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Or was that some OTHER TEPCO fiasco... I can't keep them straight any more.by RadioGuy 7/3/2011 10:41:48 PM
@RadioGuy "human error" they say and come away with it. but in fact this is stone age technology in the hands of bandits.by Edano 7/3/2011 10:42:12 PM
@lillymunster, Lol! Yup! And the "school" the author cites as affiliation is a informal lecture group at a retirement community. Make-believe stuff like that passed off as fact pisses me off!by Ian 7/3/2011 10:42:36 PM
@Peter Melzer very well done. So do you know if those fire hose lines go directly into the reactor? I wonder if even they were making a direct water feed to the fuel or not.
Would you be ok with the essay being reprinted on the group site if we link back to your site?by lillymunster 7/3/2011 10:42:42 PM- @Ian Me too. I expected maybe some sort of community college or workshop program for some sort of industry that requires continuing ed credits. I got a good giggle out of seeing the first thing on google being the retirement home activity program as the source of this guy's "school".by lillymunster 7/3/2011 10:44:28 PM
- New nuke minister inspects radiation monitoring
Japan's new nuclear crisis minister has inspected the monitoring of radiation levels in the evacuation zone around the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
Goshi Hosono on Sunday visited Iitate Village in Fukushima Prefecture, more than 30 kilometers northwest of the troubled plant.
Hosono, who assumed the new position just last week, was guided to see how the Science Ministry carries out the survey.
He saw the figure was 13.9 microsieverts per hour, far exceeding the legal limit forcing the evacuation of local residents.
He was told that the data are collected at one meter above ground level. He asked officials to keep as accurate a record as possible for the safety of the people.
Hosono said after the inspection that the collected data is also important to create a framework for finding ways to remove radioactive materials in the future.
He said he hopes the close monitoring will continue, adding that he wants to consider the possibility of having people return home as soon as possible.
Sunday, July 03, 2011 16:58 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano 7/3/2011 10:44:31 PM - Hoses at Fukushima to be checked
Tokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO, is set to replace leaky plastic hoses that brought cooling to a halt at the Number 5 reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.
TEPCO is now searching for potential leaks and will replace these hoses. A large number of the polyvinyl chloride hoses are being used in the reactor's heat removal system.
TEPCO found water leaking from a large crack in a hose around the outlet of a temporary pump sending seawater into the Number 5 reactor's cooling system on Sunday. The cooling system was stopped for 3-and-a-half hours to replace the hose.
The operator says the hose cracked because it was bent at an acute angle and was under pressure.
The company fears other hoses may crack and will search for possible trouble and replace them.
TEPCO adds that no replacement is required for hoses that transfer highly radioactive water because they are not bent at extreme angles.
Monday, July 04, 2011 06:15 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano 7/3/2011 10:45:17 PM - @Edano I was reading some tweets of the workers at the plant. They were complaining about TEPCO constantly blaming the workers for everything. There was also a mention about the lack of equipment etc.by lillymunster 7/3/2011 10:45:45 PM
- "TEPCO adds that no replacement is required for hoses that transfer highly radioactive water because they are not bent at extreme angles." !!!! crude tepco logic !!!!by Edano 7/3/2011 10:46:53 PM
- Any thoughts on what we're seeing in the red circle here : www.youtube.com Fuel racks?by Ian 7/3/2011 10:47:03 PM
- @Peter Melzer Excellent. This part is crucial:
If the RCIC design at the Fukushima Daiichi reactors was the same as that mandated in the US, the inferior seismic rating of the parts of the RCIC loop downstream of the pump may have contributed significantly to the inability to provide adequate coolant to units 2 and 3 after the earthquake.
That brings me back to the statements in Jake's articles from the workers, talking about all the damaged piping after the quake, and before they even knew there was a tsunami coming.by RadioGuy 7/3/2011 10:48:20 PM - @Edano according to the diagram they are bent at extreme angles. Sigh.by lillymunster 7/3/2011 10:50:24 PM
- @Peter Melzer Oh, the acknowledgement: This post would not have been impossible without the contributors to Japan Earthquake Live and the invaluable information on SimplyInfo.org.
Not impossible, just harder. :)by RadioGuy 7/3/2011 10:53:39 PM 
by George Gibb 7/3/2011 11:02:06 PM- @lillymunster shhh... you're not supposed to have diagrams. But then, you're a known purveyor of top secret documents. :)by RadioGuy 7/3/2011 11:02:49 PM
@Edano Michio Ishikawa estimated there was something like 0.37 petabecquerels of radioactivity in the cooling water. I wonder what damage this kind of radiation does to things like hoses and valves over time.by Bobby1 7/3/2011 11:03:16 PM
@lillymunster , I thought reading that they hooked these hoses into the residual heat remover. Where that is you can see on scheme 3-6 here: docs.google.com . From there it would flow into the main feedwater nozzle of the RPV.by Peter Melzer 7/3/2011 11:03:47 PM- @lillymunster : imagine, there was a big earthquake and tepco says: oh, we don't have to check the piping, because there are no extreme angles. oh wow !by Edano 7/3/2011 11:04:44 PM
- @Bobby1 : i guess all these pipes are ar least very stiff and easily breakable with the time. spröde we say in german.by Edano 7/3/2011 11:05:57 PM
- moreover, with salty water in them.by Edano 7/3/2011 11:06:48 PM
- @RadioGuy , my unintended pun! Double negations. Thanks, I'll fix it in a minute. @Nancy, of course you may reprint it on simplyinfo.by Peter Melzer 7/3/2011 11:07:01 PM
- @Peter Melzer Thanks, Will set it up to run tomorrow AM US time.by lillymunster 7/3/2011 11:07:49 PM
- @RadioGuy , ah fixed. I am grateful for lettng me know. Little things like that escape easily, when you are self-editing.by Peter Melzer 7/3/2011 11:09:42 PM
greetings to allby dean 7/3/2011 11:11:11 PM
interesting to look at kashiwazaki-Karwiya seismic acceleration data from Tepco for the 2007 quake
www.tepco.co.jpby elainekirk via Tepco.co.jp 7/3/2011 11:33:37 PM- @elainekirk Interesting. So this plant was over design basis with a smaller quake. I wish someone would point blank ask TEPCO why they didn't do any quake upgrades at Fukushima.by lillymunster 7/3/2011 11:43:06 PM
- nice find elaineby dean 7/3/2011 11:45:16 PM
- by George Gibb 7/3/2011 11:47:47 PM
- @George Gibb hey, Ian is famous! :-) Very cool.by lillymunster 7/3/2011 11:51:43 PM
- by George Gibb 7/3/2011 11:53:00 PM
- cool!by George Gibb 7/3/2011 11:53:13 PM
- we need ian's autograph now..by dean 7/3/2011 11:58:37 PM
- awesomelyawesomeby elainekirk 7/3/2011 11:59:02 PM
- @lilly I am desperately seeking I dont think they got any further than PR stuff after te kk quake though translate.google.comby elainekirk 7/4/2011 12:02:01 AM
Afternoon all! Just took a look at the Arnie clip. This Scribble and its contributors are awesome! Thanks!by LM 7/4/2011 12:02:02 AM- Fire breaks out at Los Alamos Technical Area 53 — Squirrel blamedby George Gibb 7/4/2011 12:02:13 AM
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Come ON, Whats next, Alaskan Penguins entangled in HAARP Antenna’s?by George Gibb 7/4/2011 12:03:03 AM - @george,,, one thing in that video, it sure looks to me like the twisted/wrinkled wall of the SPF and the thin concrete on the outside... I'm surprised that Gunderson didn't mention thatby dean 7/4/2011 12:03:56 AM
I hope the squirrel is OK I wondered why it hadnt tweeted today
by elainekirk 7/4/2011 12:07:44 AM- @dean I don't see what you are talking about - what time in the video are you referring to?by George Gibb 7/4/2011 12:11:39 AM
- I'll check it out..by dean 7/4/2011 12:13:04 AM
this is the interim seismic for the march 11 quake compare the figures to those of the 07 kk quake it does not make sense
kk chart www.tepco.co.jp
daini daiichi chart www.tepco.co.jpby elainekirk 7/4/2011 12:17:45 AMcheck this one @George, starts
at 06 into it then at 1:58by dean 7/4/2011 12:18:44 AM- seems like twisted metal, concrete debris, rebar,,, no evidence of concrete on the outside of the wall of the SFP in that one area,,, total destructive powerby dean 7/4/2011 12:23:40 AM
- most of the debris looks like its from the surrounding wallsby George Gibb 7/4/2011 12:33:20 AM
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