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  • Japan Won't Rule Out Possibility Radioactive Fukushima Beef Was Exported
    Japan’s government said it can’t rule out the possibility beef contaminated with radioactive material has been exported, as consumers and lawmakers accused authorities of negligence on food safety.
    “We cannot completely rule out the possibility” contaminated beef was also sold abroad, Yuichi Imasaki, the deputy director of the farm ministry’s meat and egg division said by phone today. “The chances are very low” because most countries have tightened rules on Japanese beef imports or banned them, he said.
    More: www.bloomberg.com
    by joniver 7/20/2011 4:36:08 PM

  • @elainekirk Now THAT would have been a plan, but of course, way too expensive for anything but pie-in-the-sky pronouncements to be abandoned a few weeks later.
    by RadioGuy 7/20/2011 4:36:23 PM

  • @joniver but will they say it has to be decommissioned or will they settle for a patch up job?
    by elainekirk 7/20/2011 4:36:42 PM

  • @RadioGuy all animals they pick up get scanned and they have put dosimeters or some sort of meter on ones they think might be higher contaminated.
    by lillymunster 7/20/2011 4:37:15 PM

  • Good. Now they should try that with the people, FFS!
    by RadioGuy 7/20/2011 4:38:22 PM

  • OK... I have to go... obviously my cynicism buffers are over-run. ;)
    by RadioGuy 7/20/2011 4:39:31 PM

  • @RadioGuy yes I think they are floundering there has always been a strong work ethic in Japan and I believe they probably decided to sit tight and neglect the area in the hope that people would relocate and start again without government support but that would have required businesses to want to start up/invest in the Country and they arent they are simply moving production elsewhere. The third biggest economy in the world is now worthless
    by elainekirk 7/20/2011 4:40:11 PM

  • @lillymunster Scanning the animals is not enough. They must collect samples and have them thoroughly analysed in order to know how deep the contamination goes and that takes a long time. Best thing to do, in my opinion, is having all these animals quarantined until they can make a scientific assessment. There's always going to be economical repercussions and they won't dissipate in the near future. Lets hope health concerns are put ahead of economical concerns.
    by Pedro Jesus 7/20/2011 4:41:06 PM

  • @RadioGuy I know the feeling
    by elainekirk 7/20/2011 4:41:08 PM

  • @elainekirk My money is on a patch job.
    by joniver 7/20/2011 4:42:45 PM

  • When will we ever learn? www.commonsnews.org
    by Panserbjorne9 7/20/2011 4:43:12 PM

  • (Jul 20,2011)The status of evaluation and determination of internal exposure "over 50mSv and less or equal to 100mSv" in March and April
    www.tepco.co.jp
    by elainekirk 7/20/2011 4:43:58 PM

  • @Panserbjorne9 wow love that article
    by elainekirk 7/20/2011 4:46:26 PM

  • EU agrees to bury nuclear waste in secure bunkers
    The new rules force national nuclear authorities to draw up disposal plans by 2015, which will be vetted by Europe's energy commissioner Guenther Oettinger.
    Oettinger's team, which will vet the national strategies, has already stated its preference for "deep geological repositories" -- caverns to be built in clay or granite rocks between 100 and 700 meters underground.
    "At present, such deep geological repositories do not exist anywhere in the world nor is a repository in construction outside of the EU," said Oettinger's team. "It takes currently a minimum of 40 years to develop and build one."
    More: www.reuters.com
    by joniver 7/20/2011 4:57:48 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus pets are mostly what they are rescuing. I know the ones they picked up from the plant were quarantined, urine tested a couple of times and had a dosimeter or some sort of monitoring device on them.
    by lillymunster 7/20/2011 4:59:50 PM

  • @joniver it gets worse doesnt it ? if people would wake up annd get proactive but the world is overidden with ostriches
    by elainekirk 7/20/2011 5:02:54 PM

  • www.tepco.co.jp
    with diagrams - Situation of storing and treatment of accumulated water including highly concentrated radioactive materials at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station
    by elainekirk 7/20/2011 5:06:53 PM

  • Elaine it continues to amaze me how many people don't care and don't want to talk about it. I guess it has to happen in their own backyard to make any impact.
    by joniver 7/20/2011 5:07:06 PM

  • @joniver well it probably is I have no faith in any form of oversight of imports taking place that would identify rogue shipments
    by elainekirk 7/20/2011 5:13:52 PM

  • @RadioGuy betting most people would avoid rad tuna.... I just wanted to dissagree. If "most" people hear from gov or news that it isn't a threat, even if radioactive, then most "sheeple" will still eat it. People and Sheeple rely on democratic, elected gov to protect them.The world just has to many hazards, outside the scope of self protection, for people to worry about, they get overwhelmed. This obviously doesn't apply to inquisitive minds or activists, but my experience is that most people are not inquisitive. They are more concerned with a Single possible child killer than they are with threats (that they don't understand) to large numbers of people.
    by RBeaner 7/20/2011 5:18:49 PM

  • Some groups in Japan pushing for an evacuation rights law or agreement so people can evacuate, get proper compensation and some independence in the relocating process. kodomozenkokunet.sblo.jp
    by lillymunster 7/20/2011 5:22:12 PM

  • More prefectures with contaminated cattle: Shizuoka Prefecture, Akita, Gunma, Gifu farmers were produced using a straw Tome, Miyagi Prefecture. Where the distribution of straw produced in Miyagi: www.nikkei.com
    by lillymunster 7/20/2011 5:37:06 PM

  • @lillymunster they really expect people to believe that it was straw dont they it just doesnt stand up to scrutiny does it ?
    by elainekirk 7/20/2011 5:43:08 PM

  • @RBeaner Hence the caveat: if they believe the source of the radiation testing.
    by RadioGuy 7/20/2011 5:49:05 PM

  • It's beginning to seem like the only way to get people to notice is to so totally discredit the monitoring agencies that their pronouncements evoke laughter, not docility. But then, they're the experts, eh?
    by RadioGuy 7/20/2011 5:50:50 PM

  • @elainekirk straw, grass, being outside. Unless all these cows bought hay left outside in Fukushima they are going to have to admit the problem is more widespread. The new factor is that if cows were becoming contaminated far away what about everything else? People, pets, produce, other livestock... It seems like the cows are the source that broke the lie and as it does it is showing things to be so widespread...
    by lillymunster 7/20/2011 5:51:07 PM

  • docs.google.com @ lilly did you see this..
    by dean 7/20/2011 5:51:26 PM

  • @elainekirk Oh they absolutely expect that. Otherwise everything is suspect.
    by RadioGuy 7/20/2011 5:51:43 PM

  • @dean link didn't work. I think it tried to go to gmail
    by lillymunster 7/20/2011 5:52:09 PM

  • docs.google.com NRC CITES FT CALHOUN FOR INSPECTION FINDING
    by dean 7/20/2011 5:53:48 PM

  • I am on final travel leg back to home from getting the team raleigh all set up in Bend Oregon.. i had to return due some issues at home..
    by dean 7/20/2011 5:54:38 PM

  • I wonder where the beer is brewed ?
    Some farmers feed beer to their cows every week. Some like it. Other have to be force fed. Six to eight months before the beef is sold, the cows are fed beer to increase their appetite and relieve stress.
    factsanddetails.com
    by elainekirk 7/20/2011 6:02:02 PM

  • @elainekirk Or more to the point, what was the source of the grain?
    by RadioGuy 7/20/2011 6:04:29 PM

  • elaine.. one time I HEARD of beef raised in japan that is prime beef and they are hung in a sling and fed their entire time up to slaughter for them most tender meat..
    by dean 7/20/2011 6:05:01 PM

  • Luckily it's still last year's harvest so for now it's probably safer than the water.
    by RadioGuy 7/20/2011 6:05:30 PM

  • (Depending how tight their storage is for the grain.)
    by RadioGuy 7/20/2011 6:06:13 PM

  • Oh wait. No. Sheesh, it's July already. They should already have had a barley harvest. oops...
    by RadioGuy 7/20/2011 6:08:41 PM

  • Grain for beer is handled in pretty hygienic ways. How it is handled from farm to grain distributor is another story.
    by lillymunster 7/20/2011 6:09:07 PM

  • @lillymunster Exactly, just like the water. It's already RO filtered and then re-mineralized.
    by RadioGuy 7/20/2011 6:09:47 PM

  • Unfortunately, there's no equivalent filtering for radioactive grain.
    by RadioGuy 7/20/2011 6:11:08 PM

  • @RadioGuy are you sure barley would be done already? I thought it had the same cycle as wheat.
    by lillymunster 7/20/2011 6:11:34 PM

  • It depends when it's planted. If you think of the grasses around you, they've all seeded already, right? If barley is planted in the fall, just after the previous harvest, it can over-winter and then it's harvestable as early as May.
    by RadioGuy 7/20/2011 6:14:03 PM

  • We'd have to see if the Japanese use this approach to get another crop in. If the barley harvest is early enough, you can still put up a fall harvest of wheat.
    by RadioGuy 7/20/2011 6:16:28 PM

  • @lillymunster Here's what I found on it. www.scribd.com
    The scribd document formats badly for me but it pastes OK, so here's the pertinent part.

    Until recently, barley and wheat, grown in most parts of Japan as winter grains, have been second only to rice in their importance as food staples of the Japanese people. Along with brown rice, the taste of cooked rice and barley was something dear to Japanese farmers. Yet these winter grains are today in the process of vanishing from Japanese soil.

    As recently as fifteen or twenty years ago, the paddy field was not neglected after the rice harvest in the fall; something was always grown there during the winter months. Farmers knew that productivity per unit area of paddy was never better than when a summer rice crop was followed by a crop of barley or wheat in the winter. As soon as the rice was harvested in the fall, the paddy field was plowed, ridges formed, and the barley or wheat seed sown. This was done because winter grain was thought to have a poor resistance to moisture.

    It was neither money nor labor that supported the arduous practice of double cropping paddy fields with wheat or barley. It was pride. The farmer, afraid of being called lazy or wasteful if he left his fields fallow over the winter, plowed every inch of available Japanese soil. So when the farming authorities started saying that nobody had any need for expensive wheat and talking about a euthanasia of domestic wheat production, this knocked the moral support out from under the farmer, speeding his physical and spiritual downfall. Over the past five years or so, wheat and barley production has almost disappeared in some localities.
    by RadioGuy 7/20/2011 7:21:31 PM

  • @RadioGuy they said weeks ago that the rice was being planted and would be tested , would a poor area like that with its ageing population have carried on double cropping and did they harvest barley before planting
    by elainekirk 7/20/2011 7:30:53 PM

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