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  • @lillymunster do you still watch the worker tweets rh suggests that it is getting old now and they are wearying
    by elainekirk 10/11/2011 12:59:23 AM

  • @elainekirk the workers or rockhopper?
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 1:16:50 AM

  • We are at 7 months. It is Oct 11th in Japan.
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 1:21:08 AM

  • New paper by Busby et al. : www.conflictandhealth.com
    by Ian 10/11/2011 1:46:12 AM

  • @lillymunster workers
    by elainekirk 10/11/2011 1:58:22 AM

  • @elainekirk did she elaborate? Physical burn out? Stress? Mental burn out? Sick of the stupid games at work?
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 2:03:25 AM

  • @lillymunster quote -We need to think about workers' situation. Fksm is getting colder, and situation seems to be getting worse.
    by elainekirk 10/11/2011 2:04:01 AM

  • @elainekirk sort of all of the above between work issues and the challenges? They are probably hitting fall already. I mentioned earlier that the weather change is going to cause problems. Going in and out of buildings hot-cold-hot wears on your system, add that to the stress load.
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 2:07:32 AM

  • I wonder if we can get enough details if we could get some attention. It worked before if enough internet and media pick it up.
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 2:08:32 AM

  • @lillymunster it is going to be bad lilly because there are so many pipes and it only takes a frost they may not be in use but they are connected and they will leave radiation hot spots dripping venting
    by elainekirk 10/11/2011 2:09:44 AM

  • @you they havent the insulation they had last winter they are idling prime for freezing and popping
    by elainekirk 10/11/2011 2:10:59 AM

  • @elainekirk they could heat up the plants again....
    by Edano 10/11/2011 2:11:52 AM

  • @elainekirk so how do they heat all parts of the reactor building during normal operation? Does the residual heat of operation do it or do they have HVAC?
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 2:12:16 AM

  • @Edano Hey stop watering, it is getting to cold in #2!
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 2:12:38 AM

  • and they have the whirlpools on the upper decks....
    by Edano 10/11/2011 2:13:55 AM

  • @Edano all the feed hoses and pipes laying on the ground outside unless they are pulling hot water out of the reactor those pipes run the risk of freezing. Any spilled water outside means ice.
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 2:14:56 AM

  • I could see parts of the filtration systems icing up
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 2:15:59 AM

  • those shrouds even it they got 3's on arent going to insulate very well
    by elainekirk 10/11/2011 2:24:02 AM

  • must sleep g'night all
    by elainekirk 10/11/2011 2:25:47 AM

  • @elainekirk Lets do some logical thinking here. They've got boiling water (around 100ÂșC) that they need to get cooler and you're worrying about pipes freezing? And now you're doubting that the shrouds are not good enough. Do you have evidence to support those theories?
    by Pedro Jesus 10/11/2011 2:26:20 AM

  • @elainekirk They will keep a bit of heat in by not allowing wind blowing across them. But many of the break areas are just tents that are sealed up. Those could be an issue unless they put some minor heating in them
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 2:26:53 AM

  • @lillymunster, a site worth a link to : independentwho.info
    by Ian 10/11/2011 3:50:53 AM

  • Former head of the Department for Radiation and Health of WHO : www.ippnw-students.org
    by Ian 10/11/2011 3:51:59 AM

  • Hi @all, www.emsc-csem.org 2011-10-11 03:26:09.01hr 30min ago 36.63 N 143.45 E 10 5.1 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
    by Liz 10/11/2011 4:58:21 AM

  • NYT SPECIAL REPORT: ENERGY
    The Year of Peril and Promise in Energy Production www.nytimes.com
    by Mid Valley 10/11/2011 5:14:35 AM

  • morning.........I think............................coffeee
    by elainekirk 10/11/2011 8:49:28 AM

  • A PET scan turns *you* into a nuclear disaster scene. They should warn patients not to handle children for a few days post scan. Imagine this grandma holding a baby for some time, not good!

    by Ian 10/11/2011 10:24:33 AM

  • www.tepco.co.jp
    Dust sampler in the opening of #1 www.tepco.co.jp how convenient I think if they checked air flow patterns they would find that didnt give a true reading....mmmm they probably did check air flow patterns

    by elainekirk via Tepco.co.jp 10/11/2011 10:46:55 AM

  • www.guardian.co.uk Guardian - UK Government report on UK nuclear Industry's future. Report focuses on Fukushima giving many details.
    by alphaspheric 10/11/2011 11:50:42 AM

  • Morning! (afternoon-evening)
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 11:51:39 AM

  • Good morning, @lillymunster, I managed to upload the nine chapters of the update on scribd. Sep., 2011, update of the report of the Government of Japan to the International Atomic Energy Agency on the reactor accidents at Fukushima I Nuclear Power Station in the wake of the Tohoku earthquake and tsunami on Mar. 11, 2011.

    Chapter 1: www.scribd.com

    Chapter 2: www.scribd.com

    Chapter 3: www.scribd.com

    Chapter 4: www.scribd.com

    Chapter 5: www.scribd.com

    Chapter 6: www.scribd.com

    Chapter 7: www.scribd.com

    Chapter 8: www.scribd.com

    Chapter 9: www.scribd.com
    by Peter 10/11/2011 11:57:46 AM

  • @Peter wow
    by elainekirk 10/11/2011 11:59:07 AM

  • @alphaspheric that report sounds trash
    by elainekirk 10/11/2011 11:59:42 AM

  • @lillymunster greetings
    by elainekirk 10/11/2011 11:59:56 AM

  • @Peter I grabbed the other scribd link from previous days. Will grab these instead and add them into the library. I still have the strahlentelex docs to add, they are on my list for today
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 12:03:39 PM

  • @lillymunster , the nine chapters comprise only the update in September. The other link I posted earlier is to the first NISA report in June. They do not reiterate the June findings in the update, unless the info changed, but refer to them. You must keep the first link as well for completeness.
    by Peter 10/11/2011 12:08:18 PM

  • @Peter Ok. I have the original TEPCO links on the library page. I added the new scribd ones - will label them as sept. updates. Then add the scribd link from the other day as June all chapters. Let me know if that is not correct.
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 12:16:14 PM

  • @Peter I found some venting diagrams in this FOIA pdf at about page 76 or 80 it is the last pdf file on the FOIA list page ML11269A176
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 12:32:54 PM

  • @lillymunster , sounds like a good plan. We were looking for the update chapters the other day and I had lost the links. Hence the scribd project. Can't hurt in any case. I check the diagrams out. Thanks.
    by Peter 10/11/2011 12:41:42 PM

  • Chapter II has got more than 400 pages and takes some time to load. There is plenty data in it. As to seismics, Japan collected a wealth of data. Only that the PRAs did not pan out. I smell that this has got to do with the fact actual quakes tend to shake the installations more than expected in parts of the spectrum. These excesses seem difficult to model. Same happened at North Anna.
    by Peter 10/11/2011 12:48:47 PM

  • @Peter king of the day.
    by Edano 10/11/2011 1:14:01 PM

  • www3.nhk.or.jp

    Radiation checking facility opens

    A facility that allows consumers to check radiation levels of food and other items has opened near Tokyo.

    On Tuesday, about 20 people including housewives brought rice, water and vegetables to the facility in Kashiwa City. The facility was started by a computer software firm owner.

    Kashiwa is about 200 kilometers from the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. Radiation levels higher than those in surrounding areas have been detected in the air in the city.

    The customers received explanations from staff members while using radiation counters. Results were shown in about 20 minutes.
    A woman in her 40s said she checked rice because she's worried about her child, and that she was relieved because no radioactive substances were detected.

    The facility charges about 13 dollars per use of a counter that can detect more than 20 becquerels per kilogram, and about 50 dollars per measurement to an accuracy of over 10 becquerels. The prices are lower than those of other test facilities.

    The owner plans to increase the number of counters from the current 6 to 8.

    Tuesday, October 11, 2011 20:52 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp

    by Edano via Www3.nhk.or.jp 10/11/2011 1:22:14 PM

  • Daycare center near Fukushima plant reopens

    A daycare center some 20 kilometers from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has reopened for the first time since the accident there in March.

    18 children aged 2 months to 5 years arrived with their parents at the center in Minami Soma City, Fukushima Prefecture, on Tuesday.

    The facility decided to reopen when the Japanese government lifted its evacuation advisory for the city on September 30th.

    Before reopening, the center reportedly took decontamination measures such as removing topsoil from its playground.

    The head of the center said parents are understandably worried about the effects of radiation, so he wants to continue efforts to ensure the children's safety.

    Tuesday, October 11, 2011 16:37 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 10/11/2011 1:24:22 PM

  • greetings to all
    by dean 10/11/2011 1:24:41 PM

  • Govt reviews nuclear power generation costs

    Japan's Atomic Energy Commission is creating a new estimate of the cost of nuclear power as part of a review of the country's nuclear policy.

    For the first time, it will take into account the cost of compensation for possible nuclear accidents.

    The review of Japan's policy on nuclear power use, research and development had been suspended after the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant in March. It resumed last month.

    A subcommittee tasked with calculating the cost of nuclear power was set up by the commission on Tuesday.

    Acting commission head Tatsujiro Suzuki said it will be the first cost assessment since the Fukushima accident, and will gain attention both at home and abroad.
    He said he hopes to conduct an objective estimate in which the data as well as premises and procedures of the calculation are transparent.

    The subcommittee will calculate the cost of recycling spent nuclear fuel by extracting plutonium, a main pillar of the current nuclear policy. It will estimate the cost of discarding it as waste as well.

    It will also debate how far to include the costs of compensation, decontamination and reactor decommissioning after nuclear accidents.

    While the commission plans to release its overall cost estimates by March, projections for the costs of accidents will be submitted to a government panel now reviewing Japan's energy policy before the end of this month.

    Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:55 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 10/11/2011 1:25:18 PM

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