said if it gets worse they will bar people from entering.
by Nancy 5/27/2011 9:23:14 PM

This is very disturbing, a significant amount of radionuclides have entered the stratosphere. This will enhance the global spread of radiation. www.fukushima-u.ac.jp
by Bobby1 5/27/2011 9:35:00 PM

NOT fuku but a cause of an hydrogen explosion at hamaoka that may or may not be relevant
We have investigated the cause of the fire and considered measures to be taken to prevent a reoccurrence, and the results of these activities are outlined below. As to the cause of the fire, it is presumed that due to charged iron rust particles being emitted from a hydrogen gas exhaust pipe, non-grounded metal around this area took on an electrical charge, the discharge of which ignited the emitted hydrogen and started a fire that spread to combustible materials such as the waterproof coating on the wall.
In order to prevent similar accidents, we have decided to remove or ground all metal around an exhaust pipe to ensure that no electrical charges will be created. We also plan to change the direction of the outlet of hydrogen gas exhaust piping so that hydrogen gas will be emitted in a direction away from combustible materials.
www.chuden.co.jp
by elainekirk 5/27/2011 9:35:53 PM

This is the work I could find no record of tepco doing on the pipes

4) Prevention of Hydrogen Accumulation in Piping
On November 7, 2001, a part of residual heat removal system piping of the Unit 1 (BWR) of the
Hamaoka Nuclear Power Station, Chubu Electric Power Co., Inc., ruptured by rapid
combustion of the non-condensable gas (i.e., hydrogen) accumulated in the piping.
NISA instructed BWR licence holders to alter steam condensation system piping of the residual
heat removal system by removing a part of piping or installing a shutoff valve in it to prevent
accumulation of hydrogen, and to alter, for example, the inclination of other piping systems
where hydrogen may accumulate.
www-ns.iaea.org
by elainekirk 5/27/2011 9:42:00 PM

@bobby1 that is scary are you saving the link ? I didnt see it before posting above it - when others come back will you repost it so it doesnt get missed
by elainekirk 5/27/2011 9:45:52 PM

Irradiated in the valleys north-west of Fukushima in yesterday Le Monde in french: www.lemonde.fr
by Olivier 5/27/2011 9:51:10 PM

@elainekirk I've got it, thanks.
by Bobby1 5/27/2011 9:52:39 PM

@fitter It's all blue anyway. still in the fog.
by RadioGuy 5/27/2011 9:56:25 PM

Pretty sure I heard of debris warnings for#4 too.
by Markfm 5/27/2011 10:03:29 PM

@nancy dancing around the room getting warmer and warmer.
www.chuden.co.jp
www.chuden.co.jp
somebody did the sums on this for fuku but I cannot remember who
by elainekirk 5/27/2011 10:11:40 PM