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Tokai mayor wants nuclear reactor decommissioned
The mayor of Tokai Village, north of Tokyo, has called on the government to decommission a nuclear reactor at a local power plant.
Tatsuya Murakami met the minister in charge of the nuclear crisis, Goshi Hosono, in Tokyo on Tuesday to discuss the Tokai Daini plant, located about 110 kilometers from Tokyo.
The plant of the Japan Atomic Power Company automatically shut down after the March 11th earthquake, and has since been undergoing regular inspections.
The mayor told Hosono that one million people live within 30 kilometers of the facility.
Murakami said the reactor is more than 30 years old, and that the public has lost confidence in the government's nuclear safety body. He said he cannot consent to a resumption of the plant's operations.
Hosono responded that he will consider the mayor's valuable suggestion.
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 19:13 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano 10/11/2011 1:28:10 PM- Big Ben becomes leaning tower of London
London's landmark clock tower, Big Ben, is leaning.
Britain's parliament says the spire of the 96-meter-high tower is now 43 centimeters out of line.
The parliamentary report says the tilt has accelerated since 2003, but experts are unsure of the cause.
The report says that years of underground developments, including the construction of a London Underground line, may have contributed to the tower's tilt.
Experts say if Big Ben continues to tilt at the current rate, it would take 10,000 years before it matches the Leaning Tower of Pisa.
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 08:56 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano 10/11/2011 1:30:43 PM 
english.kyodonews.jp
Edano in Saudi Arabia english.kyodonews.jp
Saudi Oil Minister Ali al-Nuaimi (front L) and Japanese Economy, Trade and Industry Minister Yukio Edano shake hands in Riyadh on Oct. 10, 2011. Edano agreed to boost bilateral cooperation with Saudi Arabia in a wide range of fields including renewable energy and energy saving. (Kyodo)by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 10/11/2011 1:34:37 PM
@Edano I am not going to ask why they needed a parliamentary report , I am just going to wander off to the diy store and think beautiful thoughtsby elainekirk 10/11/2011 1:34:58 PM
@ Edano.. FUKU is probably leaning more than the Pisa towerby dean 10/11/2011 1:35:17 PM- @dean pmsl see you later allby elainekirk 10/11/2011 1:36:02 PM
- be safe out there @ elaine..by dean 10/11/2011 1:36:22 PM
@dean I found a mention in the FOIA I am reading about a worker who did the vent attempt at unit 1. He got a 100 mSv dose for his run into the plant.by lillymunster 10/11/2011 1:38:21 PM- @lilly, I will bet that happened more than once and we don't know about it. There could have been several attempts to enter high rad areas for heroic effortsby dean 10/11/2011 1:40:40 PM
- @dean We know there was 2 attempts at 3 to vent and at least one in unit 2. No mention of those workersby lillymunster 10/11/2011 1:41:51 PM
- @ lilly I was reading one of the FOIA and mention the NRC published GI-199 Safety/Risk Assessment; a two-stage assessment of the
implications of USGS updated probabilistic seismic hazards. Seems to me it's all based on NRC data and USGS reduced spectrum events at NPP areas which resulted in larger operating marginsby dean 10/11/2011 1:43:59 PM - @lilly.. I wish we knew the whole story from the time of the EQ until the tsunami, the plants frantically trying to expedite cooldown, taking short cuts out of the procedures knowing all along the tsunami is heading their way... panic is what I think of and even in the nuclear power world desperate people try seeming impossible tasks during desperate situations and as soon as that happens they are in NO MANS LAND to know how the plant will respond to operator actionsby dean 10/11/2011 1:46:33 PM
- @dean I read something that they are reviewing that and might have changes to ask for by 2012?by lillymunster 10/11/2011 1:46:38 PM
- @lilly, yes, my recommendations to the senators from my state is to get independence from NRC performing the review, a separate group reporting to congress and not comprised of EPRI, INPO, NRC etc.. it's time for congress to act on certain issues concerning NPP operations, extenstions, deviations etcby dean 10/11/2011 1:48:38 PM
- @dean true. IIRC the rule of thumb is usually 20 minutes for a tsunami to roll in depending on where it started, or that was the guess on this one from meterologists. There had to be some major panic. They already had reactors showing issues, damage and AC loss plus they knew the tsunami was coming.by lillymunster 10/11/2011 1:48:45 PM
- Safety/Risk Assessment for GI-1 99 was completed in August 2010. It is publically available in
ADAMS at ML100270582. That assessment found that plants have adequate safety margin for
seismic issues and are within their licensing basis.... THIS statement I don't likeby dean 10/11/2011 1:49:27 PM - @dean I read something again in the FOIA that 90% of NRC's funding comes from licensing fees. This puts the NRC in a conflict of interest. Their budget comes out of the industry and depends on new plants or renewing old ones. I think this could contribute to the rubber stamp renewals they are doing. Having operators help fund the NRC makes sense but it needs to be done in a different fashion. There are also some calls for an independent review of the NRC's actions post fuku and other aspects of the changes being considered. I really think they need a congressional review after some of the things I have seen out of the NRC in recent weeks.by lillymunster 10/11/2011 1:51:21 PM
- @lilly .. I'm writing up some inputs for the representatives todayby dean 10/11/2011 1:52:41 PM
@lillymunster , I saw that. Sounds like the Patent Office. Even if it were not the case, imagine if the US decided to quit the commercial nuke business, there would be less work and fewer jobs for them.by Peter 10/11/2011 1:56:04 PM- I see no consistency on the whole seismic issue at NPP's in the USA, different plants perform different analyses using different methods, all of which gives data, some of which indicates the risks have increased but then the utility finds a work around .... thus there is too much subjectivity and reluctance to use common analyses methods for plant specific conditions and then implement changeby dean 10/11/2011 1:56:55 PM
- @lilly agree with that observationby dean 10/11/2011 1:57:18 PM
- be back after breakfastby dean 10/11/2011 1:59:41 PM
- as to the tsunami.. i doubt you can build an effective protective wall for a coastal plant. you may be able to prevent a direct hit, but the water will find its way all around the wall from behind and down from the soil as well.by Edano 10/11/2011 2:08:29 PM
- the only chance would be to move the plants to higher ground.by Edano 10/11/2011 2:09:37 PM
- @Edano I think the only way to protect a plant is to have it up very high. Your still going to get damage and some flooding due to the water intakes.by lillymunster 10/11/2011 2:09:40 PM
- i would take that into account when it comes to the question what plants should be decommissioned first.by Edano 10/11/2011 2:11:20 PM
- i think hamaoka is one of those plants that you cannot protect.by Edano 10/11/2011 2:12:12 PM
- onagawa, tokai, fuku daini ....by Edano 10/11/2011 2:13:02 PM
by Edano via Upload.wikimedia.org 10/11/2011 2:18:54 PM- @Edano all but a few plants are on the coasts.by lillymunster 10/11/2011 2:19:02 PM
www.industcards.com higashidori
by Edano via Industcards 10/11/2011 2:19:18 PM
upload.wikimedia.org Kashiwazaki-Kariwa
by Edano via Upload.wikimedia.org 10/11/2011 2:20:07 PM
upload.wikimedia.org monju seems a bit uphill
by Edano via Upload.wikimedia.org 10/11/2011 2:21:57 PM
upload.wikimedia.org Mihama
by Edano via Upload.wikimedia.org 10/11/2011 2:22:55 PM- by Edano via Upload.wikimedia.org 10/11/2011 2:23:44 PM
upload.wikimedia.org Shimane
by Edano via Upload.wikimedia.org 10/11/2011 2:24:59 PM- Hard to tell on some of them. Higashidori and Kashiwazaki are really close to sea level.by lillymunster 10/11/2011 2:25:34 PM
upload.wikimedia.org Sendai
by Edano via Upload.wikimedia.org 10/11/2011 2:25:52 PM
upload.wikimedia.org Ikata
by Edano via Upload.wikimedia.org 10/11/2011 2:26:47 PM
"In Godzilla vs. Destoroyah Godzilla approaches the Ikata nuclear plant" en.wikipedia.org
by Edano via Upload.wikimedia.org 10/11/2011 2:28:54 PM- by Edano via Nuclearpowerdaily 10/11/2011 2:32:49 PM
upload.wikimedia.org Tomari
by Edano via Upload.wikimedia.org 10/11/2011 2:33:56 PM
@lilly @Peter
please do not forget that scribd.com is a no-freedom members only tool. It might be nice to present documents but it makes free documents unavailable for everybody (except one may copy&paste it out from that presentation).
So I would like to bit you to always add the links to the original free sources on SimplyInfo as well.
TEPCO Documents - TEPCO reports to the IAEA
the "June Report" is available here: fukushima.grs.de
the whole Sebtember-Update-pdf: www.meti.go.jp
(or in parts on: www.meti.go.jp)
thanksby Vivre 10/11/2011 2:44:31 PM
U.K. Atomic Review Sees No Reason to Cut Back Post-Fukushima
news.businessweek.comby Panserbjorne9 10/11/2011 2:44:49 PM- Residents near Fukushima mountains face nuclear recontamination every rainfall
mdn.mainichi.jpby Panserbjorne9 10/11/2011 2:45:20 PM
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