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  • Union of Concerned Scientists urge people to send a "recipe" to Pres. Obama on how to fix nuclear power (form to send) www.ucsusa.org

    UCS list of suggested changes to US reactors post Fuku
    www.ucsusa.org
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 3:21:04 PM

  • @Vivre ?? you don't need a membership to view anything on scribd?
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 3:22:25 PM

  • @lilly - viewing is possible (if your browser shows it) BUT those free documents are not shared with everybody and only allowed to be downloaded after signing membership.
    To me this is a clear violation of the original documents freedom - at least they should apply the original source-link.
    Never mind I'm old fashion and wouldn't dare to missuse free information to compel people to join my busyness. It's like selling freeware.
    by Vivre 10/11/2011 4:38:57 PM

  • @lilly - addendum: all I had in mind was that it would be more honest for SimplyInfo not to support these mechanism but share the documents-source-adresses barrierfree, liked you youself take the advantage from and be able to enhance your information status.
    by Vivre 10/11/2011 4:58:53 PM

  • @Vivre Please discuss this with Peter, he is the "author" of the docs.
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 4:59:57 PM

  • @lilly - ok - dialog stopped - but you asked me
    by Vivre 10/11/2011 5:01:34 PM

  • @lillymunster @Vivre downloading and sharing is not possible. why don't we have the original pdfs on the server ? is there a technical problem ?
    by Edano 10/11/2011 5:07:38 PM

  • Here from Q&A of Scribd support.scribd.com : "...you must be logged in to your Scribd account before you can download content from the site; if you're not logged in, you'll be prompted to do so before your download begins." Did not know that either. You can sign in with Facebook or open a free account.
    by Peter 10/11/2011 5:11:53 PM

  • @Edano Peter found copies of these other versions and put them on scribd. Don't slay the messenger. I just work here :-0
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 5:13:38 PM

  • us.123rf.com @lillymunster all your fault !

    by Edano via Us.123rf 10/11/2011 5:18:51 PM

  • @Edano - I don't know but it brings two disadvantages:
    - more effort/work/time in maintenance
    - unwanted extra traffic

    I think sharing the bibliography (indication of source) could be enough.
    (And scripd.com might be regarded as kind of save-repository - in case they themselves don't simply redirect to the originals in the background)
    by Vivre 10/11/2011 5:23:04 PM

  • what about these ?

    chapter 1 www.meti.go.jp
    chapter 2 www.meti.go.jp
    chapter 3 www.meti.go.jp
    chapter 4 www.meti.go.jp
    chapter 5 www.meti.go.jp
    chapter 6 www.meti.go.jp
    chapter 7 www.meti.go.jp
    chapter 8 www.meti.go.jp
    chapter 9 www.meti.go.jp
    by Edano 10/11/2011 5:23:37 PM

  • and this is a summary: www.meti.go.jp ("Chapter 0")
    by Edano 10/11/2011 5:29:48 PM

  • the report has vanished from iaea website .... www.iaea.org
    www.google.de
    by Edano 10/11/2011 5:30:43 PM

  • @Edano - they (and the other parts) are listed on www.meti.go.jp

    btw: another important point: starting with chapter 1 misses to show the Name/date/author.. of that document. It's also not mentioned on SimplyInfo so it is very hard to find out how to get hold of it.
    by Vivre 10/11/2011 5:32:15 PM

  • @Vivre i wouldn't trust anyone on the net, as the wikileaks story tells.
    by Edano 10/11/2011 5:32:22 PM

  • @Vivre yes, i noticed that, too. it is rare.
    by Edano 10/11/2011 5:37:20 PM

  • @Edano - new links on the 'updated' site: www.iaea.org
    june-pdf: www.iaea.org
    by Vivre 10/11/2011 5:39:29 PM

  • @Edano , Vivre, I only put this in motion because when asked at the time I did not have the meti links. I had downloaded copies, did not keep the links, and then uploaded copies to scribd. Elaine found the links except chapter 0.
    by Peter 10/11/2011 5:39:58 PM

  • If someone can list agreed upon original links and what they are I can grab, download and store copies on the server and link to the library. Let me know, I would need to do it tonight though.
    by lillymunster 10/11/2011 5:44:44 PM

  • @lillymunster all these: www.meti.go.jp
    by Edano 10/11/2011 5:49:33 PM

  • @Edano - so true - I wish I could download the internet :lol:

    @lilly - it might be enough to save the two complete documents, in case of longterm importance and provide links to the originals on the hp?
    by Vivre 10/11/2011 5:50:54 PM

  • So this is the IAEA link to the complete September Update that Vivre provided, which links to the complete document: www.iaea.org . Do we also have an IAEA link to the complete June Report?
    by Peter 10/11/2011 6:01:37 PM

  • @Peter - still searching but I already found the page where all document-parts are available: www.iaea.org
    by Vivre 10/11/2011 6:13:00 PM

  • @lilly, then I'd use the official IAEA links. For the June Report: www.iaea.org and for the September Update this one: www.iaea.org .
    by Peter 10/11/2011 6:38:13 PM

  • Hi@all,
    (Nanowerk News) Important pressurized water nuclear reactor components are being made from a nickel-base alloy that contains twice the amount of chromium as the material previously used. The new alloy, called alloy 690, performs better, with no cracking due to corrosion in the high-temperature water service environment. However, stress corrosion cracking has been observed in lab tests on highly deformed alloy 690 material. To gain insights into this behavior, researchers at Pacific Northwest National Laboratory performed high-resolution investigations of corrosion and cracking processes. Surprisingly, they found veins of localized oxidation wormed their way into the alloy 690 instead of forming the expected, chromium-rich protective oxide layer on the surface. Even higher resolution images of corroded alloy 690 revealed the unique three-dimensional structure in the veins of oxidation. The filamentary veins were only about 5 nanometers in diameter, but penetrate to depths more than 400 nanometers below the surface. These veins contained a line of chromium oxide platelets surrounded by mixed nickel-chromium-iron oxide nanocrystals.
    www.nanowerk.com
    by Liz 10/11/2011 7:54:21 PM

  • back
    by dean 10/11/2011 9:31:19 PM

  • hi @ liz
    by dean 10/11/2011 9:37:34 PM

  • by Majj 10/11/2011 9:43:28 PM

  • Alex Jones reposted this explanation on the "acute lukemia" worker. Based on

    * must measure over 5msv to be work related
    * no internal exposure measured
    * incubation period is at least one year (but he gets sick and dies in one day???)

    Is there anything but radiation that could kill you after you get sick in one day??? Tepco is going by the book, but this whole disaster scenario is "not in the book"

    This info should be added to the simplyinfo article.
    www.prisonplanet.com
    by artnuke 10/11/2011 9:45:27 PM

  • This is an eye opener on mr. acute lukemia, the author is not afraid to theorize there is a cover up and collusion between TEPCO and doctors it hires to come up with non-work-related diagnosis for death. You'd think the Japanese government, if it wasn't in cahoots with TEPCO would use all the health resources of Japan to figure why a perfectly healthy man would get sick and die in one day after working for one week, but instead they rubber stamp it. If it's radiation, either the counters are worthless or .5msv will kill some people.
    he was working at the plant for one week. He died on 8/16,so probably
    he started working on 8/8 or 8/9.
    They checked he did not have internal exposure.

    He was working at a back room. His job was to open and close the door for other workers come in and go out from the room.

    For the question of an NHK reporter ,”Why did it take a half month to
    disclose the fact?”

    They answered they were arranging for the privacy.

    They emphasized that it has nothing to do with his work at the plant.

    - Why now ?

    The NHK reporter had a point. Why did they take 2 weeks to announce
    the accident.Their saying “They were taking care of the privacy” does
    not make any sense.

    One day before,8/29,a journalist asked them about a Fukushima worker
    who had his bone broken.They did not disclose the accident until the
    journalist questioned. They emphasized it is not connected to his work
    at the plant. so they have no reason to announce his death.and there
    was no reason to keep it secret for two weeks.It only makes people
    even more suspicious for people.

    However,the worker is told to have been exposed to “only” 0.5 mSv in
    total. If that is true,it proves low level of radiation may cause you
    acute symptoms

    Tepco did not conduct any check directly for the dead man. It’s only
    the doctor who checked his body. Therefore the only source is the
    anonymous doctor.

    NHK reporter asked Tepco,why don’t you ask the doctor for more
    details. They answered,because it’s the diagnose of the doctor.

    They do not make any sense again.

    He had his blood tested but they detected no problem.Thus it can not
    be normal leukemia.

    He had the symptom in one week and died.This is what the doctor
    stated.

    However,doctors are often hired by Tepco around the nuc plant area.

    Environment journalist Higuchi Kenji comments,it’s their custom to
    take sick workers to the “hired” doctors like in Futaba sogo
    hospital,and have the doctors diagnose it’s not related to radiation.
    Sometimes they diagnose it to be food poison and sick worker dies of
    leukemia
    by artnuke 10/11/2011 9:45:36 PM

  • link for the acute lukemia cover up theory: fukushima-diary.com
    by artnuke 10/11/2011 9:45:40 PM

  • majiasblog.blogspot.com another report of "acute lukemia" by a volunteer rescuing animals in the no-go zone. Same doctor?? A lot of people dropping dead in a very short visit for no apparent reason.
    by artnuke 10/11/2011 9:45:45 PM

  • en.wikipedia.org is this the same as the acute lukemia being diagnosed?
    by artnuke 10/11/2011 9:45:47 PM

  • en.wikipedia.org
    Is this close enough for Tepco's doctors to diagnose radiation sickness as acute lukemia?
    Wikipedia
    Most signs and symptoms of AML are caused by the replacement of normal
    blood cells with leukemic cells. A lack of normal white blood cell
    production makes the patient susceptible to infections; while the
    leukemic cells themselves are derived from white blood cell
    precursors, they have no infection-fighting capacity.[5] A drop in red
    blood cell count (anemia) can cause fatigue, paleness, and shortness
    of breath. A lack of platelets can lead to easy bruising or bleeding
    with minor trauma. The early signs of AML are often vague and
    non-specific, and may be similar to those of influenza or other common
    illnesses. Some generalized symptoms include fever, fatigue, weight
    loss or loss of appetite, shortness of breath, anemia, easy bruising
    or bleeding, petechiae (flat, pin-head sized spots under the skin
    caused by bleeding), bone and joint pain, and persistent or frequent
    infections.[5]
    <p>
    The first clue to a diagnosis of AML is typically an abnormal result
    on a complete blood count. While an excess of abnormal white blood
    cells (leukocytosis) is a common finding, and leukemic blasts are
    sometimes seen, AML can also present with isolated decreases in
    platelets, red blood cells, or even with a low white blood cell count
    (leukopenia).[20] While a presumptive diagnosis of AML can be made via
    examination of the peripheral blood smear when there are circulating
    leukemic blasts, a definitive diagnosis usually requires an adequate
    bone marrow aspiration and biopsy. <P>
    by artnuke 10/11/2011 9:45:49 PM

  • i think both, the worker and the animal rescuer, died of acute radiation syndrome. there are enough hot spots around the site to induce acute radiation.
    by Edano 10/11/2011 9:52:20 PM

  • there are really holes in the tent.
    by Edano 10/11/2011 9:53:33 PM

  • dang it what does it take to get Tepco and Japanese govt out of the "do it by the book" syndrome? This whole disaster is "not even in the book" and they have to think beyond the minimum number of checkmarks to meet bureaucratic standards. Can't the US and NRC ask to have US doctors go over there and do a 2nd opinion on the bodies, CSi style? The whole trick is to think out of the box, and these bureaucrats are stuck in the box. Isn't it impossible to show no symptoms of lukemia, get sick and die the next day??? Isn't that exactly what happens if you walk by a 1-2Sv/hr radiation source???
    by artnuke 10/11/2011 10:00:37 PM

  • have any animals died of "acute lukemia"??? Seems there must be enough hot spots to have killed something out there if it hit people at the plant.
    by artnuke 10/11/2011 10:00:40 PM

  • @Edano ooo going to look
    by elainekirk 10/11/2011 10:01:41 PM

  • @Edano is that steam coming out just below top left side
    by elainekirk 10/11/2011 10:07:46 PM

  • @elainekirk no.
    by Edano 10/11/2011 10:08:37 PM

  • @Edano.. maybe hydrogen vents?
    by dean 10/11/2011 10:09:32 PM

  • @elainekirk the holes seem to move, so they might not be holes :) reflections ?
    by Edano 10/11/2011 10:10:04 PM

  • @dean you can't see hydrogen.
    by Edano 10/11/2011 10:10:54 PM

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