after chernobyl,. the legal limit for radioactivity in milk "from 370 [bq] was reduced to 50 becquerels".
by Edano 7/20/2011 8:33:55 PM
@RadioGuy yes. Plus the little plug in boxes are small, easy to ship, tote around etc. The parents groups are really motivated. I don't think it would take much to get them on this.
by lillymunster 7/20/2011 8:36:59 PM
Off to venture out into the heat. Will check in and go through posts when I get back.
by lillymunster 7/20/2011 8:37:32 PM
ahh, i found something:
translate.google.de the network was called "
Strahlentelex".
by Edano 7/20/2011 8:44:24 PM
@Edano great find just reading it
by elainekirk 7/20/2011 8:46:12 PM
by Edano 7/20/2011 8:48:54 PM
@Edano and all before the internet
by elainekirk 7/20/2011 9:00:28 PM
@elainekirk : they used telex/telefax and a newspaper that was founded for it: "tageszeitung (taz)". i just cannot find any english documentation.
by Edano 7/20/2011 9:01:52 PM
i remember very well reading the becquerel data every day. it was on the front page.
by Edano 7/20/2011 9:02:47 PM
@Edano I remember the weather forecasts more than the food issues
by elainekirk 7/20/2011 9:09:43 PM
ahh, Yablokov's famous book: "
Chernobyl
Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment"
www.stumbleupon.com 349 pages !
by Edano 7/20/2011 9:15:27 PM
@Edano mmm 349 my be a bit beyond me
by elainekirk 7/20/2011 9:18:12 PM
1. Because of the current high load of radio-Iodine Japanese people should refrain from eating salad, leafy vegetables and edible wild herbs for the time being.
2. The basis for estimates of health effects being uncertain, we must recommend that no food with a concentration of more than 4 Becquerel of the leading radionuclide Cesium-137 per kilogram shall be given to infants, children and adolescents. Grown-ups are recommended to eat no food over 8 Becquerel per kilogram of the leading nuclide Cesium-137.3. Japanese citizens action groups and Japanese foundations should consider establishing independent measuring stations to control food in Japan for radionuclides and to publish the results measured. Europe and the USA should consider the best way to support such initiatives in Japan.www.strahlentelex.deby Edano 7/20/2011 9:19:13 PM
wow !
by Edano 7/20/2011 9:21:11 PM
the legal limit is 700 bq, and they recommend 4-8 bq !
by Edano 7/20/2011 9:22:20 PM
"According to the German Radiation Protection Ordinance of 2001, §47, an organ dose limit for the thyroid gland of 0.9 milliSievert per year is allowable under conditions of normal operations of nuclear facilities. To eat only 100 grams of this highly contaminated spinach from Japan will exceed this limit by several times. Under conditions of a nuclear emergency an organ dose to the thyroid gland of 150 milliSievert is considered allowable according to §49 of the German ordinance. This corresponds to a so-called effective dose of 7.5 milliSievert."
by Edano 7/20/2011 9:24:59 PM
700 is ridiculous what is Europe at the moment ? I know europe upped the limits soon after fuku and I think they raised them again may/june
by elainekirk 7/20/2011 9:25:17 PM
@elainekirk : no, luckily they lowered again to the previous limits.
by Edano 7/20/2011 9:26:06 PM
the last scource is very interesting.
by Edano 7/20/2011 9:27:21 PM
"Keep the public confused on nuclear fission and fusion."-- Eisenhower
dks.thing.netwww.nirs.orgby Edano 7/20/2011 9:32:57 PM
@Edano iit works ..I am confused
by elainekirk 7/20/2011 9:42:32 PM
@elainekirk :)
by Edano 7/20/2011 9:43:22 PM
Nakanishi's research team has also been studying wheat crops near the nuclear plant. The scientists have discovered that for the most part, the radioactive particles have accumulated on the surface of wheat plants. Plants whose leaves were open at the time of the disaster collected up to 1 million becquerels of radioactive cesium per kilogram – far above the 500 Bq/kg that is considered safe for people to eat. However, plants whose leaves opened after the worst of the radioactive emissions were found to have just 300 to 500 Bq/kg.
articles.latimes.comby elainekirk 7/20/2011 9:46:31 PM
huuu, tired of searching. i could not find anything about the organization structure of Strahlentelex and the independent food testing. maybe too long ago ....
by Edano 7/20/2011 9:50:35 PM
@Edano th info you have found is good lets make sure everything is preserved this time in the sincere hope it is never needed
by elainekirk 7/20/2011 9:52:54 PM
but i remember the testing was by type of food and brands. so they said: we found 40000 bq/kg in nestle bitter chocolate ...
by Edano 7/20/2011 9:55:00 PM
it's the 3rd day without important news on nhk & kyodo. we face the next stage of news blackout.
by Edano 7/20/2011 9:57:40 PM
@Edano I think the only way to stop a total news blockade is to wake up the public in other countries and get them asking questions
by elainekirk 7/20/2011 9:59:41 PM
@elainekirk : i admire your power.
by Edano 7/20/2011 10:01:38 PM
@Peter Melzer : nancy asked how the strahlentelex was organized but i could not find anything. i think there were citizens' groups in every region...
by Edano 7/20/2011 10:06:06 PM
and how they measured the food.
by Edano 7/20/2011 10:07:22 PM
iiihhh :) my daughter is 4 and does the same :)
by Edano 7/20/2011 10:08:38 PM
@Peter Melzer reboot should sort it
by elainekirk 7/20/2011 10:09:16 PM
@elainekirk : sticking keys ???
by Edano 7/20/2011 10:09:51 PM
when my daughter was younger she managed to remove the keys from the board. wasn't that funny :(
by Edano 7/20/2011 10:11:27 PM
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Cattle internal exposure. Due to straw. Source of straw? Restrictions on shipments of vegetables balanced Nokanakatta What was that area? Vegetables are sold or who bought and where? Great potential for internal radiation exposure if you've already been consumed. # primary genpatsu Ittaru in the referendum or in a short period?
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by elainekirk 7/20/2011 11:06:24 PM
there was iodine found in tokyo this month I posted a link earlier
by elainekirk 7/20/2011 11:25:44 PM
Skepticism Greets Reported Progress at Crippled Japanese Nuclear Plant
I am back and just saw the Strahlentelex story edano recalled. I remember the telexes, too, on more remotely because lived in Switzerland at the time. I remember Milka chocolate with hazelnuts from Turkey being outrageously hot. Citizens organized in networks are empowered to rat out just about anything.
So, there is cesium 200, 300, 400 km from Fukushima... It means that in march the dose of iodine was very high for millions of people... What's about the actual incidence of thyroid cancer and leukemia for children in Japan?by Olivier 7/20/2011 11:18:03 PM
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