
@Edano but now there is no longer an easy way to raise the subject of testing without causing the very fear and panic that the gov were pretending they wanted to avoid.
But very soon the truth will out because people will become sick in numbers that
cannot be hidden
by elainekirk 8/1/2011 2:23:10 PM

@Peter Melzer that is how they cleared most of the debris. Why they didn't do those areas is a mystery.
by lillymunster 8/1/2011 2:40:34 PM

back
by dean 8/1/2011 2:52:18 PM

this debris lies there since almost 5 months ???
by Edano 8/1/2011 2:54:04 PM

@dean @Edano thats what is niggling me dean you need to read the nhk asahi
by elainekirk 8/1/2011 2:56:53 PM

can you direct me to it elaine please... @Edano hi
by dean 8/1/2011 2:57:36 PM

by elainekirk 8/1/2011 2:58:42 PM

reading now ty elaine
by dean 8/1/2011 2:59:05 PM

reporting quake now from the artist @edano any news now jamesinjapan is saying it is getting bigger
W7VOA Steve Herman
Got the warning here in Seoul via Yurekuru! RT @ninja_padrino: Yurekuru was right on top of this quake...15 second head start.
by elainekirk 8/1/2011 2:59:32 PM

first article..quite a jump from 10 mSv to 10 Sv... hmmmmm
by dean 8/1/2011 3:03:07 PM

no quake report so far.
by Edano 8/1/2011 3:04:52 PM


6.1 in the south east www.jma.go.jp

this is hamaoka.
by Edano 8/1/2011 3:06:29 PM

00:01 JST 02 Aug 2011 23:58 JST 01 Aug 2011 Suruga-wan M6.1 8 min ago
www.jma.go.jpby Edano 8/1/2011 3:07:30 PM


@Edano very efficient reporting there from @yurekuru who seems to be tweeting the quakes
by elainekirk 8/1/2011 3:09:00 PM

intensity 3 in tokyo
www.jma.go.jpby Edano 8/1/2011 3:09:03 PM

could be a pre quake for the real big one .....
by Edano 8/1/2011 3:11:41 PM

@dean it is strange that we are getting so much info after the silence of the past few weeks
by elainekirk 8/1/2011 3:12:32 PM

@Edano terrible thought but probably true
by elainekirk 8/1/2011 3:13:06 PM

yes @ elaine but for what ever reason the info is sure nice.. now to link it up with what we had before. The exhaust piping is a very good example for the hot spot location
by dean 8/1/2011 3:15:40 PM

4 killed, 2 missing in torrential rain in JapanTorrential rains in central and northeastern Japan have left 4 people dead and 2 missing, after one more death was confirmed on Monday.
The rains last week and through the weekend in Niigata and Fukushima Prefectures have burst river banks and caused flooding in many areas. More than 7,400 homes have been damaged.
Huge mudflows have also inundated rice paddies in Niigata Prefecture, a key rice growing area. This is expected to affect the region's harvest.
In the major rice producing city of Tokaichi, torrents of water, mud, and driftwood entered rice paddies along a river after it overflowed its banks.
Niigata Prefecture says the rain has damaged at least 1,042 hectares of farmland and rice paddies in 13 municipalities.
The full extent of damage will become clear as more reports from affected areas reach prefectural authorities.
Monday, August 01, 2011 21:19 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp by Edano 8/1/2011 3:18:05 PM

@dean there are also two pics
www.tepco.co.jp it is so curious I am thinking yesterdays quake did much damage
by elainekirk 8/1/2011 3:18:16 PM

Highly radioactive water flows into another placeHighly radioactive water has been found in the basement of a building at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant near the storage facility for contaminated water.
Tokyo Electric Power Company said on Monday that it discovered about 700 tons of contaminated water on Saturday in the basement of an on-site building.
The utility said the water contained 19,000 becquerels of radioactive cesium 134 per cubic centimeter, and 22,000 becquerels of cesium 137 --- both very high levels.
Until June, the building was connected by a hose with another building where highly radioactive water is now being stored. The buildings are located next to each other and are part of the plant's waste disposal facility.
The utility is investigating how the leakage happened but says it has already started the work to stop the contaminated water from leaking out of the building.
Monday, August 01, 2011 21:00 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp by Edano 8/1/2011 3:18:27 PM

@Edano that sounds like it explains this pdf I found - the words 'there is a possibility' rang alarm bells - it is dated today
www.tepco.co.jpby elainekirk 8/1/2011 3:19:49 PM

@dean : is the exhaust pipe break the reason for the high rad debris they found ?
by Edano 8/1/2011 3:20:03 PM

HONSHU last 4-5 EQ's.. 4.7, 4.7, 5.5, 5.5, 5.9
by dean 8/1/2011 3:20:18 PM

by Edano 8/1/2011 3:21:16 PM

@ Edano, the thing I wonder about is how does debris get inside the exhaust piping more than contamination particulates from the accident, I could see the levels being high based on what exhausted out and plated out on the piping but not necessarily larger debris... the break could have deposited the particulates on some debris under the break area. There was also something about the water from rain getting into the stack but I'm not so sure it would collect in the pipe as the discharge containment piping from the units seem to go in the stack pipe at an elevated location so the water would collect more at the bottom of the stack
by dean 8/1/2011 3:23:38 PM

@dean IIRC 1-2 actually step up to the join for the stack where 3-4 are higher up as they run to join at the stack. So there could be a lower place where water could collect. Will see if I can find the image that shows the pipes.
by lillymunster 8/1/2011 3:27:43 PM

Safety agency slams TEPCO for lax ID checks on nuclear plant workersTOKYO, Aug. 1, Kyodo
english.kyodonews.jp by Edano 8/1/2011 3:27:45 PM

Decontamination of no-go zone around Fukushima plant to start in Sept.TOKYO, Aug. 1, Kyodo
english.kyodonews.jp by Edano 8/1/2011 3:29:10 PM

sorry, only headlines on kyodo :(
by Edano 8/1/2011 3:29:25 PM

Turkey yet to decide whether to resume nuclear plant talks with JapanTOKYO/CAIRO, Aug. 1, Kyodo
Turkey has yet to decide on whether to resume discussions with Japan on importing Japanese nuclear power generation technologies, which have been suspended since the nuclear crisis triggered at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, a source at the Turkish Energy and Natural Resources Ministry said Monday.
A formal decision will be made at a meeting of Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan and other senior government officials, the source told Kyodo News.
The source made the remarks after Japanese government officials said that Turkey had told Japan of its readiness to resume the talks.
english.kyodonews.jp by Edano 8/1/2011 3:30:30 PM

Saga gov. admits making remark taken as encouraging pro-nuclear e-mailsSAGA, Japan, Aug. 1, Kyodo
english.kyodonews.jp by Edano 8/1/2011 3:31:50 PM

Tepco to start work by year-end to block radiation water leak to seaTOKYO, Aug. 1, Kyodo
english.kyodonews.jp by Edano 8/1/2011 3:32:45 PM

what ? they did not start yet ?
by Edano 8/1/2011 3:33:01 PM


1-2 pipes
by lillymunster 8/1/2011 3:34:05 PM


english.kyodonews.jp
now sth interesting for us: strahlentelex !!!
FEATURE: Fukushima people seek science savvy on skepticism of government
By Junko Horiuchi
FUKUSHIMA, Japan, Aug. 1, Kyodo
A radioactivity measurement station set up in the city of Fukushima by a civic group draws people who are skeptical about government data related to the nuclear plant crisis and keen to quickly know if food products they have are safe.
The station in the city, some 50 kilometers from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, offers a German measuring machine as part of projects ongoing in Fukushima aimed at helping people get scientific information of their own. english.kyodonews.jp

Pipes step up as they run into the stack. I have a better image but can't find it right now.
by lillymunster 8/1/2011 3:35:22 PM