Japan Earthquake

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looks like the top handle of one Ian,,, that photo has one other interesting thing.. the twisted top of the steel liner in the canal and .. the absense of concrete outside the steel liner.. like it's been blown off...
by dean 7/1/2011 4:37:40 PM

@dean but dean they are filled with magic fairy dust which will hold them firm
by Elaine Kirk 7/1/2011 4:38:07 PM

@Ian I cannot think of anything else it just screams assembly handle
by Elaine Kirk 7/1/2011 4:39:33 PM

lh4.googleusercontent.com
@edano I don't know if yo are around edano but tepco are adding to their system :) now they have something else to leak link to before and after systems www.tepco.co.jp
by Elaine Kirk via Lh4.googleusercontent edited by elainekirk 7/1/2011 4:40:47 PM

@Dean, thanks! What's the twisted top of the steel liner in the canal? The large twisted object closest to the camera in the SFP3 video? Do we have before images? What's amazing about the handle is its location is about 3ft from the top of the pool, when it should be about 30ft below the top. This would seem to be proof a forceful upward dislocation.
by Ian 7/1/2011 4:40:52 PM

@Elaine, my feeling too, but I'm not very familiar with NPP content.
by Ian 7/1/2011 4:42:37 PM

Also, if you look closely at the handle, you'll se what appear to be the squared edge of a fuel rack around the handle, with its corner close to the handle. The rack would be tilted if that's what it is. www.youtube.com
by Ian 7/1/2011 4:45:42 PM

@dean I will go through that list when i have quiet time it looks very interesting
by elainekirk 7/1/2011 4:48:07 PM

@Ian Or a forceful drop that pushed the bottom up.
by RadioGuy 7/1/2011 4:55:39 PM

@RadioGuy, drop of what? Wall debris dropping in should just push interior contents down.
by Ian 7/1/2011 5:01:51 PM

@Majj They truly believe that if they say it hasn't happened then it hasn't.
Saw your article today fantastic! well written!!
by elainekirk 7/1/2011 5:23:42 PM

May I suggest any mod to invite joniver to post her/his post on the other board here, too?
"Some of the emails between the British government and nuclear powers .
A fine example of government's cozy ties with corporate industry..."
by estacion 7/1/2011 5:30:10 PM

The best display of SPF's I've seen : www.nytimes.com
by Ian 7/1/2011 5:37:16 PM

Revealed: British government's plan to play down Fukushima
Internal emails seen by Guardian show PR campaign was launched to protect UK nuclear plans after tsunami in Japan.
British government officials approached nuclear companies to draw up a co-ordinated public relations strategy to play down the Fukushima nuclear accident just two days after the earthquake and tsunami in Japan and before the extent of the radiation leak was known.
Internal emails seen by the Guardian show how the business and energy departments worked closely behind the scenes with the multinational companies EDF Energy, Areva and Westinghouse to try to ensure the accident did not derail their plans for a new generation of nuclear stations in the UK.

"This has the potential to set the nuclear industry back globally," wrote one official at the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills (BIS), whose name has been redacted. "We need to ensure the anti-nuclear chaps and chapesses do not gain ground on this. We need to occupy the territory and hold it. We really need to show the safety of nuclear."
More: www.guardian.co.uk
by joniver 7/1/2011 5:50:56 PM

Some of the emails between the British government and nuclear powers .
A fine example of government's cozy ties with corporate industry.
Whose side are they on?
www.guardian.co.uk
by joniver 7/1/2011 5:51:29 PM

Some of the emails between the British government and nuclear powers.
www.guardian.co.uk

Revealed: British government's plan to play down Fukushima
www.guardian.co.uk
by estacion 7/1/2011 5:58:08 PM

@estacion have a word with @lilly she should be back soon
by elainekirk 7/1/2011 6:19:01 PM

@elaine..here's a question I will bet you know from past discussions.... does SPENT fuel mean that all the the U235 is gone?
by dean 7/1/2011 6:21:01 PM

@dean no dean nop unless it has been there a very long time IMHO
by elainekirk 7/1/2011 6:32:48 PM

@estacion I love this bit in those emails:
"The explosion, whilst visually dramatic, was part of the safety design; the building has protected the reactor." But that was on the 13th (UK time), the 14th in Japan, and the reactor was already melted down by then, right?
by RadioGuy 7/1/2011 6:46:59 PM

back for a bit. Where are the emails that need saving?
by lillymunster 7/1/2011 6:52:03 PM

Is there a way to do that without saving each page separately?
by RadioGuy 7/1/2011 6:54:09 PM

@RadioGuy Yeah, wishful thinking, cristalball was dirty, everyone know hydrogen was there because Hinderburg farted. 8-0
by estacion 7/1/2011 6:55:45 PM

The accepted way seems to be to print it to PDF.
by RadioGuy 7/1/2011 6:56:36 PM

@estacion Did you notice the one three page document that is 100% redacted? Fun.
by RadioGuy 7/1/2011 7:02:10 PM

I found a way to do it, it will take a bit to grab them all but we should be able to put them into the image gallery files of the group site. :-)
by lillymunster 7/1/2011 7:05:27 PM

@RadioGuy , you do not wish to understand. As long as the corium smolders on the base mat, we are saved by the secondary containment by design. The design worked as intended. Nothing bad happened, good people. Nuke power is safe.
Only corium may have left the building already, dah!
by Peter Melzer 7/1/2011 7:06:52 PM

@estacion , " Hindenburg". Poor Graf Zeppelin! :)
by Peter Melzer 7/1/2011 7:08:52 PM

@RadioGuy You know, "Freedom of Information Right". :))
by estacion 7/1/2011 7:09:31 PM

What is the desired final product for those emails? Do we want them as individual items or together in a document like a pdf?
by lillymunster 7/1/2011 7:13:11 PM

@lillymunster which way would be most reader friendly?
by Elaine Kirk 7/1/2011 7:14:28 PM

@Peter Melzer Yes, and the design worked so well they let it work on R3 as well, where it also worked just as planned, but then they knocked holes in R2, R5 and R6 containments, maybe because they wanted to leave three outer buildings intact so it didn't look so bad. Perhaps they tried the design on R4 too, but since the explosion was overnight it never happened, but the design worked there, too.
by RadioGuy 7/1/2011 7:15:33 PM