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yes, this is a fundamental value to begin operate the model with stochastic uncertainties.
by estacion 8/26/2011 2:29:56 AM

@lillymunster i don't know if the reactors were controlled during the tsunami. i don't think so. but the tsunami and the cooling efforts are not important in this estimation, the result stays the same.
by Edano 8/26/2011 2:30:30 AM

@estacion the source term ? but i read about the source term and the estimated release of inventory in the first paragraphs of the doc.
by Edano 8/26/2011 2:31:33 AM

@Edano right, random thought while going through this abt. tsunami
by lillymunster 8/26/2011 2:32:53 AM

as Edano says, workers and tsunami are irrelevant for results, say they were triggers
by estacion 8/26/2011 2:32:53 AM

(but i tend to read only the summaries at the end thoroughly.)
by Edano 8/26/2011 2:32:54 AM

I assumed they had a fuel load as a start point determined based on reactor size.
by lillymunster 8/26/2011 2:35:30 AM

have to sleep :o
by Edano 8/26/2011 2:35:56 AM

@lillymunster: if that were the case, Japan will cease to exist as final conclusion of this model.
by estacion 8/26/2011 2:37:30 AM

@estacion Is there something we missed?
by lillymunster 8/26/2011 2:39:00 AM

@Lilly change 'played a roll' to 'played a role'
by Panserbjorne9 8/26/2011 2:39:39 AM

@Panserbjorne9 LMAO! I shouldn't write when sleep deprived. :-)
by lillymunster 8/26/2011 2:40:11 AM

@Edano: Good dreams. UNCERTAINTY AND SENSITIVITY STUDIES WITH THE
PROBABILISTIC ACCIDENT CONSEQUENCE
ASSESSMENT CODE OSCAAR. This is the document I was referring.
www.ansn-jp.org
by estacion 8/26/2011 2:40:57 AM

@lillymunster :) fingers fail us when fatigued. It's really good, tho, content wise.
by Panserbjorne9 8/26/2011 2:41:06 AM

@estacion OSCAAR explains the modeling technology used. The IAEA and this www.ansn-jp.org are the reports of the scenario of a reactor failure.
by lillymunster 8/26/2011 2:42:31 AM

'Glass badges' remind Fukushima students of radiation risks www.asahi.com
by Panserbjorne9 8/26/2011 2:43:29 AM

"During the summer vacation, I took part in a summer camp in Nagano Prefecture for five days," said Ryusei Tashiro, an 11-year-old sixth-grader at Date Elementary School in northern Fukushima Prefecture. "In those days, I did not carry the 'badge.' But from today, I have to hang it from my neck. It is a bit bothersome to do so when I am walking."
by Panserbjorne9 8/26/2011 2:44:16 AM

@lillymunster: If al inventory was to be released, then all the country will be uninhabitable.
by estacion 8/26/2011 2:45:00 AM

*all
by estacion 8/26/2011 2:45:09 AM

@estacion I'm the messenger, not the technical analyst on this one so your going to have to tell me what your getting at. :-)
by lillymunster 8/26/2011 2:46:29 AM

In fuku there is enough redioactive inventory to make all Japan uninhabitable. If you have good enough dispersion this will hapen. This model make simulation on the uncertanty parts (that is metereological weather, dietary habits, population distribution, etc..) But one thing that can not be a uncertainty is total inventory released to the ambient, without this alll become fume.
by estacion 8/26/2011 2:55:04 AM

A failure in the container vessel can lead to a very different amounts of radioactive material expelled into the atmosphere.
by estacion 8/26/2011 2:58:42 AM

water or soil.
by estacion 8/26/2011 2:59:07 AM

@estacion So your saying a variation between a unit 2 type of containment failure vs. a chernobyl style containment failure?
by lillymunster 8/26/2011 2:59:45 AM

Precisely, and a variation between Unit 2 and 3 too.
by estacion 8/26/2011 3:01:25 AM

Got it. Will put a note to remind me to add that as a caveat on this.
by lillymunster 8/26/2011 3:02:09 AM

WOW. Strongly worded article.
Stooge Media Wipes Japan's Radioactive Horror from Minds of Americans
www.salem-news.com
by Panserbjorne9 8/26/2011 3:02:47 AM

@Panserbjorne9 From the conspiracy theory circles so no surprise.
by lillymunster 8/26/2011 3:03:53 AM

Tim King, I was guessing one of the other handful he's an "interesting" individual. :-)
by lillymunster 8/26/2011 3:04:44 AM

@lillymunster I JUST figured that out. :(
by Panserbjorne9 8/26/2011 3:04:57 AM

Dang, here I was getting all excited. I should have known.
by Panserbjorne9 8/26/2011 3:06:03 AM

'Hot spot' areas found in Fukushima city worry 'goya' growers
mdn.mainichi.jp
by Panserbjorne9 8/26/2011 3:07:11 AM

@Panserbjorne9 I kinda wish someone from a real newspaper would write something along those lines
by lillymunster 8/26/2011 3:10:57 AM

@Mod can you please free me on the other board, thankyou!:-)
by Thunder 8/26/2011 3:11:00 AM

A trailer for the documentary : RadioActivists Protests in Japan since Fukushima. Detailed intimate encounters with anti-nuke activism in Japan.
by Ian 8/26/2011 3:11:12 AM

Thunder your free on both boards
by lillymunster 8/26/2011 3:11:37 AM

@Lilly thankyou!:-)
by Thunder 8/26/2011 3:14:18 AM

I'm taking my sleep deprived self to bed. Nite all!
by lillymunster 8/26/2011 3:15:05 AM

@lillymunster Sweet dreams.
by estacion 8/26/2011 3:16:19 AM

Reuters) - Firefighters struggled on Thursday to control a 1,100-acre wildfire burning within several miles of a storage area for spent nuclear fuel at a U.S. Energy Department lab in the high desert of eastern Idaho. www.reuters.com
by M.I.A. 8/26/2011 3:32:53 AM

Not sure if we already have a copy of this study: Atmospheric behavior, deposition, and budget of radioactive materials from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in March 2011 www.nies.go.jp
by Mid Valley 8/26/2011 5:25:29 AM

Report says and shows that after the Virginia quake, North Anna Lake dropped 22 inches in one day www.youtube.com According to this report www.wtvr.com "Dominion says each of the plant’s two nuclear reactors pumps one million gallons of water a minute into the North Anna Lake. Dominion says that flow was disrupted during the power outage, but posed no risk to the public."
by Ian 8/26/2011 6:06:55 AM

But why was water flow disrupted if the generators kicked in to run the cooling? There might be a good answer, I don't know.
by Ian 8/26/2011 6:09:07 AM

As you'll see there's now a new strut of Unit #1's magic curtain structure visible via teppycam. This was the main mega-crane action (2011-08-26 10:00-11:00): www.youtube.com
by es 8/26/2011 8:08:08 AM

@Ian Gee, a lake drop of 22 inches seems like a substantial amount of water loss. Do you know if levels are still falling there?
by es 8/26/2011 8:35:59 AM

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