Japan Earthquake

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The expressway is on the other side of the larger mountain range. It seems to be somewhat far away from the plant. en.wikipedia.org
by lillymunster 8/13/2011 6:52:56 PM

good tweets @ elaine
by dean 8/13/2011 6:54:23 PM

@elainekirk , I read in the tepco news that they suspect that the black smoke may stem from either burning rubber gaskets or burning lubrication oil. The latter is used to lubricate turbines and valves in the coolant injection systems for example.
by Peter Melzer 8/13/2011 6:54:32 PM

@Peter Melzer could it be floating on the pool surface that would fit with the tweet the water llost leaving the oil burning?
by elainekirk 8/13/2011 6:58:28 PM

@lillymunster don't you remember the radiation map ? readings were very high along the expressway.
by Edano 8/13/2011 6:58:39 PM

Tokyo lawyers launch team to mediate with TEPCO
Lawyers in Tokyo are uniting to legally support people and companies affected
Looks like the lawyers are grouping for the big legal battle... "by the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
Lawyers belonging to Tokyo's three bar associations set up a legal team on
Friday. They say they will begin with about 50 lawyers and increase the number
to several hundred."
by dean 8/13/2011 7:01:39 PM

@Peter Melzer if so, then there must be a fire, right ?
by Edano 8/13/2011 7:04:03 PM

@dean are the judges going to be pocket dwellers if so they have a long road ahead
by elainekirk 8/13/2011 7:04:59 PM

The move comes ahead of the start of the government's organization next month
to mediate compensation disputes with Tokyo Electric Power Company. Offices
for the organization will be set up in Tokyo and Fukushima Prefecture to handle
settlements.
The leader of the legal team, Teruhisa Maruyama, says the compensation system
is complicated and difficult for ordinary people to understand and that the
lawyers hope to help those affected receive appropriate damages.
by dean 8/13/2011 7:05:47 PM

@ peter, hi.. have there been recent black smoke incidents?
by dean 8/13/2011 7:06:28 PM

www3.nhk.or.jp

Radiation effect on children's thyroid glands

A survey shows that a small amount of radioactive iodine has been detected in the thyroid glands of hundreds of children in Fukushima Prefecture.

The result was reported to a meeting of the Japan Pediatric Society in Tokyo on Saturday.

A group of researchers led by Hiroshima University professor Satoshi Tashiro tested 1,149 children in the prefecture for radiation in their thyroid glands in March following the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. Radioactive iodine was detected in about half of the children.

Tashiro says radiation in thyroid glands exceeding 100 millisieverts poses a threat to humans, but that the highest level in the survey was 35 millisieverts.

Tashiro says based on the result, it is unlikely that thyroid cancer will increase in the future, but that health checks must continue to prepare for any eventuality.

Sunday, August 14, 2011 02:16 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano via Www3.nhk.or.jp 8/13/2011 7:07:39 PM

blablabla
by Edano 8/13/2011 7:07:43 PM

Wow, they are still trotting out that 100msv line?
by lillymunster 8/13/2011 7:10:14 PM

@Edano have they not tested since March??? they are touting results of tests in the first month as relevant to the position after 5months exposure !!!
by elainekirk 8/13/2011 7:12:17 PM

Dean, I think the biggest hurdle right now is for people in Japan to understand what levels in the environment are truly worrisome and the levels on up. The same with human exposure. They are getting either "everything is safe" from the govt. or fringe "everyone is going to die" and no factual info to get a real idea of risks and what those risks or implications are.
by lillymunster 8/13/2011 7:13:43 PM

this really leaves me speechless.
by Edano 8/13/2011 7:13:59 PM

Reactor halts push up thermal plant fuel costs

Japanese power companies are suffering from rising fuel costs for their thermal plants, following shutdowns of nuclear reactors due to the March 11th disaster or regular inspections. Over 70 percent of the country's 54 nuclear reactors are currently out of service.

Costs of oil, natural gas, and other fossil fuels for 10 power companies from April to June rose more than 30 percent from the amount a year earlier to over one trillion yen, or about 13 billion dollars.

Tokyo Electric Power Company has increased operations of its thermal plants to cope with power shortages following the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant in March.
The company's fuel costs for the April to June period were over 5.2 billion dollars, marking a 28 percent year-on-year increase.
Tohoku Electric Power Company, covering northeastern Japan, including disaster-hit areas, saw a fuel cost increase of nearly 60 percent. The company has halted all 3 reactors at its Onagawa nuclear plant in Miyagi Prefecture since the disaster.

Fuel costs also rose over 50 percent for Kyushu Electric, covering southwestern Japan. The utility has decided to postpone the restart of 2 reactors after regular inspections at its Genkai nuclear power plant.

Utility companies will have to face further fuel cost increases, as there are no prospects for restarting their halted reactors and fuel prices are still going up.

Sunday, August 14, 2011 02:16 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 8/13/2011 7:15:45 PM

lets hope the groups that are trying as we are can get the word out.. i thought of a big billboard with the right information
by dean 8/13/2011 7:16:09 PM

@dean , hi, I thought reading about it in one of the tweets.
by Peter Melzer 8/13/2011 7:17:22 PM

If we were able to find data that says "x" dose on a thyroid scan = "y" % risk of developing thyroid cancer etc. Would really help people get a grip on risk. I am struggling with finding clear statements like that.
by lillymunster 8/13/2011 7:18:36 PM

@dean, here is: "@ Tightrope_jpn: that black smoke rising from the vicinity of Unit 4, ..."
by Peter Melzer edited by dean 8/13/2011 7:19:12 PM

be back.. lunch time ty Peter,,,
by dean 8/13/2011 7:19:35 PM

I'm out for a few hours will check in when I get back
by lillymunster 8/13/2011 7:23:54 PM

@lillymunster , this should be in the Chernobyl data. Perhaps this helps: Cardis et al. Risk of cancer after low doses of ionising radiation: retrospective cohort study in 15 countries. BMJ. 2005 Jul 9;331(7508):77. Epub 2005 Jun 29. www.bmj.com
by Peter Melzer 8/13/2011 7:24:22 PM

@Peter Melzer I will pin that when it moves down great find
by elainekirk 8/13/2011 7:36:05 PM

@Peter Melzer what does this say (2).pdf
by elainekirk 8/13/2011 7:47:16 PM

what is the mgy equivalent of the childs 35msv throid reading?
by elainekirk 8/13/2011 7:51:17 PM

@elainekirk that is exactly what they don't tell us !!!
by Edano 8/13/2011 7:52:10 PM

shucks found this docs.google.com
by elainekirk 8/13/2011 7:59:54 PM

@lilymunster Hanford one for you
Over the United States Holocaust noiseless "Hanford nuclear facility," Library
2011-07-20 13:00:00 | Nuclear relations
Potatoes are McDonald's and KFC seems to have been planted around the Hanford nuclear facility. Japan is a good friend of America and yellow monkey.
translate.google.com
by elainekirk 8/13/2011 8:05:52 PM

Host families are everywhere in Japan,even out of Japan-Families willing to take in mothers and children from Fukushima! translate.google.com Network evacuation mothers "hahako"
Mothers support network evacuation "hahako" in a safe place for their baby mothers pregnant women as many people ...? Acceptance of private information, and orientation of empty houses, not individual organizations, information has been waiting for an acceptable long-term or temporary. Request - on the right) accepting information from - please send here.
by Mid Valley 8/13/2011 8:42:26 PM

@Mid Valley greetings mid valley
by elainekirk 8/13/2011 8:47:17 PM

Hi @Elainekirk! Just dropping by to post the link for host families! This idea was very successful in Christchurch, NZ after the quake! It is taking off in Japan now. Wonderful idea.
by Mid Valley 8/13/2011 8:49:04 PM

@elainekirk, it says: "The page cannot be found."

by Peter Melzer 8/13/2011 9:06:32 PM

oops sry which one peter?
by elainekirk 8/13/2011 9:16:26 PM

@Peter Melzer docs.google.com that is an icrp doc
by elainekirk 8/13/2011 9:19:11 PM

@Mid Valley it is very good I wonder how successful the placements are
by elainekirk 8/13/2011 9:22:22 PM

@elainekirk , I got it. Table 3 in (2).pdf says the estimated effective dose for I-131 accumulation in the adult thyroid is: 24 milliSv/MBq. At least
by Peter Melzer 8/13/2011 9:28:17 PM

@Peter Melzer can you explain it more is that what level they say is dangerous for and adult or foetus or ...excuse my ignorance
by elainekirk 8/13/2011 9:30:45 PM

Thank you Peter for the Chernobyl document!
Elaine, looking at the Hanford potato one. I saw a reference that when they sold off some of the outer land at Hanford it became apple orchards. :-( Yuk.
by lillymunster 8/13/2011 9:35:08 PM

G'day @all
@lillymunster Re your earlier question, 'EM?':
"Effective Microorganisms, aka EM Technology, is a trademarked term now commonly used to describe a proprietary blend of 3 or more types of predominantly anaerobic organisms that was originally marketed as EM-1 Microbial Inoculant but is now marketed by a plethora of companies under various names, each with their own proprietary blend. "EM Technology" uses a laboratory cultured mixture of microorganisms consisting mainly of lactic acid bacteria, purple bacteria, and yeast. Various em-like culture purveyors claim these microorganisms co-exist and have beneficial effects in some environments." en.wikipedia.org

EM Technology simply explained: www.efficientmicrobes.co.za

Using EM to Counteract Radiation: www.emrojapan.com
by es 8/13/2011 9:38:12 PM

@elainekirk , it does not say. This table lists coefficients to estimate absorbed doses from radioactivity of different radionuclides detected in various organs. The coefficient for I-131 pertains to 35% iodide uptake in the adult thyroid. I wish I knew whether you could use for children.
by Peter Melzer 8/13/2011 9:40:10 PM