Japan Earthquake

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@hudebnik clearly it is just one more bullshit line thrown at people who don't understand. If's the same as them saying, well, at Fukushima the buildings were painted blue, all of our reactors are painted green.
by bo 6/25/2011 8:32:30 AM

@elainekirk there will be significant blowback to any efforts to open the doors. This may partly be a way of saying, "we should allow Chinese and Koreans in to do the dirty work of rebuilding."
by bo 6/25/2011 8:33:37 AM

@bo oh but korea is riddled with foot and mouth doncha know? no you didnt know? I doubt Korea did either there is definately trouble afoot
by elainekirk 6/25/2011 8:35:54 AM

I know I keep putting my foot in my mouth, but I didn't know it was contagious. Doh!
by bo 6/25/2011 8:37:34 AM

@bo you are right it is going to cause bother a bit silly to announce it before creating homes and jobs for their own people a kick in the teeth infact ...keeping to the foot in mouth theme
by elainekirk 6/25/2011 8:39:22 AM

@hudebnik you are quiet are you still here? I am putting the kettle on :)
by elainekirk 6/25/2011 8:41:14 AM

Don't know if everyone has seen Adam Curtis' BBC documentary series called Pandora's Box, but the last episode is called "A is for Atom," and is about the creation of the myth of safety in the nuclear power industry. Very informative historical piece. Available in many size files, but here is a low res, easy to stream one: ia700202.us.archive.org
by bo 6/25/2011 8:44:39 AM

@elaine - thanks I need some coffee! I'm not really quiet, just multitasking between changing wifi networks as I move around the house and skypeing with daughter in NZ
by hudebnik 6/25/2011 8:47:24 AM

@hudebnik i must learn how to skype I am on a commitee that has to meet every 3months and with members scattered around Scotland there is talk of having some meetings via skype to solve the travel nightmare @bo ty
by elainekirk 6/25/2011 8:51:42 AM

@elaine - there's nothing to learn, you just install it and follow your nose
by hudebnik 6/25/2011 8:53:25 AM

@bo - wow whoever thought nucl
ear power was so simple, to misquote Homer S.
by hudebnik 6/25/2011 8:57:27 AM

@hudebnik, Homer Simpson--philosopher king
by bo 6/25/2011 8:58:09 AM

@bo - and so clearly ahead of his time!
by hudebnik 6/25/2011 8:58:43 AM

my daughter is a factoid machine and when people say "how do you know that!" she always says "I learnt it from the Simpsons"
by elainekirk 6/25/2011 8:59:41 AM

@bo - re. the nuclear plants close to the San Andreas fault, this is from USGS:
The San Francisco earthquake and fire of April 18, 1906, took about 700 lives and caused millions of dollars worth of damage in California from Eureka southward to Salinas and beyond. The earthquake was felt as far away as Oregon and central Nevada. The 1906 earthquake, which has been estimated at a magnitude 8.3 on the Richter Scale, caused intensities as high as XI on the Modified Mercalli Scale. Surface offsets occurred along a 250- mile length of the fault from San Juan Bautista north past Point Arena and offshore to Cape Mendocino.
pubs.usgs.gov
Mag. 8.3 is more than 30x a mag.7
by hudebnik 6/25/2011 9:00:35 AM

blimey I am kinda getting the impression that the opening of the doors on immigration is going to dominate this weekend
by elainekirk 6/25/2011 9:03:02 AM

@hudebnik gulp
by elainekirk 6/25/2011 9:04:32 AM

@hudebnik: "nuculer, it's pronounced nuculer," Homer J Simpson
by bo 6/25/2011 9:04:59 AM

@bo - that's what comes of learning English from George W!
by hudebnik 6/25/2011 9:05:58 AM

"The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur," George W. Bush
by bo 6/25/2011 9:07:14 AM

@bo - LOL!
by hudebnik 6/25/2011 9:07:35 AM

Oh I so miss him!
by hudebnik 6/25/2011 9:07:51 AM

"Kanzler Schröder makes me laugh, and who make me laugh, is my friend."
by Edano 6/25/2011 9:11:29 AM

"those who are not enemies of our enemnies, are our enemies."
by Edano 6/25/2011 9:13:01 AM

@Edano good morning how are you today :)
by elainekirk 6/25/2011 9:26:14 AM

Journey back with me to a time when General Electric made us all feel at ease about nuclear power.
by bo 6/25/2011 9:26:36 AM

@elainekirk need some tea to wake up.
by Edano 6/25/2011 9:26:46 AM

@edano kettle on
by elainekirk 6/25/2011 9:28:17 AM

"There is no doubt in my mind when history was written, the final page will say: Victory was achieved by the United States of America for the good of the world."
by Edano 6/25/2011 9:38:34 AM

I'm off to get some limes in order to make proper margaritas. Will be back, and in a better mood, in a bit. (limes are not easy to find in Japan)
by bo 6/25/2011 9:40:17 AM

"My trip to Asia begins here in Japan for an important reason. It begins here because for a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the great and enduring alliances of modern times. From that alliance has come an era of peace in the Pacific."
by Edano 6/25/2011 9:42:21 AM

Atomic Gardens, the Biotechnology of the Past, Can Teach Lessons About the Future of Farming "One look at the wedge-shaped rows of plants and anyone could tell the circular garden was not grown under normal conditions. Plants sown in concentric circles displayed wildly different vitality and viability." www.popsci.com
by Ralph Unger 6/25/2011 9:44:17 AM

@Ralph Unger it is amazing how writers can normalise the abnormal with but a few words
by elainekirk 6/25/2011 9:49:37 AM

I did not read the article I posted, but what they did was put a gamma source on a rod so it could be retracted into the ground so they could tend the garden.
by Ralph Unger 6/25/2011 9:51:18 AM

Without having irradiated gardeners...
by Ralph Unger 6/25/2011 9:54:12 AM

Reports on Fukushima reactors made public

Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency has made public on its website documents revealing what happened at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant after the March 11th earthquake and tsunami.

The agency on Friday posted on its website Tokyo Electric Power Company's reports, which were submitted to the agency between March 11th and May 31st. The documents totaled 11,000 pages.

It says the government used these documents as reference material when it compiled a report on the nuclear crisis, which was submitted earlier this month to the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Documents submitted to the government were handwritten up to March 19th, during which the Fukushima Daiichi plant was left without electricity.

Goshi Hosono, the prime minister's advisor on the Fukushima accident, spoke about the documents in a news conference on Friday.

He said he has insisted on their release since they include an account of how the plant operator came to use seawater to cool down reactors.

Hosono also said their release was delayed due to the volume of the reports.

The agency says documents submitted after June 1st will also be made available on its website.

Saturday, June 25, 2011 08:56 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 6/25/2011 9:57:05 AM

TEPCO unable to gauge No.2 reactor water level

The operator of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant says it still cannot obtain accurate data on the water level and pressure of the Number 2 reactor. It says a provisional measuring device installed earlier this week is not operating properly.

Tokyo Electric Power Company believes that readings by the original device are incorrect due to damage suffered in the March disaster.

Workers at the utility company entered the Number 2 reactor building and installed the provisional gauge on Wednesday. The company initially planned to have the gauge begin providing data on Thursday.

But it says as of Saturday, the device is not yet working properly.

TEPCO says this is because the temperature near the reactor containment vessel is so high that water inside the device's pipes has evaporated.

Fuel meltdowns are believed to have occurred at the Number 1 through Number 3 reactors, leading to a possibility that there is little water left inside the Number 2 reactor.

Accurate measurement of the water level is essential for ensuring stable cooling of the reactor.

The utility is struggling to find ways to activate the device.

Saturday, June 25, 2011 13:21 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 6/25/2011 9:58:24 AM

@Edano they have published a pic of the nitrogen system for #2 www.tepco.co.jp 2nd link
by elainekirk 6/25/2011 10:10:23 AM

has the tepco cam been turned off ?
by elainekirk 6/25/2011 10:37:36 AM

@elainekirk i see it
by Edano 6/25/2011 10:38:29 AM

@elainekirk Nope, is up here. www.tepco.co.jp
by estacion 6/25/2011 10:38:29 AM

is there anybody in uk can see it?

by elainekirk 6/25/2011 10:39:41 AM

tepco say they have a problem video here japanese with translated news report translate.google.com
by elainekirk 6/25/2011 11:24:01 AM

my money is on there being groundwater and mud mixed in with that radioactive soup translate.google.com
by elainekirk 6/25/2011 11:26:02 AM

English report and video on #2 but my windows media player is playing silly buglers so I cant see vid :( www3.nhk.or.jp
by elainekirk 6/25/2011 11:29:17 AM