Japan Earthquake

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@Lurking. this is a good home!
by Mid Valley 6/30/2011 3:05:41 AM

@Mid Valley I was really glad to see the number of visits from Japan. Sometimes getting a site to gain traction takes a bit of time. Veenie and Elaine tweeting is really helping get things moving.
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 3:07:12 AM

@Mid Valley, thanks! I'm starting to figure it out over here. Still working on the cut/paste of the article and link thing. It usually takes me several posts to get it out.
by Lurking 6/30/2011 3:07:43 AM

@Lurking . no worries!
by Mid Valley 6/30/2011 3:08:45 AM

If someone wants an easy thing to do to pitch in, re-tweeting what Veenie and Elaine are pushing through the SimplyInfo1 twitter account helps greatly with visibility.
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 3:09:02 AM

A colleague in Tokyo writes: "The 'flyjin' phenomena is really interesting. I was approached yesterday on the street in Moto Azabu by a flyer-wielding stylist at Gold Salon Tokyo, catering to "foreign hair" and advertising itself as "100% Australian owned, all stylists English-fluent". He gave me a card for a 75% off on any service and told me that recently his salon has been in trouble because the number of foreigners in Azabu/Roppongi has dropped so low. He's having trouble staying afloat financially himself, he says."

FYI, "flyjin" means a gaijin (foreigner) who is moving away from Japan
by bo 6/30/2011 3:09:54 AM

@Lillymunster, I don't have a twitter account but I link your site wherever else I can.
by Lurking 6/30/2011 3:12:45 AM

@Lurking that works too. Anything that is getting people to the information. Hopefully they find something good, pass it on and continue to come back for more news and info.
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 3:14:13 AM

@lilymunster....good suggestion.....we could really learn from the Ron Paul folks from the last election cycle about how to gain the most leverage online in a context of relative media un-cooperativeness. would also like to see our brethern and sistern who know Japanese do more to stir things up on that side of the equation for radical system "change", be it commenting on the Japanese articles in the comments section, or posting things on Twitter, or what not. I just set up a Twitter account this week for the first time, and I could use a tutorial in how to "re-tweet", though I am sure it is fairly elementary, and there are perhaps other lurkers on here as well who would embrace that challenge to feel like we are doing a little something. orry to spew my two cents on the news and techie board, which I am exceedingly greatful for, and generally don't do, but it has helped, especially Dean and Peter elzer's feedback on the Harrisonburg Beta radiation spikes (and anyone else who could weigh in on that), as I have very dear to me family there.
by wrshpr 6/30/2011 3:18:09 AM

@lillymunster Looking at that Ft. Calhoun picture you have to ask "Banks of the Missouri River? What banks?" I know you know, but since you can't necessarily tell without a program now that the Missouri has escaped its banks, that white tank near the top sits right on the bank of the river.
by RadioGuy 6/30/2011 3:19:29 AM

Sorry to ask, but how's the situation in New Mexico (Los Alamios)? I have some folks there. Would like to know 'cause they don't have that much information about the seriousness of the situation.
by Pedro Jesus 6/30/2011 3:22:09 AM

@RadioGuy yes, top right is a smaller white tank and a rectangle building facing the river. I did notice that the newer areas of the plant, the administration building and the dry cask storage are higher up and still dry. Just like at Fukushima, reactors 5 & 6 have outside vertical columns to brace the buildings and are on a much higher piece of ground. You can tell that the things built in the 60's and early 70's are too low and things built more into the 80's are better protected.
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 3:24:45 AM

@lillymunster I guess it's not like it's very easy to move a reactor once it's used, eh?
by RadioGuy 6/30/2011 3:26:43 AM

@Pedro Jesus It may be up to 90,000 acres, 3% contained
by RadioGuy 6/30/2011 3:27:13 AM

All from a huge backburn to protect the lab. Town and lab both evacuated.
by RadioGuy 6/30/2011 3:27:39 AM

I have one comment on the whole Calhoun thing. I am in construction and my company got an official "write up" from OSHA over a nicked cored on a skill saw. But yet, it is ok to store nuclear waste in tents? Something isn't right here!
by Lurking 6/30/2011 3:27:41 AM

@wrshpr when you read a message on twitter there should be some small icons below the message, if you hold your mouse pointer over the message the icons will show up. One is "retweet" just hit that and it will resend it from you.
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 3:27:41 AM

@RadioGuy What about the Lab? Is it secured?
by Pedro Jesus 6/30/2011 3:28:21 AM

@Pedro Jesus It depends on your definition. 20,000 to 30,000 55-gal drums of "low level plutonium contaminated waste) are at ground level, stacked two high under tarps. The weapons are secure, they say.
by RadioGuy 6/30/2011 3:30:00 AM

@Lurking The scary thing is this is an inprovement at Calhoun. The NRC made them improve their flood defenses. If they had not done so the whole place would be flooded inside now. We are getting flooding on the Missouri to some extent every year now and likely will continue. They really need to shut down Calhoun for good. It is too low, very old and is excess capacity for the service area.
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 3:30:15 AM

@Pedro Jesus Here's a good incident page. inciweb.org
by RadioGuy 6/30/2011 3:30:34 AM

@RadioGuy I'll check it out. My folks are about 200Km away but still... it's incredible how they don't have information about the situation.
by Pedro Jesus 6/30/2011 3:32:12 AM

@Pedro Jesus As a personal aside, I watched them decommission and clean up Rocky Flats by Denver. That spoiled any belief I might have that everything is neatly battened down.
by RadioGuy 6/30/2011 3:32:39 AM

Another thing of note on Calhoun, a serious lack of security. It appears they have some sort of small guard shack on one road going in. Multiple other roads going in and no real defenses. Well now they have a really big moat so they have that going for them...
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 3:36:40 AM

@RadioGuy , what hit home for me when I saw Rock Flats is its proximity to Denver.
by Peter Melzer 6/30/2011 3:36:49 AM

@Lillymunster, my whole problem with the world of nuclear is the lack of long term storage. Not one country has the answer. It's just too many years of long term commitment!
by Lurking 6/30/2011 3:37:09 AM

@Pedro Jesus www.lasg.org is an anti-nuke group with coverage and also includes a look at what's stored there.
by RadioGuy 6/30/2011 3:37:18 AM

@RadioGuy Thanks for all that info. I'll pass it through to my mates.
by Pedro Jesus 6/30/2011 3:38:00 AM

@Lurking the fuel cycle is a huge problem that the costs of dealing with are not rolled into the profits of the plant, they socialize that cost. Dean posted this article earlier, it talks about the uranium reserves and the used fuel issues. www.bestthinking.com
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 3:38:57 AM

@Peter Melzer Mind-boggling isn't it? When they decommissioned it, they had to locate 1,100 pounds of plutonium that had been lost in the ductwork, gloveboxes, toilet stalls, who the heck knows where you can lose 1,100 lb of pretty much anything.
by RadioGuy 6/30/2011 3:39:06 AM

I have to go get some sleep. See everyone tomorrow!
by lillymunster 6/30/2011 3:39:29 AM

@lillymunster Ciao
by Pedro Jesus 6/30/2011 3:39:57 AM

@lillymunster Nite.
by RadioGuy 6/30/2011 3:40:06 AM

@Lillymunster Goodnight and thanks for the info!
by Lurking 6/30/2011 3:40:18 AM

@RadioGuy , well plutonium is heavy. But as much as I know there is unaccounted-for inventory in all National Laboratories. I almost wrote Lavatories.

by Peter Melzer 6/30/2011 3:43:25 AM

fire briefing from the SF Reporter site, which is also a good source for updates. ( http://www.sfreporter.com/santafe/ )
by RadioGuy 6/30/2011 3:46:04 AM

@M.I.A....nice to weigh in around a quarter after 2 George Gibb time with your lurking self.....@Dean, I wouldn't worry too much about terrorists getting ahold of MOX fuel. The Al-Quada types haven't learned yet to fly first class to avoid a lot of their headaches, and they are too busy (probably) trying to smuggle the Ug99 fungus over to destroy our vulnerable GMO wheat. I also can't help but wonder if it might be efficient to have the folks that know Japanese, i.e., Edano, Bo, etc. to translate the tweets in that language or maybe it would be more streamlined to have Veenie and Elaine's tweets run through Google translate, and then Bo and Edano could look it over and correct any gross shortcomings that are inevitable through that medium, and then I (though not the best person because of technical inefficiencies) or some other willing persons could tweet and re-tweet them. Also, Elaine, I have never told you what great work you (and of course countless others, but you are especially good under the gun in my opinion for someone with what I perceive as a relatively "non-nuclear" background) you have done on this site, so consider yourself commended for whatever its worth, not that its worth much, but it is still good to hear that from time to time. @Radio Guy, never took you for much of a "pray-er", but as someone who holds such a connection to the Celestial Bodies, I suppose its natural....I concur, it is time to pray....Praise be to God/Allah that the evacuation zone around Calhoun wasn't genuine, because that is how it all starts in terms of Fuku USA on steroids....you think Tepco is incompetent....I have to believe that Calhoun is a Divine "Shot across the Bow" to warn us of what is to come if we don't correct, so I don't see it turning into anything drastic....yet....but Oh, God, Forbid...Sorry, i'll go back to the other board where I belong now, though I would still watch here and like to here from other feedback (maybe one of your charts, radio Guy) for Harrisonburg, VA regarding the very, very dramatic RadNet Beta radiation spikes which occured earlier this month and the generally high Background Beta. Does anyone know has it always been, or is it a bit Fuku-artificialized....I could check myself if RadNet has archives, but I have never seen an EPA site deliniating thatr.
by wrshpr 6/30/2011 3:53:08 AM

@all Just popping in to say "Hello!"
by smoss 6/30/2011 3:55:13 AM

Oh, and in response to an earlier post, Lawrence livermore DEFINITELY knows what butters its bread, and it still VERY much all about the nuclear. They are clients of mine, and I mostly deal with mid-level management (think the "fire chief"), but I would say that those who really pull the strings, unfortunately, at this point, are very much seeing the Lab as a nuclear facility with a green emerging veneer, albeit, a thin one. That being said, I am not utterly conspiratorial....yes cover ups occur because of the system and its attachment to wealth/mammon, but the people aren;t evil, even the higher-ups, beliueve me, they are sincerly good much like everyone else in a position of power unbeset by really difficult circumstances which cause a lot of pressure to form one's charachter, and they do give a pretty long leash to the green guys and gals there because they feel its noble, but there is no illusion that will take anything over anytime soon...it is just good branding and PR...period. Sorry to make you take my word for that, as I have no links or corroborative evidence, but I have travelled to Alameda County often to meet with them, and if anyone else hsa had close contact there, they would likely not refute most of my position. Sorry that's all my rambling...its just its seems like the news cycle is accelerating darnit, and not in a Good way!
by wrshpr 6/30/2011 4:00:24 AM

@wrshpr Bobby1 was looking at those. I'm still trying to figure out what to make of the huge noble gas numbers from the first days. One thing the data dumps say: we're starting to hear the other shoes drop one by one. I just wonder if it's a centipede or a millipede...
by RadioGuy 6/30/2011 4:02:01 AM

Here's the link to the Los Alamos National Laboratory's photostream: www.flickr.com
by RadioGuy 6/30/2011 4:08:46 AM

@all Playing the devil's advocate...Flooding: Ft. Calhoun and Cooper atomicpowerreview.blogspot.com
by smoss 6/30/2011 4:13:13 AM

@wrshpr , the other EPA monitoring station in VA is in Lynchburg. If it is a regional effect, you should see the spikes there as well. CTBTO station #75 is located in VA as well. But in order to find the measurements, I have to resort to a site in Germany: www.bfs.de . They have been reporting earlier during the crisis, but not recently.
by Peter Melzer 6/30/2011 4:18:15 AM

Anyone watching the TBS cam from Daiichi ? HUGE CRANE
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by Veenie 6/30/2011 4:23:19 AM

This is an (odd) offer from the New York Times knowledge network. Join us for an up-to-the-minute Webcast about developments at Japan's damaged Fukushima Daichi nuclear reactor and the accident's effect on the nuclear... July 19, cost is $65 www.youtube.com
by Mid Valley 6/30/2011 4:45:54 AM