
@RadioGuy we have a hole in torus and rising torus radiation and possibly corium in torus. i would be surprised if there is no iodine emission anymore today.
by Edano 9/22/2011 11:50:04 AM

if you look on this for the 16th sept the level of 131 is <9.1E+03 before treatment and <5.6E+00 after treatment. Now to me that says it is present in the waste water I will look for more exact though
www.tepco.co.jpby elainekirk 9/22/2011 12:04:35 PM

here is no recent iodine detection (air/dust):
www.tepco.co.jpby Edano 9/22/2011 12:06:11 PM

@Peter seems like nothing worked :(
by Edano 9/22/2011 12:11:51 PM

@Peter what ? "The cause for the decline of the D/W pressure is not clear." ???
by Edano 9/22/2011 12:15:26 PM

@Peter they lied iaea in the face by saying that the cause of the pressure drop is not clear.
by Edano 9/22/2011 12:17:42 PM

@Edano what is the penalty for lying to the IAEA? A stern look? No invitation to the dessert buffet?
by lillymunster 9/22/2011 12:18:36 PM

@lillymunster i bet there is a second, not public report.
by Edano 9/22/2011 12:19:19 PM

@Peter what I have been reading it can pretty much burst from over pressure. It is the path of least resistance.
by lillymunster 9/22/2011 12:19:33 PM

@Edano internal to TEPCO?
by lillymunster 9/22/2011 12:19:42 PM

i mean another report to iaea, secret and without lies.
by Edano 9/22/2011 12:21:02 PM

@Edano kept on TEPCO's server so they didn't officially give it to the IAEA
by lillymunster 9/22/2011 12:23:31 PM

mmmm
by elainekirk 9/22/2011 12:23:49 PM

@RadioGuy that is how the NRC does it
by lillymunster 9/22/2011 12:26:47 PM

the last tepco days really confused me. too much contradicting information. i can't say anymore what is news and what not.
by Edano 9/22/2011 12:27:49 PM

it's time to hack tepco server. they hacked nearly every japanese company in the last weeks, why not tepco ?
by Edano 9/22/2011 12:29:31 PM

@Peter sudden rupture and failure?
by lillymunster 9/22/2011 12:33:29 PM

the pressure in torus was 750 kPa, seven atmospheres, all day long on march 15 until explosion. design limit is 500 kPa.
by Edano 9/22/2011 12:39:58 PM

the rupture disk should open on 427 kPa.
by Edano 9/22/2011 12:41:24 PM

so, why did the rupture disk fail, eh ? direct quake damage ?
by Edano 9/22/2011 12:44:50 PM

and is there only one rupture disk ?
by Edano 9/22/2011 12:45:36 PM

I would assume there would be a rupture disk in each vent pipe? It seems very odd that it would hold with almost double it's failure pressure.
by lillymunster 9/22/2011 12:47:20 PM

maybe they saved money and left the rupture disk away. it is so unlikely that they all (if there are more than one) fail.
by Edano 9/22/2011 12:50:13 PM

@Edano maybe corium burned through rather than the rupture disk. Only having one spot open up could cause a huge burst of pressure in one spot and could easily blow a hole in the torus or suppression chamber basement.
by lillymunster 9/22/2011 12:56:37 PM

@lillymunster didn't you say that the hole is in the top part of the torus ?
by Edano 9/22/2011 12:58:19 PM

@RadioGuy what were the temps in that area (minus corium)? Really high heat will cause the steel of the torus structures to be more prone to failure.
by lillymunster 9/22/2011 12:58:32 PM

@Edano I don't know if they stated a location?
by lillymunster 9/22/2011 12:58:49 PM