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That document outlines that they do have regular ice vests. So the tshirts are featured why? I may have to go do some asking around and see if I get lucky and get an answer from someone with connections to workers.
by lillymunster 7/3/2011 12:43:52 AM

@lillymunster that would be good
by Elaine Kirk 7/3/2011 12:53:52 AM

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Tatsuhiko Kodama (PhD, System Bio&Med): 2-13Bq/liter cesium was found in breast milk of moms living in Fukushima. The level of cesium caused precancer by long term exposure, according to a report from Chernobyl.
by Elaine Kirk 7/3/2011 12:57:05 AM

TEPCO improves circulation cooling system

The operator of the troubled Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Plant says the reactor cooling system is now fully recycling its water.

Tokyo Electric Power Company said the system no longer requires fresh water input, and no contaminated water is being released.

Previously, the system required 2 to 3 tons of fresh water per hour.

Water recycling resumed on Saturday evening after being suspended while the plant's operator installed stronger piping to prevent leaks.

Tokyo Electric Power Company had switched off the plant's cooling system for a day and a half after a series of problems.

The operation started a week ago, but was twice halted because of leaks. A water-decontamination device in the system also had to be shut down due to human error.

TEPCO cited a lack of preparation due to the speed of installing the system, which consists of Japanese and foreign devices.

The utility has set a target of July 17th to complete the first stage of its plan to bring the facility under control.

Sunday, July 03, 2011 07:56 +0900 (JST)
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by Edano 7/3/2011 1:03:29 AM

@lillymunster only 620 vests at fuku and of those 350 in use impl they are just for their own also only 300 blower masks
the 130 parrafin vests in use at J-vllage is odd any ideas @edano?
by Elaine Kirk edited by elainekirk 7/3/2011 1:05:29 AM

@Edano which reactor would that be or are they saying all 3 or 4 with sfp's?
by Elaine Kirk 7/3/2011 1:06:54 AM

back.. hi to all
by dean 7/3/2011 1:07:36 AM

@dean hi dean
by elainekirk 7/3/2011 1:08:08 AM

@Elaine Kirk : in fact, i have never read about which reactor is operating with the wonder mashine.
by Edano 7/3/2011 1:08:41 AM

@Edano the ice pack on the spine surely that should be time limited?
by elainekirk 7/3/2011 1:08:53 AM

@elainekirk ice is too cold. better is cold water or ice spray.
by Edano 7/3/2011 1:09:56 AM

@Edano #I thought so ty
by elainekirk 7/3/2011 1:12:46 AM

when they talk about "ice packs", i don't think it is ice. it is only called ice pack.
by Edano 7/3/2011 1:12:53 AM

"Water (ice) has an unusually high enthalpy of fusion and a convenient melting temperature (one accessible by household freezers). Water also has a low molecular weight, so a kilogram of water contains a greater number of moles of water molecules. Since enthalpy of fusion is measured in units of kJ/mol, a larger number of moles per unit of substance multiplies its ability to absorb heat. Water ice isn't ideal for ice packs for various reasons, so additives to improve the properties of water are often used. " en.wikipedia.org
by Edano 7/3/2011 1:15:53 AM

@Edano they are the gel type packs, others described as parrafin
by lillymunster 7/3/2011 1:18:01 AM

freeze pack
by elainekirk 7/3/2011 1:19:13 AM

Interesting article from 2006 talking about Japan's energy conservation actions back then. www.guardian.co.uk
by lillymunster 7/3/2011 1:19:38 AM

@ elaine that looks like a make shift ice pack all taped on ..
by dean 7/3/2011 1:22:56 AM

image.rakuten.co.jp
global.rakuten.com english description 15-30 min action gracious and not reusable?
by elainekirk via Image.rakuten.co.jp 7/3/2011 1:23:07 AM

a crane working on teppicam
by Edano 7/3/2011 1:25:27 AM

They have 1000 single use ice packs for ???? men??
by elainekirk 7/3/2011 1:27:05 AM

@ Edano..is that some rodent laying on the ramp way ?
by dean 7/3/2011 1:27:15 AM

Photo gallery: TEPCO tries to make life bearable for workers at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant July 2, www.desdemonadespair.net Here are 17 photos, including the one just posted by @elainekirk
by Mid Valley 7/3/2011 1:28:01 AM

I wonder what they are doing with that crane.. doesn't seem to be any load on it when they go up there
by dean 7/3/2011 1:28:51 AM

@dean preparing the magical curtain pillars
by Edano 7/3/2011 1:30:07 AM

@elainekirk if they are gel packs they are refreezable. They could be like the unreusable first aid packs. We have some we take camping etc. that you break something inside and the reaction makes it freeze. Those won't refreeze.
by lillymunster 7/3/2011 1:31:52 AM

@ Edano yes I wonder if the curtain will have a perfect picture of a reactor building painted on it..
by dean 7/3/2011 1:32:08 AM

@lillymunster I cant find any but the single use with that pack design
by elainekirk 7/3/2011 1:36:17 AM

@lillymunster the breakables are chemically activated and ruined when used.
by Edano 7/3/2011 1:36:51 AM

in any case, it needs a lot of energy to cool the vests. so they have to carry battery packs as well.
by Edano 7/3/2011 1:37:31 AM

Cesium in Tokyo water monitoring.tokyo-eiken.go.jp
by elainekirk 7/3/2011 1:46:25 AM

@Edano.. I do hope the covering over unit 1 works and allows better control of the activity levels
by dean 7/3/2011 1:46:47 AM

@dean do you wonder why #1 why not 3 ot 2 or 4
by elainekirk 7/3/2011 1:47:31 AM

@elaine that is a good question, perhaps it's the best from a debris standpoing,,, or perhaps their concerns over the state of the damage to the reactor and containment..
by dean 7/3/2011 1:50:46 AM

Lots of SPF shots mixed in with this:
by Deb 7/3/2011 1:51:58 AM

Radiation Poisoning Fukushima Workers Speak Out TEPCO General Electric Scandal
by Deb 7/3/2011 1:57:01 AM

@dean or perhaps it is the easiest/cheaperst? have they done anything yet that points to long term solutions? minimal vests /ice packs/masks by 4th month cleaning water system that needs new filters too often a shroud on the smallest reactor are they just playing a game and hoping that the next aftershock will open that fault and do the job for them?
by elainekirk 7/3/2011 1:58:50 AM

@Deb bad isnt it but good they are starting to speak out
by elainekirk 7/3/2011 2:02:33 AM

@elainekirk i agree fully, they have not even touched the "core" of the problem. but i guess they just don't know a better way. we shall see if their work is useful or not ....
by Edano 7/3/2011 2:06:16 AM

@elainekirk Agree, it is good they are starting to speak out.
by deb 7/3/2011 2:07:25 AM

@Edano I cant help thinking they must have got so much input and yet are just using ideas from their mates, look at that vest two breast pouches but a cooling pack ducktaped to the back!! any forethought would have had a pouch there
by elainekirk 7/3/2011 2:09:56 AM

the list of scenarios for each plant are so darn complex and time consuming then put all 4 plants together I would be overwhelmed with where to begin.
by dean 7/3/2011 2:11:42 AM

I still do not know the extent to which the foreign scholars in these types of accidents have been allowed to suggest things and/or had their ideas incorporated.. I would think Japan to some extent wants to solve this within ..
by dean 7/3/2011 2:14:00 AM

www.google.com new tepco president will put LNG (natural gas) at it's center of future sources for power plants.. interesting article..
by dean 7/3/2011 2:18:55 AM

Reposting links to a couple of excellent series from the reawakening press:
TEPCO: Will Someone Turn Off the Lights? www.theatlanticwire.com
Meltdown: What Really Happened at Fukushima? www.theatlanticwire.com
AP IMPACT: US nuke regulators weaken safety rules www.sfexaminer.com
AP IMPACT: Tritium leaks found at many nuke sites www.sfexaminer.com
AP IMPACT: NRC and industry rewrite nuke history www.sfexaminer.com
AP IMPACT: First 24 hours shaped Japan nuke crisis www.sfexaminer.com

It's sure nice to do a news search and see some more and more news sites on the story.
by RadioGuy 7/3/2011 2:19:39 AM