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by Edano via Houseoffoust 9/23/2011 9:18:49 AM

Fukushima evacuee makes anti-nuclear speech in NY

A farmer in Fukushima Prefecture has urged people around the world to get rid of nuclear power plants, saying there is no such thing as safe nuclear power.

53-year Sachiko Sato from Kawamata Town spoke at a gathering in central New York on Thursday. The event, organized by a US anti-nuclear group, was attended by about 70 people.

Sato was forced to evacuate from Fukushima to neighboring Yamagata Prefecture with her family after the accident in March at the Fukushima Daiichi plant.

Sato said the nuclear accident changed her life totally and that she wants people to know the hardship she has gone through after being forced to abandon her farmland.

Sato called on people all over the world to work together to get rid of nuclear plants, saying that when one thinks about the future of children what they have to do is clear.

Friday, September 23, 2011 09:30 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 9/23/2011 9:28:16 AM

@Edano good morning coffeee
by elainekirk 9/23/2011 9:36:36 AM

@elainekirk moin
by Edano 9/23/2011 9:37:08 AM

Hi@all, have you seen this Video? Dr. Busby explains what he is doing to help the children of Japan. www.youtube.com
by Liz 9/23/2011 9:56:42 AM

@Liz selling them radiation tablets is not helping it is proffiting from them in my opinion
by elainekirk 9/23/2011 9:57:40 AM

elainekirk, "help" was meant ironic.
by Liz 9/23/2011 10:11:02 AM

@Liz thank you @Liz I am just out of bed and still on my first coffee and you scared me rigid , I am awake now though !
by elainekirk 9/23/2011 10:17:05 AM

@Peter ty I think that post needs keeping I will mail it to @lilly if that ok with you?
by elainekirk 9/23/2011 10:47:08 AM

Morning all! (afternoon-evening)
by lillymunster 9/23/2011 10:48:33 AM

I have not figured the radioactive decay in. Well, then we are more in luck and it takes only 30 years. ;)
by Peter 9/23/2011 10:49:48 AM

@lillymunster morning just mailed you the post and you are here lol
by elainekirk 9/23/2011 10:49:53 AM

a friend sent me this debunking of the ever terrible bbc www.youtube.com
by elainekirk 9/23/2011 10:50:58 AM

@Peter It sounds like the idea is right that calcium can replace out stronium but the ability to do so with pills sounds dubious.
by lillymunster 9/23/2011 10:51:41 AM

@elainekirk that is the one Ian created. Was going to put that on the web page today. Some of the things that BBC
guy says are just jaw dropping
by lillymunster 9/23/2011 10:52:56 AM

@lillymunster, I think about the decay some more. But the problem with Busby's idea is that the turnover in bone is very low.
by Peter 9/23/2011 10:54:11 AM

@elainekirk I looked up the guy in the video yesterday. He is on a bunch of govt. sponsored groups related to nuclear physics and educating the public about science. I didn't find anything right away showing him on the payroll of any private nuke company but I don't know the subtle details of how things work in the UK. Govt PR hack job?
by lillymunster 9/23/2011 10:55:14 AM

The guy in the BBC video put this on his twitter. I'm not impressed. So anyone who thinks he is biased is a conspiracy theorist. :-(

Interested to see how many watch #Horizon tonight and think I'm in pay of nuclear industry. Impossible to convince conspiracy theorists.
by lillymunster 9/23/2011 10:58:26 AM

good morning - just sipping my second coffee

@Liz - nice vid recommendation - not to dig everywhere :-)
@Ian - I hope BBC can't turn your video down but rather that complete original one

new topic on fukushima-diary
Background: Impact of Radiation on Babies: fukushima-diary.com
by Vivre 9/23/2011 11:10:34 AM

@all - I pinned Peter's post about calcium and stronium so the narrative is kept. Adding the wiki to the library
by lillymunster 9/23/2011 11:12:19 AM

@Vivre They did some extensive work on that article on radiation & babies. The Yablokov study is somewhat controversial but the others I have not seen before and are from pretty well known journals. I want to get some more feedback from here on the information in their article before I do more with it. Good to see someone dug info on the subject. Most of what I have seen so far was just pictures.
by lillymunster 9/23/2011 11:16:52 AM

MIT paper on technical lessons of Fukushima and changes for Nuclear Industry mitnse.files.wordpress.com
by lillymunster 9/23/2011 11:23:19 AM

Unit 1 has hydrogen buildup. TEPCO doesn't exactly say how much ex-skf.blogspot.com
by lillymunster 9/23/2011 11:26:40 AM

More info says SFP at unit 4 caused explosion ex-skf.blogspot.com

TEPCO to start spreading low radioactive water around plant complex ex-skf.blogspot.com
by lillymunster 9/23/2011 11:28:26 AM

@lillymunster this gets more farcical by the hour
by elainekirk 9/23/2011 11:37:31 AM

lilly, we should add to this that taking the half-lives of cesium-137 and strontium-90 into account, which is roughly 30 years for both, would reduce the time we had to take the pills to 15 years.
by Peter 9/23/2011 11:44:14 AM

@Peter I am still at a loss on the magnesium in Busby's pills. Magnesium can prevent muscle spasms. I couldn't find anything that showed Magnesium had radioprotective qualities
by lillymunster 9/23/2011 11:49:54 AM

sub drain pit water levels from ist july to now www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 9/23/2011 12:06:03 PM

detection of hydrogen in pipe spraying system www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 9/23/2011 12:06:44 PM

ok catch you all later being hauled off to retail establishments
by elainekirk 9/23/2011 12:07:34 PM

@elainekirk have fun! I think I am glad Ikea is 4 hours away. :-)
by lillymunster 9/23/2011 12:10:16 PM

Good morning. Looks like I missed an interesting discussion on calcium as protective to radioactive cesium-137 and strontium-90. I'll read back.
by Cryptococcus 9/23/2011 12:34:43 PM

@lillymunster, I keep my eyes open for that.
by Peter 9/23/2011 12:40:59 PM

....and considering that the rate of calcium turnover might be greater in growing children than in adults, you would have to stuff your kids with even more pills.
by Peter edited by lillymunster 9/23/2011 12:54:15 PM

@lillymunster , uuuh, Ikea, the little things they have are so nice and cheap, bu then when the blue bag is full a wake-up call awaits you at the register. But the meatballs and the lingon berry sauce are so tasty. I am glad we are far away, too.
by Peter 9/23/2011 1:04:48 PM

@Peter I usually have a built in limiter since we usually take the Volkswagen to Minneapolis I can't buy furniture. :-)
by lillymunster 9/23/2011 1:09:54 PM

We should also qualify the term PROTECTION with calcium. In order to actually prevent uptake of cesium and/or strontium, you would need to begin taking the pills before incorporation, in analogy to the iodide pills. Truly RADIOPROTECTIVE agents, that is compounds that protect cells against the damage by ionizing radiation, would consist of scavengers for FREE RADICALS for example. I wonder whether Busby's pills contain anything that can serve that function.
by Peter 9/23/2011 1:14:11 PM

good morning to all
by dean 9/23/2011 1:14:23 PM

@ pancer.. that curve is called the fission fragment yield curve and as you saw in the example there are a host of fission fragments that are around the two predominant mass numbers of 95 and 137.....it's used extensively in nuclear physics
by dean 9/23/2011 1:18:11 PM

@dean Hi Dean!
by lillymunster 9/23/2011 1:28:56 PM

hi @ Lilly how goes the battle...
by dean 9/23/2011 1:36:27 PM

@lilly.. I called George last night and left a message to tell him he is thought about and missed
by dean 9/23/2011 1:37:14 PM

@dean mostly trying to balance coffee vs. lack of sleep. :-) Over half way through the corium document. Hope to finish it this afternoon.
Have not seen George for a while, hope things are good in his corner of the world.
by lillymunster 9/23/2011 1:43:02 PM

@dean vivre posted this earlier this morning. Have not had a chance to read the papers in the article but looks interesting. A bunch of papers on deformations post Chernobyl. fukushima-diary.com
by lillymunster 9/23/2011 1:44:04 PM