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  • @dean That seems to be a big problem. Reading this TIME article talks about the run around and lame excuses the NRC gets when they find issues. The NRC should have the promotion of nuclear power mandate removed from their operating scope. That should be part of whatever entity focuses on generic power needs, maybe DOE or one of the economic development agencies.
    by lillymunster 9/2/2011 2:17:35 PM

  • @dean The private sector nuclear waste storage idea was floated by the same politicians that want no govt. regulation. The combination of for profit private nuclear storage and no oversight is a recipe for disaster. We have various small hazard cleanup sites around SD where private companies ignored EPA laws, went out of business and left really nasty messes to be cleaned up. I can't imagine the disaster if this kind of thing involved nuclear waste.
    by lillymunster 9/2/2011 2:19:32 PM

  • @lillymunster - can you check your email. thx
    by Mid Valley 9/2/2011 2:19:43 PM

  • @Mid Valley checked, fixed, email sent. :-)
    by lillymunster 9/2/2011 2:23:23 PM

  • @ lilly, the whole bottom line on nuclear is LIABILITY and the good ole gov't ends up with the tab and cleanup. Take TMI they decided, not the NRC, that they will leave TMI-2 in a state that it's in now until end of life of TMI-1 then they say they will decommission both, I say BOGUS. It will probably never happen or they will ask for GOV'T assistance or try to SELL the plants to some other company.. this is being approached with some big plants in the country now... SELL IT TO SOME INVESTORS AND LET THEM DEAL WITH IT..
    by dean 9/2/2011 2:23:34 PM

  • I will return I have to go to appointment... NICE NICE CHATTING
    by dean 9/2/2011 2:23:43 PM

  • @lilly - thanks!
    by Mid Valley 9/2/2011 2:29:25 PM

  • @dean selling an end of life nuclear plant? PT Barnam was right. :-)
    by lillymunster 9/2/2011 2:34:13 PM

  • by Cryptococcus 9/2/2011 3:36:22 PM

  • Fukushima fallout in Northwest German environmental media. Abstract

    Traces of short- and long-lived fallout isotopes ((131)I, (134)Cs and (137)Cs) were found in environmental samples collected in Northwest Germany (rain water, river sediment, soil, grass and cow milk) from March to May 2011, following the radioactivity releases after the nuclear accident in Fukushima, Japan. The measured concentrations are consistent with reported concentrations in air, amount of rainfall and expected values applying simple radioecological models. The [(134)Cs]/[(137)Cs] ratio reported for air (about 1) allows for discrimination between "recent" and "old"(137)Cs. Expected (136)Cs values fell below the detection limits of the instrumentation, despite large sample masses and long counting times. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
    by Cryptococcus 9/2/2011 3:40:24 PM

  • Traces of Fukushima fallout in the environment of Northwest Germany. (pdf poster available on the internet)
    by Cryptococcus 9/2/2011 3:40:55 PM

  • @Cryptococcus Very interesting in light of the EPA claiming everything is spiffy here.
    by lillymunster 9/2/2011 3:44:43 PM

  • Initial effect of the Fukushima accident on atmospheric electricity. Vertical atmospheric DC electric field at ground level, or potential gradient (PG), suddenly dropped by one order of magnitude at Kakioka, 150 km southwest from the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant (FNPP) right after the plant released a massive amount of radioactive material southward on 14 March, 2011. The PG stayed at this level for days with very small daily variations. Such a long-lasting near-steady low PG has never been observed at Kakioka. The sudden drop of PG with one-hour time scale is similar to those associated with rain-induced radioactive fallout after nuclear tests and the Chernobyl disaster. A comparison with the PG data with the radiation dose rate data at different places revealed that arrival of the radioactive dust by low-altitude wind caused the PG drop without rain. Furthermore, the PG might have reflected a minor release several hours before this release at the distance of 150 km. It is recommended that all nuclear power plant to have a network of PG observation surrounding the plant.

  • News and Views: Perspectives for Nuclear Energy in Brazil After Fukushima. More than two decades after the Chernobyl accident, the world was experiencing a nuclear renaissance when an earthquake followed by a tsunami, both of uncommon proportions, led to major releases of radiation at the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear central. Many countries are now reevaluating decisions to expand their nuclear parks, a change of course motivated by a number of considerations. Combined with the same premises, lessons learned from the history of its nuclear program compel Brazil to turn to the renewable sources of energy at its disposal. www.springerlink.com
    by Cryptococcus 9/2/2011 3:54:29 PM

  • @Cryptococcus do you know much about the DC electricity thing? It is a bit over my head but looks interesting and relevant.
    by lillymunster 9/2/2011 3:54:54 PM

  • @Cryptococcus I'm trying to understand the implications of the ele... ah... what lilly said.
    by RadioGuy 9/2/2011 3:55:17 PM

  • @lilly @RadioGuy nope ^^ Hoping one of you might know. Please let me know if you want more on a particular topic. I have to run now, but I'll see what I can find on AE (yes kinda strange)
    by Cryptococcus 9/2/2011 3:58:24 PM

  • It does seem to have use as an alarm monitor. I wonder if it could be a citizen-accessible technology that might be used in communities near nuke plants for their own safety?
    by RadioGuy 9/2/2011 3:59:37 PM

  • Anyway, interesting.
    by RadioGuy 9/2/2011 4:00:04 PM

  • Goodmorning everyone! whichever mod has access/control over the banning function, may i speak to you offline today? via twitter or fb? Thanks!
    by Panserbjorne9 9/2/2011 4:04:04 PM

  • ridiculous. Scaremongering about Fukushima radiation is damaging www.newscientist.com
    by Panserbjorne9 9/2/2011 4:06:54 PM

  • Short-term leaders in Japan leave disaster victims in limbo
    www.washingtontimes.com
    by Panserbjorne9 9/2/2011 4:07:35 PM

  • good map. Map: Fukushima no-entry zone www.washingtonpost.com
    by Panserbjorne9 9/2/2011 4:09:33 PM

  • Fukushima hotels face financial crisis as evacuees move into temporary housing
    mdn.mainichi.jp
    by Panserbjorne9 9/2/2011 4:15:22 PM

  • Gov't releases most detailed maps yet of radiation around Fukushima plant
    mdn.mainichi.jp
    by Panserbjorne9 9/2/2011 4:16:00 PM

  • 23 year old cat survives 2 months alone at home in the exclusion zone. www.facebook.com
    by lillymunster 9/2/2011 4:26:16 PM

  • back
    by dean 9/2/2011 4:44:53 PM

  • @lillymunster - just a small note to grab&remove ;)
    just tried and found that 'TBS Live Camera' link on SimplyInfo/sidepanel still is the outdated one.
    current link: www.youtube.com
    by Vivre 9/2/2011 4:45:46 PM

  • Tepco urges clarity on nuclear issues
    The president of Tokyo Electric Power Co. called on Japan’s new administration Thursday to establish clear safety standards that could open the way for Tepco and other power companies to restart their idled nuclear reactors.
    More: www.washingtonpost.com

    The headline: "Tepco urges clarity on nuclear issues" hahaha what a joke. I read on.
    Clear safety standards?? Since when are nuclear safety standards unclear? Yep it's a joke alright.
    by joniver 9/2/2011 4:48:55 PM

  • @Vivre thanks! will go update it
    by lillymunster 9/2/2011 4:49:54 PM

  • @joniver, they probably didn't have a safety standard that said.. DO NOT MELT REACTOR DOWN
    by dean 9/2/2011 4:51:34 PM

  • that way TEPCO says.. we didn't break any safety standards
    by dean 9/2/2011 4:52:05 PM

  • @dean LOL :-)
    by lillymunster 9/2/2011 4:56:30 PM

  • @dean So my weedwacker comes with more safety guidelines (in 5 different languages) than a nuclear reactor.
    by joniver 9/2/2011 4:58:21 PM

  • i1087.photobucket.com

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    Here are the maps from PDFs the article in mdn.mainichi.jp uses for its image. There are several more PDFs there of historical Rad Maps.

    by RadioGuy via I1087.photobucket 9/2/2011 4:59:14 PM

  • i1087.photobucket.com

    i1087.photobucket.com

    Here are the maps from PDFs the article in mdn.mainichi.jp uses for its image. There are several more PDFs there of historical Rad Maps.

    by RadioGuy via I1087.photobucket 9/2/2011 4:59:14 PM

  • Out for a bit
    by lillymunster 9/2/2011 5:00:04 PM

  • Knock Knock Knocking on the Devil's Door
    A new film makes the additional case I was looking for. "Knocking on the Devil's Door: Our Deadly Nuclear Legacy" by Gary Null could not come at a better time. Not far from where I write this, a nuclear plant at Lake Anna was damaged in a recent earthquake. Whether the damage was severe or not -- this time -- is unclear.
    The Fukushima disaster receives the attention it deserves in the film, with Harvey Wasserman arguing that President Obama is guilty of murder for having told the public not to worry about radiation coming to the United States from Fukushima.
    More: www.international.to
    by joniver 9/2/2011 5:01:10 PM

  • From the link below: "Sheehan said the report found that the plant’s control room operators failed to follow the right procedures as they began manipulating the control rods that block the nuclear reaction, to restart the reactor on May 10.

    This allowed the fuel rods, which contain enriched uranium, to boil water in the reactor, turning a turbine that generates electricity.

    But the plant went into emergency shutdown mode after the chain reaction in the nuclear core generated higher than expected power.

    Sheehan said it was unlikely that the findings would have an effect on whether the plant’s license is renewed next year".
    by joniver 9/2/2011 5:09:31 PM

  • Officials Admit North Anna Fuel Bunker Damaged By Quake As Feds Launch Reactor Core Damage Inspection
    The Feds have deployed an augmented inspection team to check the North Anna nuclear plant reactor core for damage as officials admit concealing the spent fuel bunker was damaged and shifted by the Virginia earthquake.
    As previously reported, the information about the events that occurred at the North Anna nuclear plant has continued to change culminating in a nuclear watch dog group raising the alarm a cover up of a tritium radiation leak may be underway at the plant.

    Officials quoted the plant owner as saying the plant was operating normally on backup generators. We then learned that one of the four generators at the plant failed within minutes of being activated.

    That was followed by assurances that no radiation was leaked from the plant even as the plant operator admitted the next day they were forced to vent steam from the reactor to prevent a Fukushima style “hydrogen” explosion at the reactor. While officials still asserted the plant was operating safely it begged the question of why the reactor needed to vent steam if the reactor was indeed being properly cooled.

    The operator then admitted that radiation had in fact been leaked from the plant, but downplayed the leakage by saying the amount was miniscule and was inline with normal operations, even though the plant was shut down and was not be ran under “normal operation” procedures.
    More: blog.alexanderhiggins.com
    by joniver 9/2/2011 5:18:12 PM

  • If North Anna NPP was forced to vent steam in order to prevent a hydrogen explosion does that mean the cladding on the fuel rods began to heat up?
    by joniver 9/2/2011 5:21:37 PM

  • well @ lilly.. that's about the way they act hah a
    by dean 9/2/2011 5:27:20 PM

  • lol joniver
    by dean 9/2/2011 5:30:37 PM

  • by elainekirk 9/2/2011 5:46:37 PM



  • Press Release (Sep 02,2011)
    Continuous collection of new scientific/technological knowledge on earthquake-proof safety of nuclear power plants and report of the results to the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency at the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry (Continued Report) www.tepco.co.jp
    by elainekirk 9/2/2011 5:54:34 PM

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