Japan Earthquake

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@lillymunster , perhaps the problem is that the tea is not strained. That is the water does not get on the corium sufficiently to cool it, and these are att
empts to figure out why.
Peter todays video of the spraying shows your pipe it goes into the turbine room I think www.tepco.co.jp
by Peter Melzer edited by elainekirk 6/5/2011 2:45:03 PM

Curious as to why they are spraying dust inhibitor unless they are expecting dispersal.... :/
by Dennis Tucker Jr 6/5/2011 3:05:28 PM

Inhibitor is supposed to be for the already acknowledged releases
by Markfm 6/5/2011 3:20:51 PM

@Markfm Kinda late for that isn't it?!
by Dennis Tucker Jr 6/5/2011 3:21:13 PM

Just minimizing dust kicked up as they work on site. it sounds reasonable.
by Markfm 6/5/2011 3:24:46 PM

@Dennis Tucker Jr Typhon season has started
by estacion 6/5/2011 3:31:48 PM

Now reporting 4 Sv/hr in R1 ... WTF?!

www.reuters.com
by Paul 6/5/2011 3:35:51 PM

New video of the earless rabbit in Namie www.youtube.com
by Bobby1 6/5/2011 3:38:53 PM

@Paul : that was yesterday.
by Edano 6/5/2011 3:39:54 PM

@Bobby1 : i have a lot of rabbits and i experienced the parents like to eat their children or parts of them. i have had rabbits without ears for this reason.
by Edano 6/5/2011 3:41:57 PM

@Edano Yes, it could be due to that, or it could be due to genetic mutation from the 6 uSv/hr radiation level there.
by Bobby1 6/5/2011 3:43:34 PM

i want to say, missing ears is not what you would expect as radiation induced mutation. this is just too spectacular and easy to see. increasing death birth rate is something i would expect in first place. and then cheilognathouranoschisis.
by Edano 6/5/2011 3:46:24 PM

Cleft lip with cleft upper jaw and palate. that is a typical radiation induced damage. (sorry, not sure about the english word)
by Edano edited by Edano 6/5/2011 3:47:53 PM

@Edano OK thanks - sorry, hadn't heard about that yet. Just saw the 5th June date on the report. Can only look in once in a while. That's beyond scary!
by Paul 6/5/2011 3:49:27 PM

@Edano It's just a story. The only way to prove that it was radiation-induced would be via a DNA analysis.
by Bobby1 6/5/2011 3:50:11 PM

@Bobby1 : we could just wait for its children ........ i bet they have ears.
by Edano 6/5/2011 3:51:14 PM

@Edano Radiation causes genetic mutations.
by Bobby1 6/5/2011 3:52:08 PM

@Bobby1 : yes bobby1, but some mutations occur more often than others. most of the mutations, by the way, will lead to abort or death birth, because not able to live.
by Edano 6/5/2011 3:53:52 PM

@Edano Miscarried rabbits are not featured on news stories. I think that with 52 mSv/year there would be significant birth defects. And that is just external exposure, those rabbits are eating cesium-covered vegetation... internal exposure would be much higher.
by Bobby1 6/5/2011 3:56:32 PM

The rabbit sttory is quite old what is the gestation period for rabbits
by elainekirk 6/5/2011 4:00:20 PM

@Elaine, do you mean this one: www.tepco.co.jp
by Peter Melzer via Tepco.co.jp 6/5/2011 4:00:35 PM

it would be a good idea to make examinations on the rabbits in namie, but missing ears is not a valuable criteria. i wonder if anyone does do such analyses.
by Edano 6/5/2011 4:00:45 PM

@elainekirk idk they just f.... and give birth all the time. ;)
by Edano 6/5/2011 4:01:56 PM

copulate
by Edano 6/5/2011 4:02:15 PM

It would be interesting to see how succeeding generations fare over there. But I don't know why the farmer continues to stay there with that kind of radiation level.
by Bobby1 6/5/2011 4:03:28 PM

and then you have the inbreed problems in a closed population ..... i have blind and deaf rabbits all the time.
by Edano 6/5/2011 4:04:16 PM

@Edano I think what elaine ask about is how long is the rabit pregnacy status.
by estacion 6/5/2011 4:04:45 PM

@Edano , the news about the dead soliders is tragic. We need to find out whether it has been reported elsewhere, horrible if it were suppressed. In addition, in the same article an eyewitness tells of hearing a boom from the suppression chamber of unit 4 right after the quake. That is strange!
by Peter Melzer 6/5/2011 4:05:05 PM

@Peter Melzer i have never heard about that before, but i always wondered that nobody died in that huge explosion .... www.webcitation.org
by Edano 6/5/2011 4:07:24 PM

@estacion : one month. but i understood her ;)
by Edano 6/5/2011 4:08:23 PM

28-33 days
by Edano 6/5/2011 4:09:02 PM

@Bobby1 , the size of all islands of Japan equals roughly the size of MONTANA. More than 100 million people live on them and you cannot live on all land. Where would they go? They could never be farmers again. That is one horrible aspect of this incident.
by Peter Melzer 6/5/2011 4:12:26 PM

Workers prepare water decontamination system at Fukushima nuke plant english.kyodonews.jp

"The system, set up at a facility where such water from the Nos. 2 and 3 units has been transferred, is expected to be able to treat about 1,200 tons per day, reducing the concentrations of radioactive substances to between around one-thousandth and one-ten thousandth."

So, last we heard there were over 100,000 metric tones/cubic meters to dispose, at 1,200 tons per day that's pushing 3 months to clear, and they're putting how many tons a a day on it?
by radioguy 6/5/2011 4:12:36 PM

6 microsieverts/hr is not going to cause noticeable radiation damage. And if the rabbits are eating contaminated veggies then they are most likely to die before being able to pass mutated genes on to the next generation. Getting a little farfetched on the rabbit issue, guys. If you want to check for effects of radiation, I'd suggest you start at the microbial level first.
by Dennis Tucker Jr 6/5/2011 4:14:29 PM

@Peter Melzer And they have been farmers for generations, they probably don't know anything else. Being shut up in a tiny apartment in a faraway city might kill them faster than staying.
by Bobby1 6/5/2011 4:15:12 PM

Hi all... longtime lurker here. The story Edano posted about the Fukushima 50 and the 6 workers that died... tragic indeed. I found the ending particularly sad.

Courage isn’t the absence of fear. It’s going on, even though you are terrified. By that standard, these are very brave men indeed. But there may be one other reason, apart from pride and duty, why they have stayed at their posts: they have nowhere else to go.

And I want to say thank you and I think you are all doing a wonderful job for keeping this blog alive.
by nls 6/5/2011 4:16:55 PM

@Dennis Tucker Jr the rabbits without ears isn't a genetic mutation. It is a common defect in rabbits that is discussed quite a bit among rabbit breeders.
by lillymunster 6/5/2011 4:20:46 PM

At least the'll get to the point where what they can recycle the water without it just getting more and more toxic.

@Nancy Good to see you! :)
by radioguy 6/5/2011 4:21:16 PM

@nls Hi thank you I find it so tragic I couldnt find the words so I will echo yours if you don't mind
by elainekirk 6/5/2011 4:22:54 PM

@radioguy, I estimated that it should process 1,000 tons a day. I have no idea how I guessed it correctly, must be the education on this site
. I hope they get it working soon.
by Peter Melzer 6/5/2011 4:24:46 PM

Oh, thank heavens the coffee's ready... maybe my proofreading skills will wake up.
by radioguy 6/5/2011 4:26:16 PM

@elainekirk : i would rather be caring for my family than risking my life in a darn reactor.
by Edano 6/5/2011 4:26:17 PM

@nls, the uprooting and the consequences reminds me of Kurosawa's "Uzala". That Kurosawa had deep insights!
by Peter Melzer 6/5/2011 4:26:55 PM

@Peter Melzer Perhaps after a while of that running, the steam leaks won't be 4Sv/hr.
by radioguy 6/5/2011 4:27:22 PM

Plutonium found outside Fukushima plant
Minute amounts of plutonium have been detected for the first time in soil outside the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

Shinzo Kimura of Hokkaido University collected the roadside samples in Okumamachi, some 1.7 kilometers west of the front gate of the power station. They were taken during filming by NHK on April 21st, one day before the area was designated as an exclusion zone.

Professor Masayoshi Yamamoto and researchers at a Kanazawa University laboratory analyzed the samples and found minute amounts of 3 kinds of plutonium.

The samples of plutonium-239 and 240 make up a total of 0.078 becquerels per kilogram.

This is close to the amount produced by past atomic bomb tests.

But the 3 substances are most likely to have come from the plant blasts, as their density ratio is different from those detected in the past. www3.nhk.or.jp
by LM 6/5/2011 4:28:02 PM