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@elainekirk I saw that, not sure what to think of it. Why would they do that? Does it throw off true levels?
by lillymunster 9/1/2011 10:32:25 PM

@elainekirk are the people supposed to pay it back?
by lillymunster 9/1/2011 10:33:48 PM

@lillymunster it is confusing the hell out of me, the doc was lookingok till I read that and then I start to think is all the money in the form of loans?
by elainekirk 9/1/2011 10:34:01 PM

@elainekirk I have to take off. Will read it tonight and see if I can make any sense of it.
by lillymunster 9/1/2011 10:35:28 PM

not only pay it back they have to prove death was caused by disaster , suppose someone is elderly and succumbs weeks later

・" Regarding the provision of condolence money in case of disaster, Prefectural Governments were notified that
in case it is difficult to make a decision whether the death of a person was caused by the disaster, a committee
could be set up independently by municipalities and also the municipalities could delegate the establishment
and management of the committee to the Prefectural Governments if an agreement was established between
the municipalities and the Prefectural Government upon consultation. (June 17"
by elainekirk 9/1/2011 10:37:22 PM

Jumping through hoops for the money to bury your loved ones when you are in all probability homeless and without income and having to find a way to pay that money back
by elainekirk 9/1/2011 10:39:11 PM

27th Aug radioactivity.mext.go.jp
by elainekirk 9/1/2011 10:55:12 PM

Disaster drills held nationwide / Country prepares for possible large quake, tsunami www.yomiuri.co.jp
by Panserbjorne9 9/1/2011 10:56:03 PM

This makes me very angry. Are there alarms on them? A screen? Or is this data collected only going to some ministry hack who is only interested in collecting long term analysis data? Are these children guinea pigs??? Fukushima students back to school, with dosimeters www.yomiuri.co.jp
by Panserbjorne9 9/1/2011 10:58:08 PM

Virginia Nuclear Power Plant Didn’t Take The Earthquake Too Well www.gizmodo.com.au’t-take-the-earthquake-too-well/
by Panserbjorne9 9/1/2011 10:59:06 PM

@Panserbjorne9 guinea pigs - How much radiation is too much? goj -give us a few yrs and we will have that info - but if it looks bad on the nuke industry then of course we will withold it
by elainekirk 9/1/2011 11:03:52 PM

@Panserbjorne9 Dry-casks seem to hold about ten metric tons each, so I wonder what else got "shifted" by a jolt hard enough to shift 20,000 pounds 4-5 inches.
by RadioGuy 9/1/2011 11:07:56 PM

@RadioGuy
what do you think this doc has up to date readings including strontium and plutonium radioactivity.mext.go.jp
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Maybe I am missing something but I dont see it in the english version radioactivity.mext.go.jp
by elainekirk 9/1/2011 11:09:25 PM

these reading outside the zone look very very high radioactivity.mext.go.jp
by elainekirk 9/1/2011 11:21:31 PM

@elainekirk Station 46 looks like it's up by Namie town, which was right in the middle of the R3 explosion drift path, so I'm not surprised. Safecast and and the rogue radiation scientist whose name I can never remember both found the same thing.
by RadioGuy 9/1/2011 11:35:21 PM

@RadioGuy it is a bad situation and the gov only now asking for the tepco fuku logs from the 3/11 stinks of tepco calling all the shots
by elainekirk 9/1/2011 11:48:50 PM

@elainekirk , didn't you mention earlier that the government requested a reactor manual?
by Peter Melzer 9/1/2011 11:53:55 PM

@Peter Melzer yes I willl find you link
by elainekirk 9/1/2011 11:56:30 PM

@Peter Melzer On August 30, NISA requested TEPCO to submit the operation manual
at the time of an accident at Fukushima Dai-ichi NPS of TEPCO, which had
been requested to the Minister of Economy, Trade and Industry from the
Chairman of Special Committee on Science and Technology for Innovation
Advancements of the House of Representatives.
www.nisa.meti.go.jp
5months and 20days after the event!!!
by elainekirk 9/1/2011 11:57:30 PM

Interesting list of donations gods/money made to Japan e.g. -Sri Lanka gave 3 million tea bags- www.mofa.go.jp
by elainekirk 9/2/2011 12:04:59 AM

greetings.. back
by dean 9/2/2011 12:08:22 AM

I smell what this is about: After the earthquake caused the seismic scram of unit 1, a standby coolant system called isolation condensers was actuated. There are two units, A and B. Only one may have been functional (in tepcolese actuating a piece of equipment does not necessarily mean that it actually actuates, :). A bit after 15:00, a control room operator switched the working condenser off, because according to his manual's instructions the RPV was cooling down too fast which may crack it. The condenser could not be restarted when the operator tried after that. The rate of change in temp. depends on RPV age and must be periodically re-determined. Just last week the plant superintendent stated that he was not informed about the operator's action. I bet the government wants to check what the instruction in the tepco manual precisely says.
by Peter Melzer 9/2/2011 12:09:54 AM

@Peter Melzer
dear ministry
sorry but the book was washed away in the tsunami along with the dosimeters and anything else that could have provided evidence
yours sincerely
tepco
by elainekirk 9/2/2011 12:14:46 AM

@elainekirk , the manual probably does not say, ask your boss first before you shut a coolant system down after a scram.
by Peter Melzer 9/2/2011 12:17:57 AM

@Peter Melzer why are there not copies lodged with government etc ? to have just a copy on the premises seems lax procedure
by elainekirk 9/2/2011 12:21:11 AM

@elainekirk The Chairman of the Special Committee on Science and Technology for Innovation Advancements, of the House of Representatives, may be wanting to see the original - the copy that was actually at Daiichi and referred to at the time.
by es 9/2/2011 12:33:17 AM

@elainekirk , I don't know, but would assume so. Perhaps, they want to check whether they literally are on the same page.
by Peter Melzer 9/2/2011 12:33:19 AM

@Peter Melzer @es I would have hoped that every government that has npp plants would have a team who , in the event of an emergency situation, would go to the plant and collect all evidence, talk to employees and familiarise themselves with events as they unfold . It appears to the casual watcher that Tepco get ooccassional letters from gov asking for information by such and such a date, Tepco then either give some of the information , fob them off, give incorrect information 'in error', or merely tell them no
by elainekirk 9/2/2011 12:43:57 AM

The procedure here in any industry is to investigate events that have major impact / threaten life and limb... though of course whether that happens with nukes I dont know
by elainekirk 9/2/2011 12:46:02 AM

g'night all
by elainekirk 9/2/2011 12:53:29 AM

@elainekirk Yes, sadly it can appear that way to the casual watcher. As well as the lawyers swarming all over TEPCO's data and rendering it virtually unintelligible, there is a concerted effort going on to blame poor site management, and in general to discredit TEPCO rather than address the fundamental failings of all nuke plants.
by es 9/2/2011 1:02:52 AM

TEPCO real estate assessed over $14 billion [Dollars !]

A government panel has found that Tokyo Electric Power Company, the operator of the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, owns real estate worth more than 14 billion dollars in book value.

The committee is studying TEPCO's financial condition, including its real estate, stocks and other assets, to find sources of compensation for the nuclear accident.

The committee found TEPCO possesses real estate worth about 1.1 trillion yen, or 14.3 billion dollars, in book value, the price at the time of acquisition.

The assets include power plants and other facilities related to the electricity business, worth 9.1 billon dollars. Welfare facilities for TEPCO workers and buildings unrelated to power generation business totaled 5.2 billion dollars.

The committee says at market value, their value could expand significantly.

In its own report to the committee, TEPCO said it could only sell a small share of real estate unrelated to its main business, giving it a book value of 1.3 billion dollars.

The committee will investigate whether the utility has other salable assets. It plans to report its findings at the end of the month.

Friday, September 02, 2011 09:43 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 9/2/2011 1:48:04 AM

good information Edano, whatever needs done just needs done to compensate
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by Lurking 9/2/2011 1:57:59 AM

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by dean 9/2/2011 2:02:20 AM

back finally. :-)
by lillymunster 9/2/2011 2:41:49 AM

FACTBOX-Japan utilities' stress tests status af.reuters.com
by Mid Valley 9/2/2011 4:15:23 AM

back for a bit
by dean 9/2/2011 4:27:05 AM

hello. Not sure this is useful. List of 27 nuclear power reactors where gov't says earthquake damage is more likely finance.yahoo.com
by Cryptococcus 9/2/2011 4:35:35 AM

9 hrs ago news. Exclusive: Perry sought to sideline nuclear waste site critic. news.yahoo.com
by Cryptococcus 9/2/2011 4:56:45 AM

Quakes pose greater risk to US reactors. WASHINGTON (AP) - The risk that an earthquake would cause a severe accident at a U.S. nuclear plant is greater than previously thought, 24 times as high in one case, according to an AP analysis of preliminary government data. The nation's nuclear regulator believes a quarter of America's reactors may need modifications to make them safer.

The threat came into sharp focus last week, when shaking from the largest earthquake to hit Virginia in 117 years appeared to exceed what the North Anna nuclear power plant northwest of Richmond was built to sustain. m.apnews.com
by Cryptococcus 9/2/2011 5:03:42 AM

that article is about the NRC review saying 27 reactors may need upgrades.
by Cryptococcus 9/2/2011 5:05:13 AM

CLINICAL RADIATION: 145 children exposed to excessive radiation at Kofu hospital. KOFU--Nearly 150 children were exposed to excessive levels of radiation during examinations at Kofu Municipal Hospital during the past 12 years because a radiologist administered higher doses of radioactive materials than the recommended level.

A total of 145 children aged 15 or younger were given technetium in doses higher than levels recommended by the Japanese Society of Nuclear Medicine, the Japan Association of Radiological Technologists and other expert organizations.

About 40 children received technetium treatment at levels more than 10 times the recommended amount. Some children received more than one examination.

The level of whole-body lifetime internal radiation the children were exposed to is estimated to be about 30 millisieverts on average. The highest level was estimated at more than 150 millisieverts. www.asahi.com
by Cryptococcus 9/2/2011 5:16:25 AM

Convenient that this is just discovered. Someone to take the blame?
by Cryptococcus 9/2/2011 5:17:09 AM

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by Cryptococcus 9/2/2011 5:19:31 AM