Japan Earthquake

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Ah look this twet is validated different subject but it seems somebody has used university to publish-
Published in the Town, Koriyama City, "the better the head exposed to radioactivity" t demonstration article called, → article was written using fake names without permission of the editor of the university presidents Town-
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I think it worth documenting this increase in social activity but please shout if you would rather I didnt
by elainekirk 6/15/2011 11:36:34 AM

@dean needless to say it varies. Saying "I'm/we're sorry" is very easy in Japan, easier than bragging. So it is in part a social custom, but of course it can sometimes come across as deeply felt. So tone and context are everything. But in this case, everyone knows it is required, so most people see it as obligatory.
by bo edited by bo 6/15/2011 11:36:57 AM

@elainekirk, well I like it, since it is in my research area.
by bo edited by bo 6/15/2011 11:39:00 AM

@bo Apparently the sokai-ya are busy..."One such group is said to have dispatched more than 30 workers to the stricken nuclear power station in Fukushima to work on disposal of contaminated debris. Each worker carries a Geiger counter to measure and records the levels of radiation. The group's aim, of course, is to threaten Tokyo Electric Power Co., the operator of the nuclear station, and win compensatory money by proving that these workers have were over-exposed to radiation."
search.japantimes.co.jp
by Reed 6/15/2011 11:40:20 AM

Doh! ty
by bo 6/15/2011 11:43:47 AM

by Reed 6/15/2011 11:49:55 AM

The Energy Debate: Coal Vs. Nuclear
www.sciencedaily.com
"As America struggles down the road toward a coherent energy policy that focuses on a higher degree of self-reliance, policymakers face numerous issues and realities. These include: the finite supply and environmental impact of fossil fuels, the feasibility and costs to implement a widespread switch to renewable energy sources, and the variables that lead to consumers' preferences for particular types of power generation."
by Reed 6/15/2011 11:58:39 AM

Morning all, any significant news stories to add to the morning news post for the site? I have a bunch from last night to go up.
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:00:04 PM

@dean On apologies, as you can imagine it varies, like bo said. My impression, for what it's worth, is that in certain rare(ish) circumstances there can be a passive aggressive element to an apology (not unique to Japan). For instance, if somebody wrongs another person but then apologises the onus is on the wronged party to accept. Sounds fair enough, except everyone involved might know that the apology is blatantly insincere. But still the wronged party must accept, even though it might be the last thing they want to do. If they don't accept then that can be seen as a bigger misdeed than the one being 'apologised' for. Holding out for a sincere apology can be seen as very poor behaviour indeed. Thus a mayor in Japan failing to accept a TEPCO apology, or an evacuee refusing to acknowledge some TEPCO bowing, is strong stuff indeed.
by Will 6/15/2011 12:01:20 PM

Okinawa’s Fukushima Connection: Nuclear Workers at Risk: japanfocus.org
by bo 6/15/2011 12:01:57 PM

@Reed, I would like to see a change in NRC to ERC.. Energy Regulatory Commission to regulate all power sources up to and including permits to coal mine or drill for NG etc.
by dean 6/15/2011 12:02:46 PM

@dean who does the other energy fields fall under do you know
by fitter 6/15/2011 12:03:55 PM

ty Will, about the only thing I hear apologizing for in USA lately is politicians saying I'm sorry for some sex scandal thing.. it's sad..
by dean 6/15/2011 12:04:52 PM

@dean gm. do you know if the NPP also fall under EPA???
by fitter 6/15/2011 12:05:31 PM

@Dean how would I look up any alerts or actions done by the NRC in the last 24 hrs? Hoping you know where they hide them on their site?
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:05:37 PM

good question fitter and deserving of some research, coal fired plants seem to get alot of EPA or state environmental air quality departments for the stack releases. other than that, probably general building codes etc.
by dean 6/15/2011 12:06:13 PM

@dean thats what I was thinking... they might be better controlled under those The Nrc is not impressing me!!
by fitter 6/15/2011 12:07:22 PM

@dean Good morning. That would be a powerhouse (pardon the pun) second only to the Pentagon.
by Reed 6/15/2011 12:08:43 PM

yes fitter...EPA has their tentacles out to almost every industry, unfortunately not the way I would like to see and, if you hear the GOP discuss it.. they believe they want the EPA to back off on requirements because it forces more cost on corporations and companies and reduces profits which they link to employment. ie: in the rough example. stop bogging down companies with REQUIREMENTS to protect the environment and let those companies go.

by dean 6/15/2011 12:08:51 PM

you are all keeping me busy tweeting these links I hope veenie is sleeping , at @nancy have you got some simply info pages you can post and I will copy over to simplyinfo twitter?
by elainekirk 6/15/2011 12:08:58 PM

@dean I see more controls, (that are implamented by plants) that are the cause of EPA ans FDA... most of the plants we work at are under the FDA... and its very intense
by fitter 6/15/2011 12:09:23 PM

true Reed, but it would ring in true accounting for energy sources and perhaps yield safer operations for all segments of energy
by dean 6/15/2011 12:09:42 PM

@elainekirk I have a news roundup to do here in a few. Mostly good links from last night. Don't have anything else ready to post unless someone has something they want me to write up and post.
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:10:08 PM

Ft. Calhoun is looking pretty flooded media.syracuse.com
by lillymunster via Media.syracuse 6/15/2011 12:13:04 PM

lilly, on the nrc site look for the section where you can sign up for email alerts, recently did that and receive notices on the gmail.com account. it would be nice to try to get those notices posted to the simplyinfo.org and then have then delete after a certain period.. so every one can see what is being sent in. We could try to get all of the utility company reportings to the NRC with their multitiered reporting system, or the notices sent to utilities by the NRC.

by dean 6/15/2011 12:13:33 PM

@nancy round up will be great
@bo@will who/what/where is shinakya??
by elainekirk 6/15/2011 12:13:46 PM

@nancy any updates coming from calhoun looking at that you would expect them to be keeping public informed
by elainekirk 6/15/2011 12:14:46 PM

www.sourcewatch.org @all, pretty good information on coal fired in this link.
by dean 6/15/2011 12:17:06 PM

@dean I think simply info should have a section that post "NPP" reports from around the world and stays there.... poeple do not relize how many "hits" there are... I did'nt until I started looking at surry.... people are not intense in the drilling of info... but simple list... ***multive, eaesy looking format come clear... it would be interesting to see "just how many reported items have happened sicnce march 13 ?
by fitter 6/15/2011 12:19:21 PM

I think the energy production in the USA is heading for a train wreck, on the one hand coal fired plants are backing off on new starts because of climate change issues and nuclear is backing off due to fukushima thus introducing a big problem brewing which all other forms of energy sources, including gas fired plants cannot pick up.
by dean 6/15/2011 12:21:58 PM

@elainekirk not fluent at all myself, but to me it sounds like the shortened, common version of "must"
by bo 6/15/2011 12:22:22 PM

@dean can you clairify if the NRC recomendations are "required" or just "recommened" can they inforce the recomendations
by fitter 6/15/2011 12:22:26 PM

@ Edano it seems John Raymont turned nukem from a criminal group into a (clean ?) radioactive waste management. but what did he do from 1988-1990 ?

just to report that my search hasn't been succesfull. Apart from the faulty year count in Raymonts CV:

Enertech was founded August 1987 (formerly the Nuclear Group of Paul-Munroe Hydraulics, Inc.)

John Raymont
Vice President of Operations
ENERTECH
June 1984 – December 1987 (3 years 7 months)

I searched for Paul-Munroe, the firm that sold his patented Snoozle or what whas that name?
There was very little to be found, and nothing at all associating him with that firm.

I found an interesting thread in a forum, but as there is no connections to any person it is no more than sort of corporate disaster tourism

forums.hydraulicspneumatics.com

Paul-Monroe Hydraulics was bought by Prudential Life Insurance Co. some years ago. They put an individual in charge who took over the direction of my father's (and Ted Monroe and Bob Maple's) company. This person had enough diplomas (masters & phds) from Stanford and Harvard to wallpaper his office. Within three years, the company was driven into the ground under this person's direction. Since then, what was once a great organization has been sold again and again. What is left of it..who knows? - Stuart H Paul (Bill Paul's son).
by nls 6/15/2011 12:22:57 PM

from what I see on the NRC, they have multilevel requirements which are issued to the utilities, some for them to decide and some that if not done by some time frame will have fines imposed (usually not large enough) or withdrawing of a liscense.
by dean 6/15/2011 12:23:52 PM

@dean is the NRC meeting today or tommarrow do you know
by fitter 6/15/2011 12:25:39 PM

@dean I looked on the NRC page for the current event reports. Someone is claiming Ft. Calhoun is at a "level 4 emergency" by the NRC but I can find nothing to back up this claim on the NRC website or local media in NE.
www.nrc.gov
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:25:44 PM

@fitter, as you can imagine.. NRC has been in business for a long time and are deeply entrenched and are a bureaucratic organization which I think should be revised to meeting the 21st century needs for energy

by dean 6/15/2011 12:26:42 PM

@lilly .. lets get a couple of us to bird dog that for Calhoun.. I will look for things now.
by dean 6/15/2011 12:27:27 PM

@lillymunster dean would know, but when the surry NPP scram I believe they had 48 hours to report... happened on friday or sat... but report did not show until monday moring... DEAN????
by fitter 6/15/2011 12:28:06 PM

@Dean, thanks. Can you tell me the difference between a level _ emergency and a level _ disaster (the blank being a number)?
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:29:26 PM

docs.google.com here is a link for a recent NRC citation on the COOPER power plant
by dean 6/15/2011 12:29:34 PM

@dean I agree totally... thats why I think they desrve a spot on simplly info... there seems to be a lot of "lower level" incidents that you never hear about... but they could have become higher catigories
by fitter 6/15/2011 12:30:10 PM

@dean link doesn't work. :-)
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:30:23 PM

@lillymunster @ dean If you scroll back to about 1am Reed Posted an interview with Gunderson re the situation A Ft Calhoun
by ch 6/15/2011 12:31:56 PM