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  • @Cryptococcus too suspicious the children story like you say.
    I imagine that now if your child develops cancer then previous medical treatment will be considered as a cause. the great Tepco machine will be happy with that get out of jail free card
    by elainekirk 9/2/2011 6:16:30 AM

  • lego on teppycam :)
    by Edano 9/2/2011 7:58:12 AM

  • hi @edano
    by elainekirk 9/2/2011 7:59:55 AM

  • @elainekirk mornin
    by Edano 9/2/2011 8:00:26 AM

  • @Edano suddenly it grows
    by elainekirk 9/2/2011 8:05:14 AM

  • the beginning is always the hardest part.
    by Edano 9/2/2011 8:08:51 AM

  • @Edano yes I imagine so
    by elainekirk 9/2/2011 8:15:29 AM

  • good morning elaine, Edano, nice shot of the crows pecking at things on tepco cam
    by dean 9/2/2011 8:57:31 AM

  • TEPCO confirms damage to part of No. 4 unit’s spent nuke fuel, Kyodo, April 13, 2011:

    Some of the spent nuclear fuel rods stored in the No. 4 reactor building of the crisis-hit Fukushima Daiichi power plant were confirmed to be damaged, but most of them are believed to be in sound condition, plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Wednesday.

    The firm known as TEPCO said its analysis of a 400-milliliter water sample taken Tuesday from the No. 4 unit’s spent nuclear fuel pool revealed the damage to some fuel rods in such a pool for the first time, as it detected higher-than-usual levels of radioactive iodine-131, cesium-134 and cesium-137.

    The No. 4 reactor, halted for a regular inspection before last month’s earthquake and tsunami disaster, had all of its fuel rods stored in the pool for the maintenance work and the fuel was feared to have sustained damage from overheating.

    The roof and the upper walls of the No. 4 reactor building have been blown away by a hydrogen explosion and damaged by fires since the disaster struck the plant. The water level in the spent fuel pool is believed to have temporarily dropped. … I WONDERED IF ANY ONE HAD SEEN THIS EARLIER
    by dean 9/2/2011 9:14:42 AM

  • @ hi all. Have you seen this documentary of Chernobyl? What happened under and after the accident. How life continued as before because people didn’t know the danger. And how it was downplayed. How they discussed how to solve the radiation problem. Wach the video and think of Japan. I made this video a separate Chernobyl page on my blog.
    www.youtube.com
    by Mona 9/2/2011 9:23:42 AM

  • @Mona @dean g'morning I have visitors so will look at them tonight
    by elainekirk 9/2/2011 9:24:51 AM

  • TY Mona
    by dean 9/2/2011 9:25:28 AM

  • @Elaine, Dean hi. For me this really is a must see. How they worked to try to solve this crisis. So much similar to Japan. Have they learned the lessons from Chernobyl? This video really make an impact on me.
    by Mona 9/2/2011 9:35:25 AM

  • @From the Chernobyl video: We see they dig a tunnel under the reactor to prevent the magma to seep down to the water below and create a nuclear explotion.Sounds familiar. 10 000 miners start many meters away because of radiation, dig a tunnel and under the reactor a room of 2x32 meters, to be filled with sement. Goal 12m a day. 50 degrees in the tunnel, protection impossible because of damp and dust. Autentic filming.
    www.youtube.com
    by Mona 9/2/2011 9:52:09 AM

  • @Mona can't wait to watch it
    by elainekirk 9/2/2011 10:09:09 AM

  • @Mona - thanks, that's a very impressive review of the timeline (still watching)

    'cos you noted your blog (that I don't know) you might like to hint to this report as well

    The Sacrifice (Switzerland 2003, 24min) - The unknown story of the cleanup workers in the aftermath of Chernobyl. (english with japanes 'subtitles')
    video.google.com
    by Vivre 9/2/2011 10:38:14 AM

  • @dean i remember the news about #4 sfp.
    by Edano 9/2/2011 10:40:55 AM

  • www.houseoffoust.com

    water level in #3 rpv rapidly dropping again after tepco tried to fill it up during the last week. wasn't there a problem with #3 spray and #4 sfp circulation ?

    by Edano via Houseoffoust 9/2/2011 10:43:34 AM

  • all temps stable, #1 < 95°, #2 between 95° and 120°, #3 between 110° and 125°
    by Edano 9/2/2011 10:46:32 AM

  • Swiss nuclear future could hinge on thorium : The Senate votes at the end of the month on the future of Swiss energy – but while the anti-nuclear camp thinks the nuclear option is dead, not everyone is so sure.
    A new generation of reactors could be fuelled by thorium, seen by its supporters as safer and producing less of a waste problem.
    The disaster at the Japanese nuclear plant at Fukushima earlier this year prompted heart-searching in Switzerland and the government announced in May that it planned to phase out all nuclear power generation in Switzerland by 2034.
    The House of Representatives has already agreed, but on Tuesday the Senate Energy Committee modified the proposal, agreeing instead simply to ban the construction of nuclear plants “of the current generation”. www.swissinfo.ch
    by Majj 9/2/2011 10:54:30 AM


  • Type: Earthquake
    4 minutes ago
    Magnitude: 7.1
    DateTime: Friday September 2 2011, 10:55:54 UTC
    Region: Fox Islands, Aleutian Islands, Alaska
    Depth: 39 km earthquake.usgs.gov
    by Majj 9/2/2011 11:01:57 AM

  • @Majj forget thorium reáctors - don't work.
    by Edano 9/2/2011 11:18:53 AM

  • english.kyodonews.jp
    Japan's new PM, first lady
    Photo taken on Nov. 9, 2003, shows Yoshihiko Noda (L) and his wife Hitomi (R) celebrating Noda's victory in a House of Representatives election in Funabashi, Chiba Prefecture. Noda launched his Cabinet on Sept. 2, 2011, succeeding Naoto Kan as Japan's prime minister. (Kyodo) english.kyodonews.jp

    by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 9/2/2011 11:21:18 AM

  • ooops, old foto. sorry...
    by Edano 9/2/2011 11:23:16 AM

  • today they look better.
    by Edano 9/2/2011 11:23:30 AM

  • certainly.
    by Edano 9/2/2011 11:23:37 AM

  • @Edano Germany had the only working thorium reactor and it didn't work so well. I see thorium and fast breeder reactors trotted out by the commercial nuclear industry as the next great hope. They don't bother to tell people the actual success rate of these technologies.
    by lillymunster 9/2/2011 11:24:22 AM

  • Dean, do you have a link for the Kyodo article? I want to add it to the group website.
    by lillymunster 9/2/2011 11:27:28 AM

  • www.faz.net

    @lillymunster they still try to find all the lost balls.

    by Edano via Faz.net 9/2/2011 11:27:40 AM

  • @lillymunster we had two of them (thorium reactors).
    by Edano 9/2/2011 11:29:07 AM

  • by Edano via Upload.wikimedia.org 9/2/2011 11:33:00 AM

  • @Edano lost balls? WTH actually happened with it?
    by lillymunster 9/2/2011 11:33:56 AM

  • @Edano In Brazil they start to open 20 years old boxes that containing the parts for Nuclear Reactor for Angra 3 . They arrive in Brazil 20 years ago.... I have pass by Bus on the plant and they are working day and night in the construction.... there is also talks of 2 more new plants in the north east of Brazil :-((((( www.costazulfm.com.br

    by Majj via Costazulfm.br 9/2/2011 11:34:31 AM

  • @lillymunster many of them broke and many vanished without documentation. they hope they are in some waste barrels, but it's not sure...
    by Edano 9/2/2011 11:36:41 AM

  • @Edano I heard about them breaking or cracking when they tried to run the reactor. I guess missing thorium is better than missing plutonium..
    by lillymunster 9/2/2011 11:38:16 AM

  • @lillymunster: the vanished balls problem came up this year. not long ago.
    by Edano 9/2/2011 11:39:46 AM

  • @lillymunster on the contrary: !!!!!

    "Ein wesentlicher Nachteil der Thoriumverwendung liegt darin, dass frische Brennelemente leicht abtrennbares waffenfähiges Material enthalten müssen, im Falle des THTR-300 auf 90 Prozent angereichertes Uran-235. Das steigende Bewusstsein für Proliferationsgefahren erzwang für die später entwickelten Kugelhaufenreaktorkonzepte die Abkehr vom Thorium und die Verwendung von niedrig angereichertem Uranbrennstoff."

    de.wikipedia.org

    A major disadvantage of using thorium is that fresh fuel must contain easily separable weapons-grade material, in the case of the THTR-300 on 90 percent enriched uranium-235. The growing awareness of proliferation threats forced later developed pebble bed reactor designs to move away from thorium and use low-enriched uranium fuel.
    by Edano 9/2/2011 11:42:47 AM

  • @Edano so it still uses large amounts of uranium?
    by lillymunster 9/2/2011 11:45:51 AM

  • @lillymunster yes, weapon grade uranium.
    by Edano 9/2/2011 11:46:52 AM

  • the advantage is that a meltdown is not possible (?), but temperatures are very high (2300°C) and in case of a containment break there would be a large contamination.
    by Edano 9/2/2011 11:52:10 AM

  • there was an accident in the reactor, probably on may 4, 1986 with release of radioactivity. the power company tried to cover it up because there were high rad readings anyway because of the chernobyl catastrophe. the reactor was not restarted again.
    by Edano 9/2/2011 11:56:55 AM

  • the shut down reactor still costs 6.5 mio € anually, tearing down will not be possible before 2027 and will cost 1 bio € and will last 20 years.
    by Edano 9/2/2011 12:00:06 PM

  • 7.1 in the Aleutians, tsunami possible.
    by bojack54 9/2/2011 12:01:49 PM

  • there is another small thorium reactor near peking.
    by Edano 9/2/2011 12:01:50 PM

  • @vivre TY I’ll put it on the blog as well.
    by Mona 9/2/2011 12:02:59 PM

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