Japan Earthquake

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@RonD Everyone assumed those huge heavy buildings in a quake zone were anchored to solid bedrock. They are anchored to a shale layer. I don't think you have to be a civil engineer to realize how big of a problem the water issue on top of the quake damage and movement would be. I wish someone could do some sort of ground scan. I bet the basements of the buildings are broken along where we saw a fissure start at #1 and end out the far side of #4
by lillymunster 7/9/2011 8:26:41 PM

@lillymunster yes great just waiting for time to play again:)
by elainekirk 7/9/2011 8:27:59 PM

To what Radioguy etc were talking about this morning on food. I found a food storage guide that gives time frames for storage of things like rice. www.usaemergencysupply.com
by lillymunster 7/9/2011 8:28:04 PM

@lillymunster tepco were ordered to do sounding but I havent as yet seen anything more than a rehashing of old docs which themselves only say 'we cant be arsed' basically
by elainekirk 7/9/2011 8:29:36 PM

@lillymunster maybe a page could be put together by the foodsters ?
by elainekirk 7/9/2011 8:30:07 PM

@elainekirk That would be a good idea, they know the data far better than I do, sounds like it is time to start adding some of those documents to the site.
by lillymunster 7/9/2011 8:36:02 PM

tepco say they will start removing fuel from the sfp's in 3yrs www.asahi.com methinks the pools will collapse long before then
by elainekirk 7/9/2011 8:38:19 PM

@lillymunster, did some groping for ground shift and found the following on the ex-SKF web pages. Thanks for the info/pointer.
ex-skf.blogspot.com
by RonD 7/9/2011 8:40:31 PM

@lillymunster well they all seem to be awol at the moment I hope they making coffee
by elainekirk 7/9/2011 8:40:37 PM

@RonD Thanks, yes that is the one I was referring to.
by lillymunster 7/9/2011 8:49:05 PM

@lillymunster One the the comments mentions the idea of a "floating foundation" as an option for building design. I work on computer chips not buildings so this is way out of my zone of knowledge.
by RonD 7/9/2011 8:49:59 PM

I can't get the tep cam to load at the moment. Is anyone else having a problem with it?
by cat 7/9/2011 8:51:23 PM

@RonD The buildings at Fuku are supposedly anchored to this shale layer. I really need to re-find those documents. But the shale layer sounded pretty unstable as in it could move in a quake where true bedrock would have been solid. So you have lots of water under the plant, a shale layer and a big quake, lots of potential for movement. There are bunches of employee stories that came out last week telling of broken pipes, etc. Some of the other employee accounts talked about cracks in buildings and containment concrete during the quake.
by lillymunster 7/9/2011 8:53:36 PM

@cat try this one mfile.akamai.com
by lillymunster 7/9/2011 8:54:39 PM

@lillymunster
TEPCO also says the ground beneath the 2 plants fell by 50 to 65 centimeters after the disaster.

Saturday, July 09, 2011 09:05 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 7/9/2011 8:54:59 PM

Harm from Fukushima Radiation: A Matter Of Perspective . A leading biophysicist has cast a critical light on the government’s reassurances that Americans were never at risk from Fukushima fallout, saying “we really don’t know for sure.”
When radioactive fallout from Japan’s nuclear disaster began appearing in the United States this spring, the Obama Administration’s open-data policy obligated the government to inform the public, in some detail, what was landing here. blogs.forbes.com
by Majj 7/9/2011 8:55:37 PM

@Edano yes, this is the first time TEPCO has admitted this. There was also a TEPCO higher up that leaked the instability of 4 out to people last week. I think TEPCO's PR facade is falling apart.
by lillymunster 7/9/2011 8:56:20 PM

Dismantling Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant to take several decades

TOKYO, July 9, Kyodo

The full dismantling of the crisis-hit Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, including removing nuclear fuel and tearing down reactors and the buildings housing them, is expected to take several decades, sources familiar with the matter said Saturday.

Under a medium- to long-term plan being discussed by the government, the plant's operator and reactor manufacturers, the removal of spent fuel rods in cooling pools would start three years after the nuclear crisis comes under control and the removal of fuel from reactors would start in fiscal 2021, the sources said.

Despite the tentative targets for removing fuel rods, the specific tasks involved has not been worked out as fuel in the Nos. 1, 2 and 3 reactors has melted through the pressure vessels and the containment vessels of the Nos. 1 and 2 reactors are likely damaged, they said. english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano 7/9/2011 8:57:05 PM

@Majj did any of the radiation airflows make it down your way or did this all pretty much stay in the northern hemisphere?
by lillymunster 7/9/2011 8:57:16 PM

english.kyodonews.jp

No. 3 unit at Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant
Supplied photo shows pipelines of the No. 3 reactor of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in Fukushima Prefecture on July 8, 2011. Tokyo Electric Power Co. is expected to start injecting nitrogen through the pipelines to prevent hydrogen explosion as soon as the government's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency and local governments give the go-ahead. (Photo courtesy of TEPCO)(Kyodo) english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 7/9/2011 9:00:30 PM

#Radiation in Japan: How Cows and Pigs Evacuated from Fukushima
You wouldn't need a so-called "conspiracy theory" when you have the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries who is eager to register the Japanese cuisine as "world intangible cultural heritage".
Several readers asked whether the cows and pigs in Fukushima Prefecture had actually been evacuated or sold. Answer is yes, and it's been happening since March, and more so after the end of April, thanks to this particular Ministry's guidance. ex-skf.blogspot.com
by Majj 7/9/2011 9:00:46 PM

@lillymunster. No that one is the same. When I press play it returns to conecting...ready, but doesn't play.
by cat 7/9/2011 9:00:48 PM

@cat when I tried it, it put up some sort of error message but did work. I am using Firefox. So there may be something odd in their data going out on the feed.
by lillymunster 7/9/2011 9:01:38 PM

Concerns still over levees around Nebraska plants www.mercurynews.com
by lillymunster 7/9/2011 9:06:17 PM

@lillymunster No North Hemisphere only. The wind currents kip the planet divide in 2. Ironic that all the developed contrys are situated in North Hemisphere. There are thousands people from all over the word immigrating to Brazil. The last 5 years has increase dramatic the numbers. Now after Fukushima you can imagine the next scenario. I just holp that we don't have multiple accidents, like Los Alamos and the power plant on the Missouri, . This cal lid to military invasions for new habitable lands...
by Majj 7/9/2011 9:07:45 PM

@Majj That would be incredibly ugly. I know at least in the US there seems to be a renewed interest in living abroad. It seems to be more than just US to Europe also.
by lillymunster 7/9/2011 9:10:28 PM

@lillymunster There are many American families selling their land in America and moving to Brazil. They by 100% more land and get Money from the Brazilian Government to plant. This apply for people of all nationality and all are very well receive by Brazilians. In Brazil wen you start speaking Brazilian Portuguese we say ' You are near to become Brazilian.... " We like America are a big mix pot ;-) The shit is they are plant Soy and Sugar Cane :-((((((
by Majj 7/9/2011 9:16:08 PM

@Majj that Forbes article reminded me of some of the older radiation exposure incidents they have had in the US. During WWII young women working in an airplane factory used radium paint to paint instrument dials so they glowed in the dark. They would wet their brushes by sticking them in their mouth. They all became sick or died. Far before this, probably 1800's to early 1900's Radium springs and radium water was considered healthy....until people got radiation illnesses or cancer and died. In the 1950's they used xray machines to determine shoe size in some stores. They also would xray pregnant women frequently to view the fetus. All of these lead to cancers and were stopped.
by lillymunster 7/9/2011 9:16:16 PM

@Majj shouldn't they be planting something other than commodity crops or is that what the Brazilian govt. wants people to plant?
by lillymunster 7/9/2011 9:17:57 PM

@lillymunster The Brazilian government is busy doing corruptions. The land owners want to make money, the Banks want to borrow and get profit ,the Chinese are by and finance every thing. The Brazilian Government is changing the "forest law" and give anistia to passt land crimes. Big Party going on dow here. Every one is making money ;-(((((
by Majj 7/9/2011 9:21:31 PM

But is a democratic country, free religion,free press, free near every thing .......
by Majj 7/9/2011 9:24:06 PM

Another twitter to follow. This is for the mothers group in Japan that is protesting the govt. lack of safety for children in Japan and Fukushima. They are also asking for help getting the word out about what they are doing so retweets, passing their information or stories on will help them.
TWITTER:
momssavechild
by lillymunster 7/9/2011 9:24:19 PM

@Majj so no rules on the govt. subsidy? Some of our US subsidy is tied to what they grow. Sadly the biggest subsidy is for corn and soybeans rather than healthy foods.
by lillymunster 7/9/2011 9:25:15 PM

@lillymunster I think here is like this if you have some one to put 50% of the money, lets say the Chinese, the government put the others 50% no question asked... Remember the corruption . The Soy bean farms are ALL 100% automatic and are run by very fell people. Is all a big show. I fell no shame because ALL the other countrys are the same. Is party of the " be human". The game change by country or culture but is all a big LIE. And us ? We have to be aware of it all the time , don't get involve in the game. spreed the word and observe the Change. It is Coming and coming FASTER and FASTER. If we don't fall in the game we will be OK.
by Majj 7/9/2011 9:35:58 PM

@you Wen I say CHANGE I'm not being esoteric. I min a change like we see in the Japanese Mothers. A awareness create by the need survive . I believe in a happy end .
by Majj 7/9/2011 9:42:33 PM

@Majj Totally agree. Things are really the same everywhere just different window dressing. I see the same things being done to people in Japan that are done to people in the US just with different minor details. Seems to be the same govt. problems also, they listen to money and big companies and individual people get screwed.
by lillymunster 7/9/2011 9:59:03 PM

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We got stuck next to this truck during the 7pm July 1st holiday traffic on North bound I-270, after seeing the Radioactive warning placards we pulled out the Geiger Counter and Camera. Lesson learned, AVOID RADIOACTIVE TRUCKS!
by Majj 7/9/2011 9:59:19 PM

@lillymunster I am going to find the proper list for cooper I have to now been looking too long to give up
by elainekirk 7/9/2011 10:00:06 PM

@Majj : unbelievable !
by Edano 7/9/2011 10:01:28 PM

@Majj gobsmacked
by elainekirk 7/9/2011 10:02:06 PM

@Majj what would this guy be hauling that is giving off that much radiation? Even medical radiation gets transported in lined containers.
by lillymunster 7/9/2011 10:04:10 PM

@lillymunster this is a case for a court !
by Edano 7/9/2011 10:06:03 PM

@lillymunster cooper seismic pbadupws.nrc.gov
by elainekirk 7/9/2011 10:06:28 PM

@Edano 4,662 views in 3 days. some one will act. there are numbers on the truck. I will create a Google alert and do a ' Follow up" on this history .
by Majj 7/9/2011 10:13:11 PM