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@hudebnik I saw a reference to this but no story, thanks for finding that.

I wondered if we should suggest these stand alone hepa filters since the blow clean air back out that they might kick more contamination airborne by disturbing dust. Then again they seem to lower the overall content in a room well.

@elainekirk humor after a disaster can be risky. It was a while before entertainment in the US would touch anything related to 9-11

I am currently re-reading an article from one of the Hanford groups about the past deception and security around Hanford. Pretty good read if anyone is interested in WWII type stuff or Hanford. I see lots of similarities with GoJ and TEPCO www.hanfordchallenge.org

@elainekirk I know there was a problem where pensioners and those who already lived with assistance got cut off because they were in a shelter so they lost whatever Japan uses for food assistance and some other program. It put people into a weird limbo where they couldn't move out of the shelter due to lost benefits.

there are billions of yen in donations in Japan that hasnt found its way to the people at first I thought it incompetence but now I suspect it is being blocked so the people comply with orders to return/stay in contaminated areas

@elainekirk International red cross needs to investigate. They seemed to have dumped a bunch of cash and left. :-( I think the small charities and some of the ad-hoc groups that popped up like IDRO and the animal rescues are better at filling the gaps where the big charities are screwing up.

@elainekirk as i have seen others mention in recent days, there needs to be some large scale relocation. From what I have read there is excess housing in many areas, the challenge would be finding people jobs.

More people means more need for services. I think the bigger factor is the desire to deny the unsafe situation by the govt. I can see big lawsuits in 5 years where people sue for damages due to the govt. inaction or forcing people to stay in areas deemed safe that are not. Logic would say to cut losses now and lot injure people. I don't know enough about the Emperors position but wonder if him saying something would matter.

@Peter Melzer we are going to have to force the issue

@Peter Melzer they are telling people the city water is totally safe and in many cases telling people an area is safe. Yes they should be providing things like that but it seems to then be an admission something is wrong. This reminds me of the video of the townspeople going after the guy from the national govt. Nobody is buying the lie yet it is repeated.

@Peter Melzer Where I am at with the water filters. The original company Dean found will not provide test results. Dean asked and I asked both the distributor and the manufacturer and got either dodgy answers or no answers. I have concerns distributing a filter that they won't provide data on. There are some readily available reverse osmosis systems including whole house units. So I am thinking maybe we need to look into 2 RO options. The HEPA filter for AC/Heat units seem to all be various sizes for each unit. So not sure there. The in room hepa filters enviroreporter used are promising. Thinking maybe they are an easier to distribute option. Then the only issues are making sure we purchase with proper power plugs and plumbing hook ups.
I also talked to Gemini with the orphanage charity. She wants to look into doing an install at one of the orphanages closer to the problem areas since they have more need. They are willing to do site survey an installs for us at the orphanages. Once I have a coherant list of products we can move forward with everything else as far as pitching for fundraising and distribution by other NGOs via Bo's co-worker

astonishing, isn't it ? the japanese ignore the danger.

EU advises more extensive radiation tests on fish

The European Union has advised its members to conduct radiation tests on marine products from countries other than Japan in the South China Sea and Pacific regions.

Since the nuclear accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant in March, the EU has been checking the levels of radioactive cesium and iodine in food products imported from Japan.

Marine products caught in waters around Japan have also been subject to the tests.

But the EU has now advised inspection authorities to voluntarily check marine products imported from other countries as well.
The recommended tests cover marine products from a wide area stretching from the South China Sea to the Pacific Ocean to the US west coast.

NHK's correspondent in Brussels says that if radioactive material above the legal limit is found in products that have been exported by countries from these areas, then those countries may seek damages from Japan.

The EU says there have been no reports of marine products exceeding safety limits for radioactivity. The Japanese government maintains that the chance of this happening is very slim, but it also says it will continue to monitor the results of tests conducted by EU nations.

Saturday, August 13, 2011 02:29 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp

the japanese mentality astonishes me every day. i would never come to the idea to use an irradiated autobahn next to a crippled nuke plant. i don't understand it.

Radiation supplementary reading material, the decision of the Ministry of Education distributed to schools nationwide in September
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They are going to teach the children that radiation is safe ...sick just got sicker

Hi Dean!

@elainekirk I think that brochure got soundly blasted after it was given out.

There seems to be a disconnect. You can tell others that someone exposed to radiation is no danger to others without going all in and claim that the radiation from the meltdowns is harmless.

3rd day in september is the japanese holiday of respect for the aged day to respect the elderly and celebrate long life... unfortunately the long terms of this disaster will affect long life for perhaps many

fantastic elaine... you, lilly, and Edano.. GOLD STAR

@lillymunster but they are still enough to cause a traffic jam.