Japan Earthquake

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@es I notive that some of the ocean testing is of dust is this just a way of lowering the figures ?
by elainekirk 8/25/2011 4:39:33 PM

@elainekirk I don't know about that. I imagine it might be instuctive to collect atmospheric samples at ocean points as well as the sea-water samples though.
by es 8/25/2011 4:42:19 PM

@Peter Melzer tepco are not saying there is anything wrong with the pipes and in Japan the government inspector is employed by the power company - onsite for big npp's - shared by smaller npp's - tepco say the plant 5 & 6 are fine I didnt get the impression that they are looking to the future I got the impression they were looking at
the now
by elainekirk 8/25/2011 4:42:52 PM

i bet they will never get them running again. :)
by Edano 8/25/2011 4:44:18 PM

www.tepco.co.jp
@es ah thats good I just had visions of tepcos state of the art dust collection facility giving very low readings
by elainekirk via Tepco.co.jp 8/25/2011 4:44:36 PM

@elainekirk i have this in my kitchen !
by Edano 8/25/2011 4:45:21 PM

@Edano they have spent more time emptying #6 turbine basement than all the others put together very strange
by elainekirk 8/25/2011 4:46:07 PM

@elainekirk the water is not that hot, that's why.
by Edano 8/25/2011 4:46:46 PM

G'day @all. Catching up was an epic task this morning.
by RadioGuy 8/25/2011 4:51:40 PM

www.picbadges.com

first, in case anyone wants to use elaine's badge (via ikrockhopper) here's the png of it, so you have the transparency to paste it over anything else.
by RadioGuy via Picbadges 8/25/2011 4:53:29 PM

Oh, and I think I made curry for 300 in that dust collector at a reggae festival this summer.
by RadioGuy 8/25/2011 4:55:04 PM

Also, here's the page that current dispersion graph resides: www.senes.ca
by RadioGuy 8/25/2011 4:56:09 PM

@RadioGuy I love you way you write :)
by elainekirk 8/25/2011 4:58:46 PM

@RadioGuy LOL My tired brain had visions of cesium curry. ;-)
Thanks for the reminder..off to put the modeling programs on the website
by lillymunster 8/25/2011 4:58:57 PM

Someone please explain to me how you are supposed to add the pic badges? Just edit your photo or is there a program that does it on social media?
by lillymunster 8/25/2011 5:00:13 PM

@elainekirk Why ty, elaine :)
by RadioGuy 8/25/2011 5:13:42 PM

@lillymunster Re the badges - on this page there appears to be an 'Add to profile picture' app, but I haven't tried it... www.picbadges.com
by es 8/25/2011 5:16:37 PM

I just happened to be reading our pet insurance policy. It has a clause in it that they don't cover pet injury or disease from a nuclear accident....
by lillymunster 8/25/2011 5:16:58 PM

@lillymunster @es I used es's link to add to my fbook and twitter but I think you will need to screenshot one of those and add it as your profile pic on here
by elainekirk 8/25/2011 5:17:56 PM

@elainekirk got ES's link to work on my twitter. Grabbed the image radioguy posted
by lillymunster 8/25/2011 5:19:05 PM

9 candidates to vie for DPJ presidency<b/> [25 August, 2011]: www3.nhk.or.jp
"Campaign staff of candidates in the ruling Democratic Party's leadership election have gathered at a party meeting to learn about election procedures.

The campaign for party president will be announced on Saturday after the Diet passes 2 key bills on Friday.

On Thursday, staff of 9 candidates including former Foreign Minister Seiji Maehara and Finance Minister Yoshihiko Noda attended the meeting at party headquarters.

The chairman of the party's central election committee Issei Koga noted pending issues such as the March 11th disaster.

He said so he would like a proper election that revives the party and prevents the creation of a political vacuum.

398 party legislators with voting rights will cast their ballots for party president next Monday.

Separately, former Democratic Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama told followers that they need not necessarily choose from among those named.

He said the new administration must greatly change Japan's handling of the nuclear accident, and urged them to find the most appropriate person to do so."
by es 8/25/2011 5:38:49 PM

Fukushima Nuclear Crisis Update for August 19th-22nd, 2011 [24 August, 2011]: www.greenpeace.org
by es 8/25/2011 5:39:18 PM

Hi everyone. Educating the Nuclear Safety Myth. 2011.08.24 Wednesday The SNA has managed to get its hands on the textbook that TEPCO uses to train its nuclear workers and found that it contained a number of problematic assertions. shingetsublog.jugem.jp
by Cryptococcus 8/25/2011 5:49:30 PM

@es will Kan be standing for re-election
by elainekirk 8/25/2011 5:52:48 PM

@elaine, NISA report to IAEA fukushima.grs.de page 14: "To carry out cooling by the residual heat removal system, a temporary seawater pump was installed and started up, and cooling of the reactor and the spent fuel pool (of units 5 and 6, ed.) was carried out in turn by switching the system constitution for the residual heat removal system on March 19."
by Peter Melzer 8/25/2011 6:01:50 PM

@elainekirk No
by es 8/25/2011 6:04:33 PM

www.huffingtonpost.com
Washington Monument Earthquake Damage: More Cracks Found By Park Service
The National Park Service says engineers have discovered several additional cracks in the top portion of the Washington Monument.

The cracks were found Wednesday during a daylong inspection of the interior of the monument. A 4-foot crack was discovered Tuesday during an inspection of the exterior by helicopter, shortly after a 5.8-magnitude earthquake shook the nation's capital.

The monument is closed to visitors indefinitely.
by RadioGuy 8/25/2011 6:06:57 PM

@Peter Melzer maybe we should file that :(
by elainekirk 8/25/2011 6:07:00 PM

@RadioGuy shucks if they had just rung tepco they would have declared it safe and saved them the expense of repairs
by elainekirk 8/25/2011 6:09:12 PM

Earthquakes are funny... They can topple temple and cathedral spires, crack monuments, and blessedly have no effect on nuclear plants that are already known to have seismic issues. I think I'll let the theologists muse on that one. ;)
by RadioGuy 8/25/2011 6:09:23 PM

US midwest mega-quake scenario and what it would do to nuclear reactors www.theatlanticwire.com

BRB must go pillage town.. :-)
by lillymunster 8/25/2011 6:10:50 PM

Alas, no time to warn the poor town...
by RadioGuy 8/25/2011 6:12:14 PM

Idea: Since people are piling contaminated dirt and covering in plastic sheets, that will soon crack and decay in the sunlight, why not cover the plastic with straw impregnated with fungi that are resistant to ionizing radiation? Or will eat it? dadachovaradio.pdf
by Cryptococcus 8/25/2011 6:18:27 PM

Here's a study of how the highest-dose zone that runs along a NW path from the plant across Fukushima Prefecture was formed : www.jaea.go.jp It concludes that it was caused when "radioactive plume discharged in the afternoon of 15 March flowed toward the west to northwest direction from the plant. It was washed out by a rain band moved from the northwest direction and deposited on the ground over the northwest area of the plant during the period from the evening to midnight of 15 March."
by Ian 8/25/2011 6:50:51 PM

@Ian gosh they hand out information once they think the world has packed up and gone home and nobody will notice
by elainekirk 8/25/2011 6:59:55 PM

@Cryptococcus they don't seem to be considering groundwater seepage
by elainekirk 8/25/2011 7:00:42 PM

www.tepco.co.jp

This 'Work on the roof' photo is from TEPCO's archive (added August 10, 2011) and as I understand it it's showing workers drilling holes in the roofs of Daiichi Units 5 & 6 on March 18, 2011, presumably to help prevent hydrogen buildup from the SFP's and reduce the risk of further explosions at the plant.
by es via Tepco.co.jp 8/25/2011 7:00:52 PM

i53.tinypic.com

@Ian Here's a good graphic from this remarkable document: www.ansn-jp.org
by RadioGuy via I53.tinypic 8/25/2011 7:02:16 PM

@es come to think of it a road on the higher level was fracturedtoo wasn't it?
by elainekirk 8/25/2011 7:06:47 PM

@elainekirk I think TEPCO concern about groundwater left the building along with the corium. I mean, c'mon... they're getting to chase the corium with injected water trying to find it. "You hoo! Here corium corium." ;)
by RadioGuy 8/25/2011 7:10:35 PM

@elainekirk Yes, I remember that too. Badly fractured. Given that the whole mess certainly includes 5 & 6, I have to say I think it's nonsense that any of the Daiichi reactors will ever work again.
by es 8/25/2011 7:10:59 PM

Seems I remember some pretty alarming ground cracks running straight through the reactors, too. This has to be a trial balloon, I think, to guage the severity of the public (and private and governmental) response to the suggestion.
by RadioGuy 8/25/2011 7:12:57 PM

I think they need a reading on whether they are ever going to be allowed to include energy from those reactors in their plans.
by RadioGuy 8/25/2011 7:14:15 PM

They have to know the response at this time would be WTF!!!?!?!???
by RadioGuy 8/25/2011 7:14:40 PM

5&6 also is where the severed vent ducts were found in the video of the tsunami rolling in. We have not gotten lots of images of 5-6 to tell for sure about ground fissures or sinking but with the faults found near the plant and the fissure at the end of #1 it would need serious review from a seismic standpoint. Or I should say it should. We know how that usually goes.
by lillymunster 8/25/2011 7:15:14 PM