ty ch, will look at that in a bit
by dean 6/15/2011 12:32:46 PM
@fitter I think it is a good idea. A bit out of scope of Fuku but we are seeing how this all starts becoming a tangled web.
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:32:48 PM
@elainekirk That Hawaii News article is what I am fact checking. He has a couple of things in there I think are wrong and over hyped or distorted. The guy writing it is completely paranoid that the world is going to end.
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:34:21 PM
@nancy ok I go find other lol
by elainekirk 6/15/2011 12:34:50 PM
Emergency - Disaster - Accident I am assuming these are different terms related to the NRC and I am seeing people using them interchangably
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:35:19 PM
www.nrc.gov good link to look at different NRC reports associated with events.
by dean 6/15/2011 12:36:14 PM
@fitter No, I meant since it isn't specifically Fukushima as far as posting it on the website. But that it IS relevant and should go on the site because we are seeing how interconnected this all is.
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:38:47 PM
www.nrc.gov NRC issued Notices of Violation for Severity Level I, II, or III violations; Notices of Violation associated with inspection findings that the Significance Determination Process categorizes as White, Yellow, or Red; civil penalties; and orders
significant safety issues. also mentions
by dean 6/15/2011 12:39:57 PM
@nancy that is why it is simplyinfo surely we must give the bigger picture or we would be guilty of stigmatising Japan by default ? I say put it in to give a global perspective #justmyopinion
by elainekirk 6/15/2011 12:41:07 PM
@fitter I'm still on my first coffee. ;-)
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:41:31 PM
@dean what is the diff between an emergency, disaster and accident I am assuming the NRC defines these as quite different events
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:42:30 PM
www.nrc.gov NRC security orders
by dean 6/15/2011 12:43:01 PM
@elainekirk That is what I meant, put it on global perspective or something flagging it as wider scope.
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:43:12 PM
do you have another agency bar the regulatory one ?
by elainekirk 6/15/2011 12:43:24 PM
looking all this up fitter as I'm not intimately familiar with all the NRC requirements
by dean 6/15/2011 12:44:01 PM
I'm trying to find some chart that breaks all this NRC stuff down that makes sense,, it's like I said.. bureaucratic organization with years of development and details written by lawyers.. whewwwww
by dean 6/15/2011 12:45:39 PM
pbadupws.nrc.gov @lilly,,, this document contains information on how NRC regulates with some nice figures with arrows... I like those..
by dean 6/15/2011 12:48:37 PM
Are you asking about Notification of Unusual Event, Alert, Site Area Emergency, General Emergency?
by Markfm 6/15/2011 12:48:47 PM
indeed fitter,,,
by dean 6/15/2011 12:49:01 PM
@Markfm yes.
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:49:01 PM
markfm.. thats part of it.. rules for the utilities in reporting and classifying events... then on the NRC side
by dean 6/15/2011 12:49:38 PM
I am not finding a "level 4" anything on the NRC site related to Calhoun. Just the unusual event for the flooding and for the fire
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:50:04 PM
typically the utility must notify of these events and they classify the event in accordance with their emergency procedure guidelines,,
by dean 6/15/2011 12:50:12 PM
Perhaps
www.nrc.gov That's "The NRC Incident Response Plan (IRP), NUREG-0728, Revision 4"
by Markfm 6/15/2011 12:50:22 PM
The second primary bus driver, Fukushima, workers put their tuberculosis
According to TEPCO, the 40 men were infected with cooperating companies. Found that tuberculosis is suspected of corporate health. I received a thorough examination in hospital, it was found that the TB on June 15.
translate.google.comby elainekirk 6/15/2011 12:54:48 PM
@DT It is flooded all around it. Had a minor fire last week. Some questionable reports of emergencies or disasters that we are trying to track down anything to confirm. So far no official anything confirming any further emergency so far. Trying to make sure.
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:55:03 PM
that's not exactly what I was looking for markfm but does contain alot of reporting and cross interfacing... if you look at all the reporting to NRC, state, county, city , and on and on... when a real accident happens that pulls all this into play it's like a big bowl of spaghetti and trying to find where all the links are,, ,it's mind boggling, and in an extreme plant emergency just tangles things up with dealing and focusing on the real issue.. protect the fuel
by dean 6/15/2011 12:55:08 PM
My understanding was an "unusual event" was the lowest level for accidents. Past that do you get into level 1 etc. for bigger accidents.
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:57:11 PM
Gov't calls TEPCO radiation exposure standards 'overly optimistic'
mdn.mainichi.jpby Markfm 6/15/2011 12:57:56 PM
@DT The water is getting higher and it is a big concern about how much water will end up there. There are some rather um, less based on facts youtube or websites seem to be trying to blow things out of proportion.
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 12:58:12 PM
www.nrc.gov some background @ all on emergency preparedness at nuclear plants
by dean 6/15/2011 12:59:06 PM
Listening to Gundersen's interview all these sites were referencing. There is no mention of a Level 4 anything. All he talks about is the flooding concerns and the fire incident. I am not finding anything to back up these "level 4 accident" claims.
by lillymunster 6/15/2011 1:00:42 PM
1,400 Fukushima plant workers waiting for radiation exposure results
mdn.mainichi.jpby Markfm 6/15/2011 1:01:22 PM
"On June 6, 2011, the Fort Calhoun pressurized water nuclear reactor 20 miles north of Omaha, Nebraska entered emergency status due to imminent flooding from the Missouri River. A day later, there was an electrical fire requiring plant evacuation.
Then, on June 8th, NRC event reports confirmed the fire resulted in the loss of cooling for the reactor's spent fuel pool. The discussion includes specific details of the technical failures at Fort Calhoun, the risks of coolant loss at overcrowded "spent" fuel pools, and the national hazards of nuclear facilities along the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers, and other water sites during the current period of floods and climate change."
by dean 6/15/2011 1:01:43 PM
@lillymunster I don't understand how that is out of scope, but so much of the other info is not... could you please explain...by fitter 6/15/2011 12:36:24 PM
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