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@RadioGuy yeah there is somethoing wrong with a world that lets a corporation pollute the planet for over 5 months without demanding at the very least oversight
by elainekirk 8/20/2011 9:46:24 PM

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by dean 8/20/2011 9:47:58 PM

english.kyodonews.jp

Goalkeeper Kawashima protests about 'Fukushima' chants
Japanese goalkeeper Eiji Kawashima (front L) protests to the referee (front R) after Germinal supporters chant ''Fukushima! Fukushima!'' at the Lierse custodian, in apparent reference to the nuclear crisis in Japan, during a 1-1 draw in Lierse, Belgium, on Aug. 19, 2011. Kawashima said later, ''To use Fukushima the way they did is no joke.'' (Kyodo) english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 8/20/2011 9:48:17 PM

@lillymunster While following up the high rad readings in St, Louis, I came up with this. Another one for the US nuclear hopper. From the NYT, 1990: www.nytimes.com/1990/03/24/us/mountain-of-nuclear-waste-splits-st-louis-and-suburbs-888.html

"Nearly half a century after a company here began processing fuel for nuclear weapons, St. Louis and several western suburbs are battling over a new disposal plan for millions of cubic yards of dirt contaminated with uranium, thorium, radium, actinium and other radioactive elements that are polluting the water, soil and air.

Not even in Denver, where plutonium particles escaped from the nearby Rocky Flats Plant, or in Salt Lake City, where a pile of uranium wastes was recently moved from the city to the desert, has a major metropolitan area contended with radioactive wastes on the scale facing St. Louis.

Until 1966, Mallinckrodt processed uranium for nuclear weapons at its main plant along the Mississippi River in downtown St. Louis and in Weldon Spring, 25 miles to the west."
by RadioGuy 8/20/2011 9:56:45 PM

www.nytimes.com
by RadioGuy 8/20/2011 9:57:17 PM

@RadioGuy I wonder if that has contributed to economic issues in St. Louis?
by lillymunster 8/20/2011 10:00:17 PM

Maybe what they feared with the EPA monitoring was that people would realize how bad the background radiation levels have been already due to our own rugunderswept nuclear past (to make up a compound noun German-stylee. :)
by RadioGuy 8/20/2011 10:03:51 PM

www.tepco.co.jp
I was looking for drywell sensor when I came across this doc of noncomformities at daiichi nov 2004-feb 2005 just posting it doubt it is useful apart from showing how much they can get wrong in a 4 month period
by elainekirk 8/20/2011 10:08:22 PM

heh
by RadioGuy 8/20/2011 10:09:24 PM

Oh this may be useful it is the techi stuff on #3 when the shroud was replaced www.jnes.go.jp
by elainekirk 8/20/2011 10:20:11 PM

@lillymunster Here's a timeline document on the St. Louis District's contributions to nuclear weapons and the cleanup till the last 5,100 cubic yard of waste were removed, the most contaminated building was demolished and removed, and the plans were laid to replace the two bridges they used for transport. www.mvs.usace.army.mil
by RadioGuy 8/20/2011 10:20:57 PM

@RadioGuy People assume there wasn't any aftermath of all the weapons creation or testing. If you go look you find lots of Superfund sites. It really is a big mess.
by lillymunster 8/20/2011 10:23:32 PM

Apparently the Army now admits that the trucks used to transport the plant's waste dirt and sludge was "inappropriate and careless". From 2003:
The 87 locations of SLAPs and its VPs include the SLAPS, the Latty Avenue Properties Hazelwood Interim Storage Site (HISS), Futura Coatings and Latty Avenue VPs, Coldwater Creek, and major roadways that include parts of Pershall Road and McDonnell Blvd. The latter were heavily contaminated with radioactive dirt and waste sludge from the downtown St. Louis Mallinckrodt/AEC plants while being transported in open bed trucks to the North county storage sites. The Army admits that the manner of this waste truck transport was inappropriate and careless. Now the taxpayers must pay the price of that negligence. Westlake Landfill, which also received radioactive waster from SLDS, is not covered under this Feasibility Study and Proposed Plan.
-- www.stlconfluence.org
by RadioGuy 8/20/2011 10:23:43 PM

@elainekirk That document is useful to tell us what they were up to at #4 before the quake. Same process underway.
by lillymunster 8/20/2011 10:25:50 PM

@RadioGuy Tarps were too much to ask?
by lillymunster 8/20/2011 10:26:45 PM

@lillymunster @RadioGuy are these US contaminations mapped in a layperson friendly way? ie googlemap where you get pop up description for each flag ?
by elainekirk 8/20/2011 10:29:35 PM

@lillymunster Yeah, the more you look into it the more maddening it becomes. The trucking subcontractors (and in fact Mallinckrodt itself) were apparently not considered Superfund "responsible parties". Innocent bystanders, were they? I guess all those truck drivers went the way of Fukushima's disposable workers...vanished into history untagged.
by RadioGuy 8/20/2011 10:31:31 PM

It would be unreasonable of anyone to expect tepco to have known about the valve drive that failed in 2009 because after all it had passed inspection in 1972
www2.jnes.go.jp
by elainekirk 8/20/2011 10:43:28 PM

@elainekirk Here's the EPA list of Superfund sites. www.epa.gov From it I found this document about the remaining biggie in the St. Louis cleanup, the West Lake Landfill. Document from June 2010: www.epa.gov
by RadioGuy 8/20/2011 10:43:35 PM

Oops...here's the West Lake link: www.epa.gov
by RadioGuy 8/20/2011 10:44:04 PM

@elainekirk heh... if you don't look for it, it's not there. Classic head-in-the-sand behavior.
by RadioGuy 8/20/2011 10:45:27 PM

I wonder where in that shroud decontamination and replacement process R4 was.
by RadioGuy 8/20/2011 10:46:31 PM

@RadioGuy they were scheduled for shroud in #4 that was why it was shut down with all that fuel moved to the pool and equipment about - remember a few weeks ago when they were talking of having to keep parts cooled?
by elainekirk 8/20/2011 10:54:41 PM

@RadioGuy IIRC #4 started shutdown for shroud replacement in Nov. 2010. If there is a schedule in that #3 document we could guess it
by lillymunster 8/20/2011 10:56:16 PM

@lillymunster Do we have a writeup on the worker reports of plant damage between the EQ and the tsunami?
by RadioGuy 8/20/2011 10:56:31 PM

@RadioGuy do you mean all the bits and pieces they told the media? No I don't think we have it all in one place
by lillymunster 8/20/2011 10:57:03 PM

I found the Adelstein story on the site. That's at least got the bits in it.
by RadioGuy 8/20/2011 10:58:44 PM

the other day we found a potential leakage point in the base of #3 containment I believe need @edano to confirm
I just found what looks like a weakness in the base of #1's in a control rod valve - www2.jnes.go.jp
by elainekirk 8/20/2011 11:05:14 PM

Oh look they hadnt signed this off but it says tepco was going to do the work and tepco wouldnt put it on hold would they? they wouldnt think ..we will never lose the leccy suply ... www2.jnes.go.jp
by elainekirk 8/20/2011 11:19:28 PM

@RadioGuy would it be of use to spreadsheet the statements by unit ?
by lillymunster 8/20/2011 11:31:05 PM

@elainekirk We should ask Dean if that is one of the graphite gaskets on the control rod system or something else. The graphite seals were expected to burn through first. I don't know if the hydraulic line has the same thing or not?
by lillymunster 8/20/2011 11:33:11 PM

@elainekirk OOPS! As a result of the circuit breaker inspection at the power panel, it was confirmed that part of the components was assembled in reverse and deformed.
by lillymunster 8/20/2011 11:35:08 PM

March 22nd
evac in 20km zone and stay indoors in 20 - 30 km zone were ALMOST completed
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March 16th order given to local gov to administer stable iodine during the evacuation from the 20km zone
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docs.google.com
by elainekirk 8/20/2011 11:38:52 PM

That ties in with the iodine only being given out in evac centres that I read
by elainekirk 8/20/2011 11:41:38 PM

@lillymunster have you seen rockhopper & co?
by elainekirk 8/20/2011 11:46:40 PM

Not for a while. I am jumping between making dinner, etc. She sounded tired from her trip earlier today
by lillymunster 8/20/2011 11:56:49 PM

@lillymunster just noticed I missed that ty
by elainekirk 8/21/2011 12:00:19 AM

by elainekirk 8/21/2011 12:18:52 AM

Must sleep have a good night/day scribblers
by elainekirk 8/21/2011 12:41:49 AM

nite Elaine
by lillymunster 8/21/2011 12:42:50 AM

by Majj 8/21/2011 12:51:11 AM

Sarry not working as well as first claimed. ex-skf.blogspot.com
by lillymunster 8/21/2011 1:02:36 AM

The government has 20 days for some of the surrounding areas contaminated with high concentrations of radioactive materials accident TEPCO's Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station, and it is difficult to judge a long time resident, the area cleared without warning, her officials enter decided to continue the ban.

They have a view of the subsequent decades. The local government is directly accountable to the prime minister, is considering a long-term direction of the evacuation apologize. The specific area, Fukushima Futaba, to examine in mind and within 3 km of primary dormitory leader Okuma.

The government in April, is set to ban warning area within 20 km from entering the primary principle. To stop the reactor to stabilize by mid-January, "stopped cold" to achieve, have shown a clear policy of caution zone.

However, the cumulative amount of radiation was estimated to bathe in the year after the accident in the warning area within 20 km of the Ministry of Primary Education, Okuma, and 35 points around the dormitory leader Futaba, such as a planned evacuation area significantly exceeds 20 mSv per year given as a guide. 小入野 away in town 3 km west-southwest of Okuma Primary 508.1 mSv and 393.7 mSv 夫沢 in tuning high an estimate.

(01 min during the 3rd Yomiuri Shimbun, August 21, 2011)
www.yomiuri.co.jp
by lillymunster 8/21/2011 1:23:16 AM