Japan Earthquake

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@elainekirk Sorry.... I should have told you earlier.
by ikrockhopper 8/14/2011 1:08:07 AM

@ikrockhopper there is no problem it is taking me places I found but now I can go further
by elainekirk 8/14/2011 1:09:00 AM

@ikrockhopper we all have struggled with clear unbiased information on radiation exposure and what risk various kinds of exposure carry. Understanding a risk in a percentage value is easier to understand and deal with than "below limits" or "no immediate harm to human health".
by lillymunster 8/14/2011 1:13:06 AM

How do you break down this mindset moshimoshimo.wordpress.com
by elainekirk 8/14/2011 1:13:41 AM

@ikrockhopper ohio gozaimasu. That Chernobyl group looks crazy. Are they part of the Happiness Realization Party, or a different new religion?
by bo 8/14/2011 1:15:39 AM

@lillymunster Yes, "below limits" doesnt work, because the value is not accompanied with probability. % will work. One thing is here. Someone tweeted the other day. At a lecture on radiation, the lecturer said, 'no worries, only 5 in 1000 babies will have cancer.' Audience were so upset. Even if it's true, some people think it's outrageously high, and others think it's just statistical risk (ie, natural or random).
by ikrockhopper 8/14/2011 1:16:43 AM

Ms. Mika Noro, the represent of the NPO, said, “Parents who have extreme anxiety disorder are about 10 % in the interviewees.
What is that woman on for goodness sake ?!?!
by elainekirk 8/14/2011 1:16:56 AM

Nine Mile Point Nuclear Power Plant Shuts Down

SCRIBA, N.Y. — Officials at Constellation Energy are investigating a leakage in a containment structure that caused the shutdown of the Nine Mile Point Unit 2 reactor on Lake Ontario over the weekend.

The Oswego Palladium-Times reports that the reactor remained shut down Sunday after a "higher-than-normal leakage" was discovered inside the facility's drywell (http://bit.ly/qVJmf3 ). The incident was classified as an "unusual event," the lowest level of nuclear power plant emergencies.

Constellation Energy Nuclear Group spokeswoman Jill Lyon said the drywell is the containment structure surrounding the reactor vessel and associated piping. She said the reactor will remain shut down until the necessary repairs and post maintenance testing are finished.

Neil Sheehan of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission said it appears the source of the leakage is a valve on a recirculation pump.
online.wsj.com
by bo 8/14/2011 1:17:47 AM

@bo that always gets me "higher than normal leakage" so leaking radioactive pipes is normal?
by lillymunster 8/14/2011 1:21:23 AM

@elainekirk ugh, everytime I click a link, this page is gone :( I will read it later. It's kind of lengty. But, I saw this person every once in a while on Twitter. Not bad.
by ikrockhopper 8/14/2011 1:21:28 AM

@bo Ohayo gozaimasu! Different, I guess. Happily religion doesnt endorse EM. Just saying low-dose rad is good for health.
by ikrockhopper 8/14/2011 1:22:36 AM

@ikrockhopper she is ok I follow her but that mika nora quote at the end yuk!
by elainekirk 8/14/2011 1:23:13 AM

@ikrockhopper her (mika) 'charity' must be quite wealthy docs.google.com
by elainekirk 8/14/2011 1:24:33 AM

@bo Thank you! I am going to tweet it in JP later, the shutdown.
by ikrockhopper 8/14/2011 1:25:08 AM

@elainekirk Mika Noro, not Nora. lol "nora" in japanese means, "strayed" like cats and dogs :)
by ikrockhopper 8/14/2011 1:28:15 AM

@elainekirk wow! huge donation!
by ikrockhopper 8/14/2011 1:29:16 AM

that willl be just one of many do you have access to charity accounts in Japann?
by elainekirk 8/14/2011 1:30:47 AM

@elainekirk I think I will, but it's not necessary at this point, I think. Her lecture is popular, and many believe EM and others (like fermented rice water) to reduce radiation. But, the fad is going down, due to the interview, and also, people started seeing EM/water don't work to reduce Sv. (So many people own a counter these days!)
by ikrockhopper 8/14/2011 1:32:53 AM

@ikrockhopper thats good :)
by elainekirk 8/14/2011 1:34:11 AM

I am so tired it is nearly 3 a m
by elainekirk 8/14/2011 1:35:38 AM

you should go to bed, Elaine-san!
by ikrockhopper 8/14/2011 1:36:07 AM

I'm gonna start translating the health one :) Have a good sleep. See you soon, everyone! and, Thank you for your supports and help, as always.
by ikrockhopper 8/14/2011 1:37:19 AM

@ikrockhopper yes I should my mind is fuddled need sleep thank you for all your help
by elainekirk 8/14/2011 1:37:51 AM

Good night elaine, and see you later ikrockhopper. Thanks to you both!
by bo 8/14/2011 1:38:18 AM

@ikrockhopper see you tomight hope translate goes well I am looking forward to it
by elainekirk 8/14/2011 1:38:31 AM

Nite Elaine, Have a good day Rockhopper. :-)
by lillymunster 8/14/2011 1:39:00 AM

Fukushima farmers in a jam / Fruit growers see orders plunge due to fears over radiation www.yomiuri.co.jp
by lillymunster 8/14/2011 2:08:21 AM

Everyone I know here is being very cautious about where the food they buy comes from. The lack of rigorous testing up in Tohoku is going to sink all farmers in the area.
by bo 8/14/2011 2:11:32 AM

@bo it is insanely frustrating to watch. The farmers in the article are doing everything they can and being honest about the rad level. But should people be eating even lowly contaminated food on a daily basis? It is alot to ask. The solution is to properly compensate the farmers. I don't know if some of the minimally contaminated farms have the potential to decontaminate the soil enough to be safe in a few years but this isn't even on the table.
by lillymunster 8/14/2011 2:15:16 AM

There is no leadership of any sort. Everyone is on their own.
by bo 8/14/2011 2:27:12 AM

@bo this seems to be the core of all the problems. People can't evacuate, farmers are giving no real functional options. The core component where govt. at the very basic is supposed to do something and they just are not. I am hoping the big pack of lawyers can do something to force the issue but I have no clue what the courts in Japan are like.
by lillymunster 8/14/2011 2:29:56 AM

I think that the fact that this all happened right after political power finally shifted away from the LDP is really complicating matters. As a friend said, you have a lot of small minded politicians as part of the Democratic Party coalition, little familiarity with the mechanisms of power, and an opposition using the catastrophe for petty political gain. So there is a real gridlock in dealing with the issues.
by bo 8/14/2011 2:32:22 AM

@bo Yuk. dysfunctional govt.. I don't know enough about how the Diet vs the Prime Minister etc. work and if one person in charge really has the ability to force action.
by lillymunster 8/14/2011 2:34:21 AM

The sad truth is that the horror of these incidents unfolds slowly while political time is measured in nanoseconds. So there is never, ever an adequate political response to nuclear events. Societies need a secure and long-term thinking organizational structure to respond that transcends party politics and thinks of social welfare over decades. It just never happens. And so we are stuck with the current situation and the fact that in the end almost nothing will be done to help people and to remediate land.
by bo 8/14/2011 2:37:22 AM

@bo months back there were people who hadn't really been paying attention to everything going on who said such a thing wouldn't happen in the US. There is this illusion that the govt will immediately swoop in and save the day.
by lillymunster 8/14/2011 2:44:07 AM

Yes, yes. Just like in Katrina. Just like they have taken care of the people of Eastern Washington and downwind from the Nevada Test Site. Just like we take care of our poor and elderly. America: a can-do compassionate society.
by bo 8/14/2011 2:46:56 AM

And lets not forget our stellar treatment of our own war wounded.
by bo 8/14/2011 2:49:00 AM

You pretty much nailed it. :-) People here have a false sense of security that is really a hard illusion to break. Not that people need to live in constant fear but it is so blindly overconfident. \
by lillymunster 8/14/2011 2:52:01 AM

The federal government does not see itself as in the business of meeting people's needs.
by bo 8/14/2011 2:53:04 AM

@bo LMAO. I could see the hubby's department adopting that as a mantra. He works in IT.
by lillymunster 8/14/2011 2:54:08 AM

Our myths in America have always encouraged us to conflate ourselves and our needs with those of our ruling class. It is the great American illusion.
by bo 8/14/2011 2:56:28 AM

@bo try telling an angry redneck that. :-) They get crazy upset. Now that I think about it, it is the same kind of upset people get when you try to point out that the govt isn't going to sweep in and save the day if a nuke plant melts down here.
by lillymunster 8/14/2011 2:58:29 AM

Denial--it's the most beautiful river in the entire world.
by bo 8/14/2011 3:00:25 AM

I think the best protest sign I have seen in a long time was a group in NYC last week. The sign pointed out that Indian Point NPP was 35 miles away and it asked what would you do when it melts down.
by lillymunster 8/14/2011 3:00:49 AM

Well the answer is unfortunately self evident. And of course you know, all the US nukes are spun off as LLCs and so there will be no liability on the part of the power companies. All help will come from the federal government, and in the current political climate that means almost no help at all. If something happens at Indian Point, or any other NPP, the local people are just plain fu#ked. Just like the people and farmers in Tohoku.
by bo 8/14/2011 3:03:44 AM