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  • @Edano a woorker said this morning that they still have to walk past it but that he always runs :(
    by elainekirk 8/2/2011 9:18:45 AM

  • @elainekirk so strange they have nothing to shield it immediately ! they are not prepared for anything.
    by Edano 8/2/2011 9:20:03 AM

  • @Edano considering
    - At 2:30 pm on August 1, as radiation level of surface of connection of
    emergency gas treatment system piping arrangement at the bottom of main
    exhaust stuck of unit 1 and 2 was detected over 10 Sv/h, keep the area
    out for restricted area with signature. We will consider countermeasure
    such as shilding. www.tepco.co.jp
    by elainekirk 8/2/2011 9:22:26 AM

  • @elainekirk so strange.
    by Edano 8/2/2011 9:23:34 AM

  • As far as I am aware air is a very poor radiation shield - to quote from en.wikibooks.org "35 m of air is needed to reduce the intensity of a 100 keV gamma-ray beam by a factor of two whereas just 0.12 mm of lead can do the same thing", in which case standing 4m away would have a negligible effect!
    by hudebnik 8/2/2011 9:24:17 AM

  • This is @dean's area really
    by hudebnik 8/2/2011 9:24:41 AM

  • @Edano I went through all the human rights that Japan are a signatory to last night and they don't seem to have covered polution at all!
    by elainekirk 8/2/2011 9:24:54 AM

  • @hudebnik i also thought that 3m away cannot possibly reduce the radiation by factor 2,000.
    by Edano 8/2/2011 9:26:05 AM

  • Not remotely
    by hudebnik 8/2/2011 9:26:29 AM

  • sorry, no pun intended
    by hudebnik 8/2/2011 9:26:39 AM

  • maybe it was measured beneath protective suit.
    by Edano 8/2/2011 9:27:04 AM

  • with xrays, the safe distance is 2m. but xrays are far weaker.
    by Edano 8/2/2011 9:28:47 AM

  • It's hard to tell from the rather small pic but is he wearing breathing app and gloves, are his trouser legs taped up and is he wearing boots?
    by hudebnik 8/2/2011 9:29:22 AM

  • @Edano - maybe it's just 'instrument failure'
    by hudebnik 8/2/2011 9:30:17 AM

  • lots of questions no answers
    by Edano 8/2/2011 9:30:55 AM

  • by elainekirk 8/2/2011 9:39:30 AM

  • @All, hi again, I found this article, it says that they actually detected TWO spots @ 10sv+ one "at the bottom of the stack and the other on the stack it's self" (link: au.news.yahoo.com ) also not fuku related seems India had a small issue too (link: au.news.yahoo.com ) @Elaine I read the mainichi article....what can I say? Not at all? damm TEPCO! I am in and out so if I don't respond I am still here..... @Edano "lots of questions no answers"......well that's something new from TEPCO [SARCASM INTENDED] :-)
    by Thunder 8/2/2011 9:41:34 AM

  • @elainekirk very nice, thx !
    by Edano 8/2/2011 9:41:58 AM

  • This is the Tepco original - www.tepco.co.jp He is only about 3m away!
    by hudebnik 8/2/2011 9:45:08 AM

  • I wonder why the pic is so blurry around the counter he is holding...so that we can't read it?
    by hudebnik 8/2/2011 9:47:23 AM

  • They are wise to @elaine's and @lilli's video skills!
    by hudebnik 8/2/2011 9:48:36 AM

  • Taking a break chaps - may see you later. Good luck with the digging.
    by hudebnik 8/2/2011 9:51:06 AM

  • My final shot - if my maths is correct and he is really measuring 10Sv/hr then in 1 minute he would be exposed to 166.6 mSv, so he would exceed his total allowed dose in under 2 minutes. No wonder the workers run past!
    by hudebnik 8/2/2011 9:56:48 AM

  • @hudebnik : no, he is 3m away. you just calculated the minute dose directly at the hot spot.
    by Edano 8/2/2011 10:17:13 AM

  • @Edano Do we know what type of radiation source it is?
    by Pedro Jesus 8/2/2011 10:36:12 AM

  • "At 10:00 am on August 2, we started transfer of low level accumulated water from temporary outside tank to mega-float." www.tepco.co.jp
    by Pedro Jesus 8/2/2011 10:38:31 AM

  • "The government has said radiation levels around the plant, which lies 220 kilometres from Tokyo, had fallen to "two-millionths" of the peak recorded March 15." www.heraldsun.com.au Is this correct? Hmmm...
    by Pedro Jesus 8/2/2011 10:40:20 AM

  • @Pedro Jesus I dont know about inside the zone but readings in the 'safe' outside the zone area for the 2nd of August can be viewed here so come to our own conclusions about inside the zone www.mext.go.jp
    by elainekirk 8/2/2011 10:56:03 AM

  • out for awhile
    by elainekirk 8/2/2011 11:02:42 AM

  • @elainekirk Thanks. See you later.
    by Pedro Jesus 8/2/2011 11:03:13 AM

  • High-level radiation detected again at Fukushima Daiichi plant

    TOKYO, Aug. 2, Kyodo

    Radiation doses of more than 10 sieverts, or 10,000 millisieverts, per hour have been detected outdoors again at the crisis-hit Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, its operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Tuesday.

    If exposed to such a high-level dosage of radiation in a short period of time, almost all people exposed would die, radiation experts said.

    Tokyo Electric, known as TEPCO, also said radiation dosages of 5 sieverts per hour were detected indoors on the second floor of the No. 1 reactor at the plant. The amount is the highest figure for indoors. english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 8/2/2011 11:13:45 AM

  • kyodo woke up. one day too late.
    by Edano 8/2/2011 11:15:16 AM

  • Govt bans shipments of Tochigi beef cattle

    Japan's government has ordered Tochigi Prefecture to suspend its shipments of beef cattle due to fears of radioactive contamination.

    The government ordered the ban on Tuesday after beef from 4 head of cattle shipped from 2 municipalities in the prefecture was found to contain unsafe amounts of radioactive cesium.

    Cesium contamination was also detected in rice straw used to feed beef cattle in the prefecture.

    Tochigi is the fourth prefecture ordered to suspend beef cattle shipments, following Fukushima, Miyagi and Iwate.

    The government says it will allow resumption of shipments if radiation levels of all beef from farms whose shipments and feed were contaminated, as well as beef from other farms, fall below the government standard.

    Tochigi says it will test all of its beef cattle, but the prefecture ships up to 55,000 head of cattle per year, and fewer than 30,000 can be processed locally.

    The government is to ask the prefecture to draw up realistic plans for resuming shipments, such as limiting the number of cattle to be shipped.

    Tuesday, August 02, 2011 18:07 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 8/2/2011 11:17:19 AM

  • poor cattle !
    by Edano 8/2/2011 11:17:44 AM

  • Govt sets new criteria for contaminated fertilizer

    Japan's government has laid down a new set of criteria for the use of fertilizers that may be contaminated with radioactive cesium.

    On Tuesday, the agriculture ministry urged farmers not to use humus and compost that contain 400 becquerels of cesium per kilogram or more.

    It also called on them not to use livestock feed containing 300 becquerels of cesium per kilogram or more. For fish feed, the limit was set at 100 becquerels per kilogram.

    The ministry says it will notify local governments how to measure cesium in fertilizers as soon as possible.

    Last week, the agriculture ministry asked famers and fertilizer producers in 17 prefectures in eastern and central Japan to voluntarily refrain from using or selling compost and humus made from fallen leaves possibly contaminated with radioactive cesium.

    This was after humus shipped from Tochigi Prefecture was found to be contaminated with radioactive substances.

    Tuesday, August 02, 2011 17:55 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 8/2/2011 11:18:34 AM

  • in german: www.focus.de
    interesting article about the stages of radiation disease. it says, over 200 people in fuku pref have suffered acute radiation syndrome, but the cases are hidden. there is no scource. if this is true, then the problems are far worse than they make us believe.
    by Edano 8/2/2011 11:32:20 AM

  • @Edano, thank you for posting the news from NHK. I`m on mobile phone and when looking at their site and news, i`m not able to scroll down the text with the nrws, so once again Thanks!!
    by DT 8/2/2011 11:32:30 AM

  • @DT yw. :)
    by Edano 8/2/2011 11:32:41 AM

  • Govt to conduct comprehensive radiation monitoring

    Japan's government has decided to start comprehensive radiation monitoring this year by coordinating organizations that have been checking radiation levels since the Fukushima nuclear accident in March.

    The government decided on the plan on Tuesday in response to criticism about difficulty in referring to results of such checks by various ministries, agencies, prefectural governments and utilities.

    The plan divides monitoring activities into 6 fields including air, water, farm soil and grass, and food.

    Organizations are to be in charge of monitoring and analyzing results in each field and proposing concrete measures.

    The government is to set up about 250 monitoring points across the country and draw up maps showing radiation levels at children's facilities, such as schools and public libraries.

    The science ministry is expected to set up a website to provide such data by mid-August.

    Tuesday, August 02, 2011 19:33 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 8/2/2011 11:38:09 AM

  • 4.bp.blogspot.com Tuesday, August 2, 2011
    Wanted: 20 Healthy Males Who Want over $600 for 4-Hour Work a Day for One Month to Help Disaster-Affected Tohoku
    It's probably a job in the disaster-affected area called Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant...
    Anyone care to join "Fukushima 50"? It's not too late. They need fresh workers in the "new normal" at the plant where 10 sieverts/hour radiation is considered no big deal. (TEPCO says it doesn't matter because no work is planned in the area of 10-plus sieverts/hr radiation.) ex-skf.blogspot.com

    by Majj via 4.bp.blogspot 8/2/2011 11:45:06 AM

  • @Majj Well, if you compare to Chernobyl where workers had to clear debris in 400Sv/h environment doing 40 seconds shifts, 10Sv/h on an off limits area doesn't sound so much.
    by Pedro Jesus 8/2/2011 11:50:08 AM

  • @Pedro Jesus Twitter sailzazen Majj
    Why TEPCO use a device that only record up to 10 sieverts/hr radiation in #Fukushima ????? How much #radiation is really there? #genpatsu
    55 seconds ago
    by Majj 8/2/2011 11:53:22 AM

  • @Pedro Jesus sailzazen Majj
    @ikrockhopper ......registered more than 10 sieverts an hour, the highest reading the devices are able to record.... tiny.cc/edfya
    15 hours ago
    by Majj 8/2/2011 11:55:17 AM

  • @Pedro Jesus 10 is the minimun they have there..... Read below : Geiger counters, used to detect radioactivity, registered more than 10 sieverts an hour, the highest reading the devices are able to record, Junichi Matsumoto, a general manager at the utility, said today. The measurements were taken at the base of the main ventilation stack for reactors No. 1 and No. 2. www.bloomberg.com
    by Majj 8/2/2011 11:56:48 AM

  • @Majj Well they can calculate how much radiation there is by taking readings from different distances. The question is why they haven't provided that calculation as well. About the meters, a few months ago I was checking in different websites for portable radiation meters and I couldn't find a single one that would read over 10,000 mSv. Most of them only read up to 1,000 mSv. I don't know the reason for the limitation but my guess is, you wouldn't be around that kind of radiation levels with a portable device.
    by Pedro Jesus 8/2/2011 11:57:05 AM

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