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@Edano I didnt realise till you said but YES very obvious
by elainekirk 8/7/2011 1:28:54 PM

kind of clever tho
by Edano 8/7/2011 1:30:39 PM

@elainekirk the nearest plant to berlin is >300 km, i think london is the same, isn't it ?
by Edano 8/7/2011 1:33:35 PM

@Edano oh yes they put them all up north cept is there one in sheerness I will look
by elainekirk 8/7/2011 1:35:51 PM

@Edano nah the bomb was developed there ...
by elainekirk 8/7/2011 1:36:59 PM

well, it's logical not to build them near the capital, if you assume they are not safe ..........
by Edano 8/7/2011 1:37:58 PM

@Edano rather like the politicians always employing house cleaners they don't like their own mess and certainly dont want to clean it up
by elainekirk 8/7/2011 1:40:59 PM

www.helmholtz-berlin.de well, we have a research reactor in berlin. look at the picture on page 4, it looks like a toy version of fuku !!!
but still it can devastate half the city...
by Edano 8/7/2011 1:59:48 PM

sweet, and NO duct tape !
by Edano 8/7/2011 2:04:03 PM

@Edano wow lego would like that
by elainekirk 8/7/2011 2:13:01 PM

Awww so cute and tiny! :-)
by lillymunster 8/7/2011 2:25:29 PM

@lillymunster isn't it just! can you help me decide if there is relevance to the tweet dump I put on organise I have copied names into translate too to make it easier
by elainekirk 8/7/2011 2:30:10 PM

I am not sure about the Iwaki evacuation bits. The rest was about the pool at Minamisoma. The reading in their filter is insane. They should shut the pool down and completely decontaminate it or better yet use it as a big clue they all need to evacuate.
by lillymunster 8/7/2011 2:37:44 PM

@lillymunster @you so sad maybe if we kept names and asked rockhopper to ask them for more info and work with you to be fully inform them
by elainekirk 8/7/2011 2:40:28 PM

@lillymunster @you rockhopper did lots before he went to bed I hope I have copied it all over
by elainekirk 8/7/2011 2:41:08 PM

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City resorts to secret dumping to deal with piles of radioactive dirt
ajw.asahi.com
by elainekirk via Dwqovw6qi0vie.cloudfront.net 8/7/2011 2:42:37 PM

none are people I follow did. Are they ones you follow or just showed up in a subject feed?
Rockhopper retweeted about I think the child deaths in US. That got us on the subject of rumors and scams. Really sad that the govt. wastes time going after politically unfavorable things online but are obviously not pursuing people selling junk cures.

by lillymunster 8/7/2011 2:44:32 PM

a significant rise in death births / fetus dying is the first sign i would expect from beginning rad poisoning.
by Edano 8/7/2011 2:46:50 PM

we have no japanese data on that, haven't we ?
by Edano 8/7/2011 2:47:50 PM

@lillymunster many are retweets from knowns if a retweet grabs me I bring up the original poster for more info
by elainekirk 8/7/2011 2:47:56 PM

@Edano this was the cherry picked number from the US those two researchers were peddling that were not actually high if you took a larger sample
by lillymunster 8/7/2011 2:47:56 PM

@Edano, not a word about deaths, illness etc in Japan.
by lillymunster 8/7/2011 2:48:18 PM

@lillymunster i am 100% sure you would see statistical changes ....
by Edano 8/7/2011 2:49:49 PM

@Edano in Japan I would assume so. I wonder if there is existing data in the medical field and related govt. authority that just isn't being publicly connected to the disaster but is published data to be had.
by lillymunster 8/7/2011 2:51:26 PM

@Edano @lillymunster re the present babies in us surely the parent has to become coontaminated enough to pass on faulty genes or the foetus has to be contaminated before 12 - 20 weeks gestation and fuku was 5 months so effects would at the earliest not show or only just being start to emerge in the highest contamination areas ...does that make sense...probably not
by elainekirk 8/7/2011 2:52:49 PM

i tried to get some information about the "heat strokes" in japan. heat stroke is nothing you would die of, it is more like "sunburn". no other country counts heatstroke deaths. and japan is not an extraordinary hot country. i would expect lots of heat strokes in uganda or kongo, if any. so, people do not die of heat strokes. they die of kidney failure or similar things. i don't understand why japan uses this as death cause in their statistics.
by Edano 8/7/2011 2:54:10 PM

Yes that makes sense Elaine. Even if there were just environmental issues where babies breathed in contaminated air thus higher mortality it would show as some sort of spike. The questionable study took a really tiny number of days and there were much larger spikes in the months before Fuku. They really failed at research. But it bothers me that the study was dismissed as junk but then nobody is actually looking to see if we see patterns in the US.

by lillymunster 8/7/2011 2:55:54 PM

we didn't have any heat stroke deaths in germany, though we had 36° last summer.
by Edano 8/7/2011 2:55:59 PM

@elainekirk : true. we have to wait.
by Edano 8/7/2011 2:57:51 PM

Bo mentioned something about the nature of the heat being really horrible. Not sure if it was just the humidity added or something else that makes it miserable. Over 100 degrees in California is hot but tolerable. 100 degrees here in the midwest with all the flooding is utterly miserable. There were days I couldn't go outside because I couldn't breathe with all the moisture in the air, it was like going into a steam bath.
by lillymunster 8/7/2011 2:59:21 PM

@lillymunster yes the humidity makes it feel worse but still no reason to die.
by Edano 8/7/2011 3:01:44 PM

@lillymunster I think in reality the stats are gathered and computer systems alert when fluctuations occur at that point research should start but the important thing is that the public are informed and given qualified information from the start if that happened the scaremongers wouldnt get a foothold. I sound pro authority I am not but I strongly believe in people bing given the correct information on which to base choices for their families
by elainekirk 8/7/2011 3:02:14 PM

fuku clouds hiroshima www.npr.org
govt. to try to half radiation with decontamination in fukushima search.japantimes.co.jp
by lillymunster 8/7/2011 3:03:18 PM

@lillymunster would the particles in the atmosphere even if small in quantity be enough for their bodies to not utelise the argh I know what I am trying to say..kinda like bodies can react to pollen in the atmosphere
by elainekirk 8/7/2011 3:04:34 PM

@elainekirk to set off histamine or some other kind of body reaction? I have seen references to that. I would guess people could have a reaction just like they would to a chemical or other thing. Edano would know the medical facts
by lillymunster 8/7/2011 3:07:30 PM

allergic reaction ? possible, but i guess not studied yet.
by Edano 8/7/2011 3:10:36 PM

@lillymunster when you think about it fear is real it causes physical reaction as does happiness as do peanuts.. they havent (yet) standardised thwe human body so there are millions of possibilities
by elainekirk 8/7/2011 3:11:41 PM

@Edano, what is it considered if someone has a inflammatory reaction but not an allergic one to something the body sees as an irritant?
by lillymunster 8/7/2011 3:12:06 PM

cesium is a heavy metal and a poison no matter of its radioactivity. so i would expect poisonings rather than allergies. cesium was very toxic in animal tests.
by Edano 8/7/2011 3:12:49 PM

inflammatory reaction = fever, white blood cells up., tachycardia (heart frequency up)
by Edano 8/7/2011 3:14:16 PM

allergic reaction is individual, only a small percentage of people will react allergic to a certain substance, while intoxication and inflammation would be uniform in the individuals.
by Edano 8/7/2011 3:19:30 PM

@lillymunster @Edano without being morbid it must be fascinating to study these things if you can detach your 'research' head from your emotional being
by elainekirk 8/7/2011 3:19:57 PM

@elainekirk ooh i am sure there are lots of researchers, just like they examined eagerly the a-bomb effects. the nazis made valuable contributions to medicine as well. :(
by Edano 8/7/2011 3:21:39 PM

the US army also studied on dogs extensively before and after the war to try to determine the effects of radioactive substances. Then they moved to humans
by lillymunster 8/7/2011 3:27:53 PM