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pretty good article. All Shook Up on the East Coast www.huffingtonpost.comby Panserbjorne9 8/25/2011 8:46:42 PM
@lillymunster A smart person would compare the two Hanford stories yes? From the Fukushima site and from the Hanford site. Well, an investigative journalist would. :)by Cryptococcus 8/25/2011 8:47:16 PM- continuing thought on the handshake trigger... duh...like the Colorado quake the night before. www.sfgate.comby Cryptococcus 8/25/2011 8:51:50 PM
imagine, a little thing as small as a slow neutron can explode a fission bomb ....by Edano 8/25/2011 8:52:23 PM
@Edano I really would rather not....by elainekirk 8/25/2011 8:53:17 PM
@Panserbjorne9 A link on that leads to the Reuters story, where we see this quote: "Dominion spokesman Jim Norvelle said the plant was designed to withstand an earthquake of up to 6.2 in magnitude."
Are we cheating that number up a bit now?by RadioGuy 8/25/2011 8:55:03 PM- @RadioGuy "around 6 or so..."by Edano 8/25/2011 8:56:08 PM
- @RadioGuy yup. and not clarifying on the bad generator.by Panserbjorne9 8/25/2011 9:01:11 PM
- @Edano "roundabouts." "in the general vicinity of..."by Panserbjorne9 8/25/2011 9:01:28 PM
- @Panserbjorne9 "no immediate threat"by Edano 8/25/2011 9:02:06 PM
- "A 6.2-magnitude quake, the design value at North Anna, would more than double the ground motion and release four times the energy of a 5.8-magnitude quake" www.huffingtonpost.com Then a 9.0 quake...omg omgby Cryptococcus 8/25/2011 9:02:31 PM
- @Cryptococcus 8.9 is even more than you may imagine...by Edano 8/25/2011 9:07:47 PM
@Cryptococcus the design basis for N. Anna is 5.9-6.0. Dominion has been busy telling everyone it is 6.2. I guess to try to make it sound less of a close call.by lillymunster 8/25/2011 9:09:21 PM
www.sdgs.usd.edu a bigger graphic
by Edano via Sdgs.usd.edu 8/25/2011 9:13:47 PM- The tepco doc explaining about the fact ...erm ... well we ignored the warning of high tsunami risk because,,,,,well we knew it wouldnt happen .... who were they trying to kid....telling us there could be a 17mtr tsunami...stupid idea www.tepco.co.jpby elainekirk 8/25/2011 9:15:28 PM
- by elainekirk 8/25/2011 9:18:11 PM
by Edano via 0.tqn 8/25/2011 9:19:00 PM- Anyone interested in turning Elaine's TEPCO chart into Terabecquerels?by lillymunster 8/25/2011 9:21:25 PM
- 1 Terabq`= 10^12 [10E+12] bq = 1000 billion bqby Edano 8/25/2011 9:22:58 PM
- @Edano Pictures and graphs really help. Thank you. Now they will have to redraw those.by Cryptococcus 8/25/2011 9:23:36 PM
- so the sfp samples are not really high.by Edano 8/25/2011 9:24:58 PM
- gotta go thx everyone!by Cryptococcus 8/25/2011 9:26:04 PM
- sfp #4 for example "only" has 44,000 bq/l cs-134.by Edano 8/25/2011 9:27:36 PM
- too much to drink, but you could take a very fast bath without immediate death. [not really sure about that]by Edano 8/25/2011 9:30:04 PM
www.tepco.co.jp
@edano how does it compare to the upper part of #3 , I notice they are using cm for the densityby elainekirk 8/25/2011 9:39:30 PM- correction: Tbq = 10E+12 (19^12) bq = 1000 x 1 billion bq. sorry.by Edano 8/25/2011 9:41:42 PM
- @Edano maybe a no on the bathing thenby elainekirk 8/25/2011 9:42:52 PM
@elainekirk, what's most surprising is the high levels in SFP4. The high levels in SFP3 are likely (at least in part) from the steam plume emanating from the south side of the reactor-well rim, and has left cesium staining in the area of its output. But SFP4 could only be contaminated by its own contents. So it seems likely that there was fuel damage within SFP4.by Ian 8/25/2011 9:43:17 PM- @elainekirk no, that is correct. only the terabq was wrong :)by Edano 8/25/2011 9:44:19 PM
- @elainekirk the air readings are not nice, very dangerous. but i really wonder where the "upper part of reactor 3" is right now. there is no upper part anymore.by Edano 8/25/2011 9:45:45 PM
by elainekirk 8/25/2011 9:47:39 PM
this and pic below from this doc www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 8/25/2011 9:48:52 PM- @Ian #4 had a fresh load of fuel out of the reactor in there also, probably adding to the high levels. I am still puzzled by the pristine condition of #4's SFP on the videoby lillymunster 8/25/2011 9:48:54 PM
- @elainekirk and i wonder that they detected iodine-131 ... where does it come from ?by Edano 8/25/2011 9:48:57 PM
- I'm looking at that TEPCO document, still can't tell what that thing is, maybe I need more coffee?by lillymunster 8/25/2011 9:50:25 PM
- but #4 is not high .... the others are 1000 times higher ....by Edano 8/25/2011 9:50:26 PM
- @Edano the others are being cooled by pipes #4 is still haveing water dumped in it isnt it?by elainekirk 8/25/2011 9:51:58 PM
- @elainekirk i am not sure...by Edano 8/25/2011 9:52:50 PM
- @elainekirk they supposedly have recirculation at all sfpby lillymunster 8/25/2011 9:53:16 PM
- they will have held the sample bottle under the hosepipeby elainekirk 8/25/2011 9:53:37 PM
- @lillymunster yes, i think this is correct.by Edano 8/25/2011 9:54:46 PM
- they will have put the wrong measure somebody ought to challenge them, they will have put right measure, thought oops that is scary and reduced itby elainekirk 8/25/2011 9:54:59 PM
- @Edano uPPER PART OF r3 = whAT'S LEFT OF IT?by RadioGuy 8/25/2011 9:55:31 PM
- oopsby RadioGuy 8/25/2011 9:55:36 PM
- they have equipment pool, sfp pool, they are keeping the reactor full and they have all the new fuel that they took out ....by elainekirk 8/25/2011 9:56:27 PM
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