Japan Earthquake

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Big bunch of Ft. Calhoun images from 28th. www.houseoffoust.com
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 12:51:58 AM

@Elaine it is ENTIRELY Bo's fault. :)
by Panserbjorne9 6/30/2011 12:55:08 AM

@lillymunster great I will tweet
by Elaine Kirk 6/30/2011 12:57:37 AM

@Panserbjorne9 but of course :)
by Elaine Kirk 6/30/2011 12:57:55 AM

Whoever wants Google+ invite, please go to other board
by Veenie 6/30/2011 1:11:16 AM

I did some playing with Google Earth. There are building models and photos added in by various people. Will need to play around with it more to determine what it can do. The fuku area of the map.
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 1:15:47 AM

@lillymunster oooo I will try that tomoro not put google earth on this comp yet
by Elaine Kirk 6/30/2011 1:18:26 AM

Curious note that cesium is highly explosive in water : www.youtube.com
by Ian 6/30/2011 1:31:46 AM

@Ian @Ian Yikes! So if the cesium products produced by the fuel rods do the exact same thing then the creation of cesium creates hydrogen?

Paging someone with a better science background than me! :-)
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 1:35:45 AM

@all I'm off to pedal to work. See you in a bit.
by bo 6/30/2011 1:36:06 AM

M5.4 quake jolts Nagano Pref., injuring 7

TOKYO, June 30, Kyodo

A strong earthquake with a preliminary magnitude of 5.4 jolted Nagano Prefecture and its vicinity in central Japan on Thursday morning, injuring at least seven people, the Japan Meteorological Agency said.

The 8:16 a.m. quake measured upper 5 on the Japanese seismic scale of 7 in Matsumoto in the prefecture and 4 in Yamagata, also in Nagano, according to the agency.

Seven people in their 40s to 70s were injured, according to firefighters in Matsumoto. Among them, a woman in her 70s is suspected of suffering a bone fracture. No tsunami warning was issued.
by Veenie 6/30/2011 1:37:28 AM

Hope and reconstruction search.japantimes.co.jp
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 1:42:27 AM

@Ian well found !
by Elaine Kirk 6/30/2011 1:47:06 AM

By pure happenstance I ran into that video. The question is if the cesium from fuel is in the right configuration to explode. Obviously cesium usually rests in peace in SFPs. But can you have sudden increases in the level and concentration of cesium? In the video example, I think they're dropping in like a cesium nugget, solid or liquid. But that's not specified exactly what the cesium used is like. Consider also the relatively extreme levels of cesium measured in SFP3 vs the other SFPs.
by Ian 6/30/2011 1:58:42 AM

Dewalt: Why a thinking person should question the NRC vtdigger.org
by Panserbjorne9 6/30/2011 2:00:53 AM

@Ian the cesium released from reactors is compound with other elements, eg cesiomiodid. this will not explode in water. pure cesium is a metal that will not be emitted.
by Edano edited by Edano 6/30/2011 2:01:33 AM

Treating radioactive water the key at Fukushima plant, TEPCO chief says www.asahi.com
by Panserbjorne9 6/30/2011 2:03:19 AM

Power restrictions may strain businesses in disaster area www.asahi.com
by Panserbjorne9 6/30/2011 2:04:42 AM

Report From Tokyo: Living With Radiation www.huffingtonpost.com
by Panserbjorne9 6/30/2011 2:06:51 AM

natrium for example explodes in water, but when you put NaCl (normal cooking salt) in water, it will not explode. imagine the cooking accidents all over the world.
by Edano edited by Edano 6/30/2011 2:07:13 AM

@Edano, thanks, that's what I expected. It is interesting that they said the cesium produces hydrogen gas on contact with water. Is cesium part of how hydrogen in from reactors and SFPs is produced?
by Ian 6/30/2011 2:11:33 AM

@Ian : no. it's the fuel cladding (zirkonium) that produces hydrogen. cesium in exploding, metal form is not produced.
by Edano 6/30/2011 2:14:43 AM

natrium and cesium and some other elements cause hydrogen explosions when in contact with water, but this is not what happens in the pools / reactors.
by Edano 6/30/2011 2:17:46 AM

@Ian - loved that video! I realize we will not see cesium nuggets hitting the water. But, as a wild child, I loved my explosive science experiments.
by Lurking 6/30/2011 2:23:36 AM

Back in the saddle all.
by bo 6/30/2011 2:24:24 AM

Hi bo!
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 2:26:12 AM

@lillymunster - great Calhoun photos on House of Foust
by Lurking 6/30/2011 2:28:36 AM

@Edano, thanks again! Yeah, I can't find any hydrogen-contributory factor other than zirconium cladding. So it seems the presence of zirconium was the deciding factor in the existence of the explosions.
by Ian 6/30/2011 2:34:17 AM

@Lurking thanks. Lucked out on finding that video.
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 2:34:59 AM

@Lurking BTW, I think Majj posted it early this morning..
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 2:35:31 AM

No, what a minute, another possible hydrogen contributor is radiolysis.
by Ian 6/30/2011 2:36:40 AM

@Lillymunster, sometimes it's nice to have them posted more than once. My day job gets in the way of my search for info!
by Lurking 6/30/2011 2:40:08 AM

Radiolysis is suggested as a theory for hydrogen build up in Unit 4, it's (if I recall) were high enough gamma radiation can disassociate H2O into H2 and O. See Professor Sekimura's report page 52 dels.nas.edu for presentation of radiolysis as a causal thesis for Unit 4's explosion.
by Ian 6/30/2011 2:41:38 AM

@lillymunster. I just stumbled on CNN iReports. This may be a good place to publish original content from www.SimplyInfo.org. ireport.cnn.com What kind of content is welcome here?
CNN iReport is a place to post your news: great stories of events near you, or your own take on issues making headlines. News comes in all shapes and sizes, and the idea here at iReport is that the community will shape what counts as news, but there are a few things every iReport should have in common:
It's yours. Your iReports should be made up of your own words and images, or those that you have the rights to use.
It's true. iReports should be about real events, or real opinions on events. It's not news if you make it up.
It's new and interesting. The best iReports teach us something new or start a fresh discussion.
by Mid Valley 6/30/2011 2:46:35 AM

Page 52 of the DOE report attached to the end of this document pbadupws.nrc.gov also cites radiolysis as a possible but unexamined causal mechanism of the mysterious U4 explosion(s).
by Ian 6/30/2011 2:48:09 AM

Digital globe took a picture of Ft. Calhoun www.digitalglobe.com
by lillymunster via Digitalglobe 6/30/2011 2:53:51 AM

time for rest.... @lilly with all the talk on isotopes.. how about the new one TEPCO discovered,,, 'NOTELLIUM"...
by dean 6/30/2011 2:54:56 AM

The Japanese Times online, June 30 Hose leak again halts water unit search.japantimes.co.jp
by Mid Valley 6/30/2011 2:55:18 AM

@Mid Valley Good idea. I will look into it and see what we can or can't submit over there. Might get us some larger attention. :-)
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 2:55:21 AM

@dean LOL. They seem to have a large surplus of that one. :-)
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 2:56:07 AM

@lillymunster I saw a blog reference houseoffoust today:
A Response To The Recent NRC Letter Regarding Fukushima
houseoffoust. com/group/ ?p=1326
by Mid Valley 6/30/2011 2:57:38 AM

@Mid Valley Great! It had two pingbacks within hours of it being posted to the group site. I'm going to get the domain references fixed when we upgrade the blog interface. So they don't reference back to my foust domain.
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 2:59:08 AM

Animal Friends Nigita shelter is at capacity. They can't rescue more pets unless they find foster families or another no-kill shelter to assist. www.facebook.com
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 3:03:26 AM

@lillymunster I loved seeing the stats you posted here on the number of hits and I was especially happy to hear the info is reaching those in japan!
by Mid Valley 6/30/2011 3:04:27 AM

@All - I really like the new group site. I'm still feeling a bit "homeless" since my forum shut down. Thanks for letting me stop by!
by Lurking 6/30/2011 3:04:46 AM