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  • @elainekirk Good morning to you.
    Yes, those filters will just melt.
    And, speaking of baskets...TEPCo now admits to IAEA that they have 3 of them...with HOLES in the bottom of each, dropping deadly eggs.
    by Reed 6/7/2011 8:02:53 AM

  • when they restored power they by default will have restored the numerous cameras in reactor vessels , containments etc so they have had a pretty good idea of what has happened all along imho
    by elainekirk 6/7/2011 8:06:38 AM

  • WATCH THIS !
    5.77 microsieverts per hour of radiation measured near Tokyo at ground level -- Gov't "is des bit.ly #Fukushima
    by Veenie 6/7/2011 8:07:29 AM

  • is that going on a simplyinfo tweet I can retweet veenie?
    by elainekirk 6/7/2011 8:16:34 AM

  • @elainekirk Already done FB.go shoot !!
    by Veenie 6/7/2011 8:18:25 AM

  • @veenie done! thank you
    by elainekirk 6/7/2011 8:36:03 AM

  • @reed, had a question for you, yesterday there was discussion regarding that possibly #3 was being used for nuclear weapon manufacturing ? And that's really why there was a massive explosion. What would be the difference between what a BMR reactor looks like and what a "breeder" reactor would look like ?
    by wtm 6/7/2011 9:40:33 AM

  • @wtm Hi wtm!
    Here's a Scientific American article that will explain it much better than I can...
    How do fast breeder reactors differ from regular nuclear power plants?
    www.scientificamerican.com
    2.bp.blogspot.com

    by Reed via 2.bp.blogspot 6/7/2011 10:07:32 AM

  • Hi and bye. Just dropping off my video and back to the family!.
    by AustralianCannonball 6/7/2011 10:07:47 AM

  • @veenie The world is so small I actually got that guy to take that reading. He contacted me and told me so I said go outside and make a video. He did.
    by AustralianCannonball 6/7/2011 10:07:51 AM

  • by AustralianCannonball 6/7/2011 10:07:57 AM

  • This was his comment:
    by AustralianCannonball 6/7/2011 10:10:22 AM

  • "I love your passion on this subject and I agree with you 100%. My family and I are in Japan near Tokyo and I can go outside my house right now and get a reading of 5.0~7.0uSv right off the ground."
    by AustralianCannonball 6/7/2011 10:10:24 AM

  • @cannonball I hope that video goes viral
    by elainekirk 6/7/2011 10:11:43 AM

  • @Reed, one of the things I noticed was that they had a pic of #3 and a cutaway of a BWR next to it. Cutaway shows the round Torus, pic of #3 shows 4 support beams holding a square wall against the RPV area. The wall is NOT round as it should be if a Torus was there? Could it have been a "Breeder: passing off as a BWR ?
    by wtm 6/7/2011 10:12:28 AM

  • @elainekirk It probably will. Good for him!. At least I can take credit for telling him to do it. I hope he approves my video response which I had made before I knew he had actually listened to me. So he is the source I quote in my video I just posted.
    by AustralianCannonball 6/7/2011 10:13:35 AM

  • @all goodnight.
    by AustralianCannonball 6/7/2011 10:18:11 AM

  • @Reed, got this out of that article:....... Elsewhere in the world, only India, Russia, Japan and China currently have operational fast breeder reactor programs; Japan had a "Breeder" someplace ???
    by wtm 6/7/2011 10:19:40 AM

  • @wtm The torus sits w/i a square chamber, I believe. Nancy has great floorplans at her houseoffoust.com site, and you might want to check those for reactor #3. I do not think that there's any other reactor in Unit 3 other than a BWR. Besides, they have tons of Pu, and could easily buy more if they needed it.
    by Reed 6/7/2011 10:19:56 AM

  • @Reed, TY !!!
    by wtm 6/7/2011 10:21:02 AM

  • @wtm YW
    Yes, they built their fast breeder prototype at Tsuruga Point in Fuki Prefecture...hang on and I'll try and find out a bit more for you.
    by Reed 6/7/2011 10:24:01 AM

  • @wtm See: wiki for fast breeders @ en.wikipedia.org
    and the Japanese Monju Reactor... @ www.google.com and @ large.stanford.edu
    by Reed 6/7/2011 10:28:19 AM

  • It would be good if we could get more info on this readings in parks translate.google.com
    by elainekirk 6/7/2011 10:28:44 AM

  • 3.bp.blogspot.com
    "1.According to the official number from the Tokyo Metropolitan government measured at 18 meters off the ground at the Tokyo Metropolitan Institute of Public Health [in Hyakunin-cho, Shinjuku], the average radiation level for the month of May was 0.068 to 0.062 microsievert/hour. The ground level (1 meter from the ground) showed the similar number, according to the government. However, when we measured the radiation at 1 meter from the ground, the radiation level similar to the official level was only observed in very narrow, limited areas in Ota-ku, Suginami-ku, and Machida City. The areas with relatively high level of radiation were Ome City, Akiruno City, Nerima-ku, at 0.09 microsievert/hr, the Tokyo Bay area of Edogawa-ku and Koto-ku at 0.1 microsievert/hr, and the highest level of radiation was observed in Adachi-ku and Katsushika-ku, at 0.2 to 0.3 microsievert/hr." ex-skf.blogspot.com

    by Reed via 3.bp.blogspot 6/7/2011 10:39:20 AM

  • @elainekirk Your link for the radiation in the Tokyo Parks is fantastic.
    by Reed 6/7/2011 10:43:26 AM

  • 3.bp.blogspot.com
    "There is a possibility that the radiation level in areas east of the line that connects Koto-ku and Nerima-ku is at the level that will result in 1 millisievert/year." ex-skf.blogspot.com

    by Reed via 3.bp.blogspot 6/7/2011 10:48:43 AM

  • EQ 19:18 JST 07 Jun 2011 37.4N 141.7E 20 km M4.6 Fukushima-ken Oki
    by estacion 6/7/2011 11:19:23 AM

  • @Reed @elainekirk the hotspots in Tokyo parks surprises me. they should make soil readings.
    by Edano 6/7/2011 11:36:04 AM

  • Work continues to support No.4 reactor pool

    At the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, work is continuing to shore up a pool containing spent nuclear fuel at the No.4 reactor.

    Engineers are concerned that a wall supporting the pool, which holds 1,535 spent fuel rods, was damaged in an explosion on March 15.

    Plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Company plans to build a new structure with concrete walls and 30 steel pillars to support the pool.

    The pillars, each 8 meters long, are to be placed under the pool, on the second floor of the building housing the nuclear reactor by the end of June.

    By the end of July, a concrete wall is expected to be in place to complete the structure. A circulating cooling system will be built to stably cool the pool water, which had heated to 89 degrees Celsius.

    Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:58 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 6/7/2011 12:03:09 PM

  • Govt. document shows offsite center dysfunctional

    An internal document from Japan's nuclear safety agency reveals that an emergency response office was nearly dysfunctional at the time of the nuclear accident at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant on March 11th.

    NHK has obtained a document from the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency that shows how the office, called an "off-site center" failed to function properly due to a rise in radiation levels in the wake of a power outage.

    Off-site centers were established at 22 locations near nuclear power plants throughout the country after a criticality accident in 1999 at a nuclear fuel processing plant in Tokai Village in Ibaraki Prefecture.

    Officials of the national and local governments, police and Self-Defense Forces were to gather at these offices in the event of nuclear power plant accidents to formulate plans to evacuate residents.

    A Nuclear Safety and Industrial Agency log shows that an off-site center 5 kilometers from the Fukushima Daiichi plant was barely functional after the March 11th earthquake.

    It reveals that after the power outage, an emergency diesel generator did not work at all, communications were down, and other critical functions were lost.

    The document reveals that officials from only 3 out of more than 20 organizations assembled at the off-site center at around 10:00 PM on March 11th, 7 hours after the earthquake.

    On the following day, the document shows that radiation levels were rising inside the center after an explosion occurred at the Number One Reactor building. It is believed that the off-site center was poorly equipped and unable to prevent radioactive materials from getting in.

    Later, as radiation levels continued to rise, the authorities decided to relocate the functions of the off-site center to the Fukushima Prefectural Government office, 60 kilometers from the nuclear plant, on March 16th.

    Monday, June 06, 2011 22:00 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 6/7/2011 12:04:51 PM

  • @Reed @Edano @Eleinekirk ... 18 m off the ground... Are they kidding and looking for irradiation of the birds? No measurement of the deposits: hot spots with cs far away from Fukushima (200 km? 300km?)are on the ground where it rained and where concentrated stormwater have "cleaned" the roofs (leaking downpipes).
    by Olivier 6/7/2011 12:05:27 PM

  • Labor Ministry inspects Fukushima plant

    Labor ministry officials have conducted onsite inspections at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, to investigate why 2 workers were exposed to excessive levels of radiation.

    A team of 4 inspectors arrived at the plant on Tuesday afternoon to check working conditions and interview safety control managers.

    The probe followed revelations by the Tokyo Electric Power Company that the 2 workers were exposed to over 250 millisieverts of radiation -- an elevated emergency limit introduced by the government after the nuclear crisis began.

    The 2 men were on duty in the central control rooms of reactors No.3 and 4.

    They weren't wearing protective masks when reactor No.1 was hit by a hydrogen explosion, one day after the March 11th quake and tsunami.

    The health and labor ministry plans to instruct TEPCO to improve conditions, if Tuesday's inspections turn up problems with workers' safety management.

    Tuesday, June 07, 2011 14:03 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 6/7/2011 12:09:37 PM

  • More hydrogen produced than TEPCO's estimate

    Japan's nuclear safety agency says about 800 to 1,000 kilograms of hydrogen was produced in each of 3 reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant soon after the March 11th earthquake.

    The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency studied data provided by Tokyo Electric Power Company last month.

    The agency says about 1,000 kilograms of hydrogen was produced at the No. 1 reactor when the fuel rods began to be exposed 2 hours after the quake and the metallic fuel containers oxidized one hour later.

    The same phenomenon took place at the No. 3 reactor some 43 hours after the quake, resulting in the production of 1,000 kilograms of hydrogen.

    Hydrogen explosions blew the top off the No. 1 and 3 reactor buildings.

    A smaller explosion at the No. 2 reactor damaged the suppression pool. The agency has not determined the cause of the blast, but calculates that about 800 kilograms of hydrogen was formed there 77 hours after the quake when fuel rods were damaged.

    The agency's calculations are 1.3 to 2.3 times more than TEPCO's original estimate.

    The agency says the hydrogen is likely to have damaged the reactor buildings and containment vessels.

    Tuesday, June 07, 2011 05:40 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 6/7/2011 12:12:08 PM

  • strange, tepco seems not able to calculate correctly. i doubt that NISA can, either.
    by Edano 6/7/2011 12:13:40 PM

  • Japan to separate nuclear bodies

    The Japanese government will restructure its nuclear-related organizations to clarify roles and responsibilities in the event of a nuclear disaster.

    NHK has obtained a draft of a report that the government plans to submit to the IAEA Ministerial Conference on Nuclear Safety later this month.

    The report says the government will make the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, the country's nuclear regulator, independent from the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry.

    The report also says that Tokyo Electric Power Company should improve the design of its nuclear plants to ensure that cooling can be carried out in the event of a serious accident.

    The height of the storage pools for spent nuclear fuel in the troubled Fukushima Daichi plant has hampered efforts to cool the reactors.

    The report also says that the government will carry out a study on nuclear safety, with the help of the international community, to identify ways to strengthen global nuclear safety.

    The government's nuclear disaster taskforce will review the draft report on Tuesday.

    Tuesday, June 07, 2011 05:40 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 6/7/2011 12:15:01 PM

  • Gov't says nuclear regulatory system failed to act swiftly in crisis

    TOKYO, June 7, Kyodo

    The Japanese government said Tuesday in a report to be submitted to the International Atomic Energy Agency that the country's nuclear regulatory system had failed to deal swiftly with the continuing crisis at the Fukushima power plant and that it would separate its nuclear safety agency from the industry ministry.

    The report compiled for an upcoming IAEA nuclear safety meeting in Vienna later this month also highlighted that the country was not fully prepared for severe accidents that challenge safety systems at a level much higher than expected, including the insufficient communication seen between the government and the plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co.

    ''We are taking very seriously the fact...that consistent preparation for severe accidents was insufficient. In light of the lessons learned from the accident, Japan has recognized that a fundamental revision of its nuclear safety preparedness and response is inevitable,'' the government task force dealing with the nuclear disaster said in an outline of the report.
    english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 6/7/2011 12:23:20 PM

  • @Edano I need to sleep you ok till elaine gets back?
    by Angie 6/7/2011 12:24:43 PM

  • @Angie : yep i have 90 min till work.
    by Edano 6/7/2011 12:25:17 PM

  • @Edano Thank you! mark should be on soon anyway! Have a good day!
    by Angie 6/7/2011 12:27:09 PM

  • Death sentence to stand for Hiroshima killer of foster father, wife english.kyodonews.jp
    huuuu, they have death sentence in japan ?
    by Edano 6/7/2011 12:27:36 PM

  • @Angie sleep well.
    by Edano 6/7/2011 12:27:43 PM

  • ‘The media is a mouthpiece for Tepco’ Toyohiro Akiyama (below) is a former TBS TV Washington bureau chief. He was later selected for Russian astronaut training in a deal between TBS and the old Soviet Union..... One reason was the repeated news of cesium dispersed in the atmosphere. This meant damaged fuel rods. That news was being broadcast by 2:30 p.m. on March 12.

    Another was my experience visiting the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant in 1982 when I was a TBS correspondent. During the accident in 1979, engineers released radioactive steam into the atmosphere. I was sure that the Japanese government would do the same.

    Also, the chief cabinet secretary (Yukio Edano) kept announcing that the core was not damaged. He repeated it so many times that I began to suspect he was hiding information. Though the TV pundits said it would be OK, I couldn’t ignore the possibility of a cover-ups when I recalled earlier cover-ups by the Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco). no1.fccj.ne.jp
    by Majj 6/7/2011 12:29:17 PM

  • Heartbreaking evacuations as Fukushima's nuclear fallout spreads Japan has doubled its estimate of the amount of radiation spewed out by the Fukushima nuclear plant in the week after the crisis began. It comes after confirmation that plutonium has been found outside the facility for the first time.

    Even before these revelations Japanese authorities were urging residents living just outside the Fukushima no-go zone to leave. Thousands are now packing up and evacuating, fearing radiation in soil and the atmosphere could lead to health problems, especially in children. www.abc.net.au
    by Majj 6/7/2011 12:33:44 PM

  • @Edano This is the second time I have seen this referenced, " sea-borne storage tank hauled away some 10,000 tons in the middle of the month" www.pressherald.com Have you all seen anything saying the filled the megafloat and hauled it away? Where'd it go? What water did they put in there, 5&6, or hot stuff from 1-4?
    by RBeaner 6/7/2011 12:44:27 PM

  • @RBeaner The last I heard was the megafloat being moved to Daiichi. Not a peep since that I have seen. Also no word where they are going to take it when it leaves...
    by lillymunster 6/7/2011 12:45:45 PM

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