
@majj wsj are lagging i hear it started leaking again
by elainekirk 6/17/2011 5:42:05 PM

Good paper on the debate and divide over radiation risks to health
hnn.usby lillymunster 6/17/2011 5:43:09 PM

@nancy have you read jo's link below
by elainekirk 6/17/2011 5:44:44 PM

www.popsci.com for a good read on ionizing radiation damange to the body. I look at it as what is the minimum ionizing radiation that the body can update and still maintain the capability for the body to repair damage and that seems to be the hold even level that is some times published,, ie" minimum exposure for people in USA.. and as we know by now.. the younger children or unborns are the worst affected because they are still growning and cells are splitting etc and become more vunerable.
by dean 6/17/2011 5:44:57 PM

in addition they deal with probabilities and statistical numbers for contracting cancers but can't accurately predict x number of extra radiation will result in x numbers of cancer... they do know from experience the affects of higher levels of accute doses,, causing definate signs of sickness, vomitting, etc and more pronounced cellular breakdown etc.
by dean 6/17/2011 5:48:46 PM

time for my VA appointment.. be back later.. nice nice day ..
by dean 6/17/2011 5:48:58 PM

@dean later
by elainekirk 6/17/2011 5:50:21 PM

@mark so need more info then, I will keep an eye on the tweets
by elainekirk 6/17/2011 5:58:25 PM

Something that may compound confusion on the health impacts from Chernobyl. Many of the workers and people from the area that contracted cancer were denied any compensation or benefits under the claim that they did not know for sure that their exposure caused the cancer and it could have been something else that caused it. So if a study took the official numbers based on those receiving compensation the numbers would be very off. We may see the same thing in Japan where people with claims get brushed off in order to avoid paying compensation. So where the sample of people is coming from may matter.
by lillymunster 6/17/2011 6:04:42 PM

Tepco getting millions in loans fron life insurance companies some of which are major tepco shareholders
translate.google.com so that to my mind casts doubt on whether any health effects will be properly documented
by elainekirk 6/17/2011 6:29:06 PM

@radioguy it is all liability evasion plain and simple if we dont make them evac we dont have to pay and they must have decided it is cheaper to treat the health conditions
by elainekirk 6/17/2011 6:40:01 PM

@pedro I fully understand that but would they make the same decision if they were informed ? I think I can only accept that somebody has made a choice if they have made the decision based on full information.
by elainekirk 6/17/2011 6:52:05 PM

@elainekirk If someone decides to evacuate will they have any assistance? Can they go to a shelter? Will they get any compensation or help with their basic needs? Will they get relocation assistance? "Ya might wanna leave" without any support would be insane. Not everyone has the resources to up and relocate.
by lillymunster 6/17/2011 6:54:10 PM

I will have to find out @nancy but the last batch got offered space on a floor at a designated evac centre , nothing else that I know of
by elainekirk 6/17/2011 6:56:32 PM

@radioguy it is tepco they are in charge so to speak the accident is their responsibility in law although the law is going to be changed soon on iaea recs because too late in the day it is realised that tepco dictating the disaster response is baaad in the extreme
by elainekirk 6/17/2011 7:00:57 PM

@radioguy tepco could advise the goj to force an evac but if they didnt and goj did it then I dont know how those people would claim any compensation which is probably why it is just an advisory you cannot force people to give everything up and get no support
by elainekirk 6/17/2011 7:03:17 PM

@radioguy they couldnt make a movie without tepco's cooperation it would be litigation hell , has the oil disaster brought to you by bp been muted for the movies I think that would not happen for the same reasons
by elainekirk 6/17/2011 7:06:45 PM

@pedro I think the nuclear compensation act was passed into law in 63 I will check but goj do not share liability unless it is an extrodinary natural disaster and this wasnt, tepco applied for it to be recognised as such but were turned down
by elainekirk 6/17/2011 7:08:48 PM

@Pedro Jesus I think in this case your right about liability. Due to the over cozy relationship and how the govt. oversight didn't really do the job I think there will be lawsuits against the govt. You really never know who will win though.
@Radioguy, a couple of people have noticed conflicts between the TEPCO cam and the TBS cam. There are images of the crane moving around on TBS and it will be somewhere it should be in plain view of the TEPCO cam but nobody sees it on TEPCO. I have noticed video that looks oddly familiar during the day. It makes me wonder if they are pulling a BP and rerunning footage.
by lillymunster 6/17/2011 7:12:25 PM

TEPCO is also considering adoption of a full face mask covering the corresponding glasses.Food restriction, and also to check the mounting depth of education and the need for protection.(Eisuke Sasaki)
www.asahi.comthat tepco decide if the workers are adquately protected is beyond belief but within the law
by elainekirk 6/17/2011 7:22:03 PM

www.oecd-nea.orgAct on Compensation for Nuclear Damage
by elainekirk 6/17/2011 7:33:32 PM

@veenie they also leave responsibility for the safety training of contracted workers to the contracters - liability dontcha know
by elainekirk 6/17/2011 7:37:02 PM

tepco has said to the media that they are not responsible for contractor employees on site. Anyone but the core TEPCO staff is a contractor of some sort. So anyone who gets ill, injured or dies is going to be on the contractor's insurance or legal liability. I have to wonder if these small contractors know this?
by lillymunster 6/17/2011 7:39:31 PM

@Veenie first I have heard
by lillymunster 6/17/2011 7:55:38 PM

@veenie great find I have two other docs the iaea released I posted a few hrs ago i will go find them
by elainekirk 6/17/2011 8:02:47 PM

2 IAEA Fukushima docs have been de-restricted
IAEA Activities in Response to the
Fukushima Accident
www.iaea.orgTechnical cooperation project in support of a
marine benchmark study on the possible impact
of the Fukushima radioactive releases in the
Asia-Pacific Region
www.iaea.orgby elainekirk 6/17/2011 8:04:33 PM