Japan Earthquake

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I would like to see the other board open again, and hope you come to that decision. I, too, am frustrated with the fighting, but am willing to look beyond it, so that the work can continue to shed light on this ongoing crisis in Japan. For some, that means the focus on earthquakes, haarp, contamination, ties to money/profit, current news, etc... Everyone knows there is a variety of interests. I would be at a loss without the board, it is comforting to know there are people giving their time to Japan and exploring their questions. I will take the bad with the good.
by Mid Valley 6/16/2011 6:18:49 PM

@lillymunster , I found the reference to the quake strength. This Mainichi Daily News post with the title "No. 1 reactor pressure vessel likely damaged immediately after quake" published online May 26, 2011, reports that “at the reactor, the magnitude 9.0 quake registered an intensity smaller than envisaged under its quake-resistance design.” TEPCO said they suspect, however, that the temblor directly damaged the RPV and/or accessory piping: mdn.mainichi.jp
by Peter Melzer 6/16/2011 6:23:04 PM

@elainekirk understood.
by Panserbjorne9 6/16/2011 6:23:45 PM

The government has done next to nothing for areas destroyed by the Great East Japan Earthquake, says Tadashi Yanai, chairman and president of Fast Retailing Co., Operator of the Uniqlo fast fashion chain.
Question: How would you evaluate the Japanese government's handling of the rebuilding process in the aftermath of the March 11 quake?

Answer: I don't think the government has done a good job. Rubble has not been cleared in some of the affected areas, and relief money donated to support these areas has not even reached the evacuees, three months after the quake. www.asahi.com
by elainekirk 6/16/2011 6:25:16 PM

@panser ty :)
by elainekirk 6/16/2011 6:25:49 PM

@lillymunster , did not Tepco intend to shut unit 1 down for good this year? Did they retrofit the other units?
by Peter Melzer 6/16/2011 6:26:49 PM

@Peter Melzer there were also workers who said there was white smoke at #1 right after the quake.
by lillymunster 6/16/2011 6:26:59 PM

@Peter Melzer #3 had the new shroud. #4 was being worked on. I think 1-2 were also done. I would have to go dig to find the actual schedule, not sure where I saved it. I remember reading something that they were considering running MOX in 1 at some point. That is disturbing.
by lillymunster 6/16/2011 6:28:29 PM

by Edano via Upload.wikimedia.org 6/16/2011 6:28:33 PM

@edano that is a great graphic
by elainekirk 6/16/2011 6:30:48 PM

@Edano interesting it goes so high when 4 explodes but not when 3 does?
by lillymunster 6/16/2011 6:32:34 PM

@all would someone please tell me who the "mods" are... and who has controlling acesss to both boards... and please do not delete this post! thank you
by fitter 6/16/2011 6:32:38 PM

@lillymunster , I recall unit 1 was slated for shutdown in April. It may have been for overhaul. Don't ask me where I read this. The issue to keep in mind is whether any upgrades were done to improve earthquake resistance.
by Peter Melzer 6/16/2011 6:32:46 PM

@elainekirk : here is more valuable graphic, if you want to "rip" it. :) fukushima.grs.de
by Edano 6/16/2011 6:35:05 PM

@Peter Melzer TEPCO was pretty good about doing press releases about "good news". The major earthquake improvements if they were done were not publicized. We have all those TEPCO documents over on the Simply Info site. I can't find the link.
by lillymunster 6/16/2011 6:35:07 PM

" just admit that the unmod board is moderated and for further discussions it would be in everybody's best interest to answer the questions put forth this morning over there as it seem like the 25 rules of disinformation are in full effect. If this is not resolved the mods need to step down" BY LETHBRIDGEAN(who is stuck in mod).
by Maureen Burke 6/16/2011 6:35:44 PM

@Peter, found it. houseoffoust.com That is the listing of the TEPCO documents we saved.
by lillymunster 6/16/2011 6:36:30 PM

Workers tackle highly radioactive water www.gpb.org
by lillymunster 6/16/2011 6:37:59 PM

Al Jazeera is now on the case again
AJEnglish Al Jazeera English
We're already seeing radioactive Strontium at 250x the allowable limits in the #Fukushima #water table. bit.ly
by Veenie 6/16/2011 6:38:35 PM

@lillymunster , thanks I'll check them.
by Peter Melzer 6/16/2011 6:38:41 PM

@Edano, can you try to post the link to the page that first graphic was on. I can't link out through the image. I wanted to try to grab an uncompressed copy of the image
by lillymunster 6/16/2011 6:39:31 PM

@Veenie I put a news roundup on the web site this morning if you want to tweet any of it.
by lillymunster 6/16/2011 6:39:55 PM

@Peter Melzer Something else I noticed. When they built 5 & 6 they have extra outside beams going up the buildings. Like they knew by then the outer buildings at 1-4 were unstable.
by lillymunster 6/16/2011 6:40:41 PM

@lillymunster de.wikipedia.org about the "wallmann-ventil" (german venting valve).
by Edano edited by Edano 6/16/2011 6:41:10 PM

@lillymunster ?? Weird, it didn't push that automatically ?.Elaine , did you see this ?
by Veenie 6/16/2011 6:42:55 PM

upload.wikimedia.org english version commons.wikimedia.org
by Edano edited by Edano 6/16/2011 6:43:49 PM

@veenie I have been out :) just tweeted it though :)
by elainekirk 6/16/2011 6:44:58 PM

@elainekirk Pheww )).glad i waited, saw the eniromental one ......thanks )
by Veenie 6/16/2011 6:45:34 PM

@Edano Are these the break through valves that have a membrane that bursts at a certain pressure?
by lillymunster 6/16/2011 6:49:28 PM

@lillymunster those are call repture disk
by fitter 6/16/2011 6:52:40 PM

@lillymunster : no. manually operated valves with rad filters.
by Edano 6/16/2011 6:52:57 PM

they were retrofitted after chernobyl.
by Edano 6/16/2011 6:54:00 PM

@Edano Same thing they put on all the old GE reactors?
by lillymunster 6/16/2011 6:54:18 PM

@lillymunster to clairifty the answer I was refering to is nancy discription, not the wiki article as it was not in english so I don't knwo what it said
by fitter 6/16/2011 6:54:55 PM

@lillymunster : yes i think so, though i don't know the name of the valves in english. in germany they are known as "wallmann ventil". further construction details (in english): sacre.web.psi.ch
by Edano edited by Edano 6/16/2011 6:56:59 PM

@lillymunster : as i can read in the pdf, there are also automatic variants of the valve.
by Edano edited by Edano 6/16/2011 7:00:35 PM

they catalyze hydrogen into water without explosion.
by Edano 6/16/2011 7:01:43 PM

This bill in the US could be a big change in nuclear safety. I have to wonder if all the worry about the power plants in NE could be turned into support for this bill along with concerns about Fukushima and safety. www.powergenworldwide.com
by lillymunster 6/16/2011 7:08:38 PM

* We have provided a Japanese press release version of the instruction
document received from NISA. However, at this time we have reserved the
right to not provide an English version due to potential
misunderstandings that may arise from an inaccurate rendering of the
original Japanese text. www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 6/16/2011 7:21:51 PM

Ok, i am "just posting aboe 5.0 EQ's.....so this should be LITTLE.
Anchorage, AL 5.2
by Veenie 6/16/2011 7:23:34 PM

@all test
/* Going to delete this in a minute. Your comments should be coming through OK. */
by fitter edited by Markfm 6/16/2011 7:40:31 PM

Prof. Akira Hiroshi Koide, fuel has reached groundwater: "- (Unit 1 nuclear power plant Fukushima Daiichi, about detected Strontium 90 times more than 200 standards from groundwater collected on May 18 in the vicinity of No. 2) Looking at this concentration, the melting of nuclear fuel rods Not only can penetrate the containment pressure vessel, it is understood that reached the groundwater. The water will cool over this way is impossible. We need a major shift in the accident process." hiroakikoide.wordpress.com
by Bobby1 6/16/2011 7:40:40 PM

Thursday June 16 2011, 19:00:14 UTC 44 minutes ago near the east coast of Honshu, Japan 5.1 22.6 near tokyo
by Edano 6/16/2011 7:49:33 PM

@bobby a major shift , I think they are playing 'lets look busy' until the expected aftershock in the hope it all ends up in the ocean
by elainekirk 6/16/2011 7:50:01 PM